"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[BallPtPenTheif]

Well, I tried Race A out and it was pretty fun. I did a round with the R33. Didn’t get very high on the grid, but it was amusing watching people lose control and go into the sand. Lots of people don’t seem to know how to drive road cars.

I don't think that people are realizing that their assists are off.

I feel like I'm driving a car made out of Jell-O with the steering assist off and that's me compensating for the twitchy handling. I can't imagine if I didn't realize that the assists were off.

 

[Satomiblood]

I don't think that people are realizing that their assists are off.

I feel like I'm driving a car made out of Jell-O with the steering assist off and that's me compensating for the twitchy handling. I can't imagine if I didn't realize that the assists were off.

I’ve been driving without assists for certain cars for a while. The R33 is pretty safe. I’m not sure that I would’ve fared so well with the RX-7 or NSX. I’d need the TCS at 2 if running a stock setup for either of those cars. I can drive them comfortably when they’re tuned, though.

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

I’ve been driving without assists for certain cars for a while. The R33 is pretty safe. I’m not sure if I would’ve fared so well with the RX-7 or NSX. I’d need the TCS at 2 if running a stock setup for either of those cars. I can drive them comfortably when they’re tuned, though.

Where I notice it the most is on how unpredictable the cars become during a Scandinavian whip. It can fly out of the whip with understeer, oversteer, or bite you with some whip back... totally depending on whether or not my thumb decided to have a weird twitch during the counter steering.

 

[Melbourne Park]

I’ve been driving without assists for certain cars for a while. The R33 is pretty safe. I’m not sure if I would’ve fared so well with the RX-7 or NSX. I’d need the TCS at 2 if running a stock setup for either of those cars. I can drive them comfortably when they’re tuned, though.

I haven't driven or raced for maybe a month. I might be able to this week, and see if the Australian lag is still there in races.

But with Race A - why do that have that silly sort course? heck - give us the whole track please. That would be good fun in a slow car.

I did 4 laps in the R32. It felt like I was driving my old Landcruiser, on a mud track. Or like trying to stir something around a cook pot filled with well cooked porridge. Very sludgy indeed. I could not break 1:59, which I got the second lap.

So I gave up, but when I came back - I noticed the ABS light flickering. It was set on ABS 3. Phew. Turned it off during the first lap and then got a 1:585x. It did not feel fast but on Kudos that time was not slow. But my wheel feels like its not turning quick enough. Out of practice I guess.

Satomiblood, if you have a wheel, turn TC off and leave the car in 3rd gear and see if it feels better. If you have a controller - I have no idea...

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

The racing at Fuji was really dirty for some reason yesterday daytime, my SR dropped to B at one point through a mixture of being hit and letting those players know I was unhappy. The highlight was taking FL by half a second against Lucas Ordonez (the Bentley GT driver).

I did a few races later and it was perfectly clean, people were racing hard but all the contact was rubbing not ramming.

 

[Dorofint]

Hmm, done Race B x 4. First two were great, really good clean racing. Then we had someone on pole position for the last 2 who was really slow, no idea how they did their pole time. Brake checked everyone every bend, absolute carnage until you managed to get past them, and then it was back to high quality clean racing. Race 3 I didn't get safely past them, they punted me down to 16th. Managed to work my way back up to 12th, despite someone ramming me off the track with 200m to go. I did a 540 degree spin and went over the finish backwards, they got a 5 second penalty which dropped them back past the car behind them Did manage to get past the slow pole driver in race 4 for another solid finish, up 1k DR over the 4 races.

I had been driving the Huracan with TC off, which is fine if nobody hits me, but I've had to turn it to 2 to try to avoid spinning out when someone hits me. Got a 1:53.9 QT with the Huracan, which has had me starting around 3rd-5th on the grid, so it seems like a respectable QT for my 15k DR.

We have discussed the phenomena the one golden round here before. In the race, some drivers are extremely slower than in their qualifying round. The whole thing then leads to massive blocking and brake tests because these drivers do not want to give up their good position. These riders either rode a qualifying lap with max risk that they could not repeat in the race, or they simply asked a better rider to qualify for the race for them. A well-known of me does that for his son. The nine-year-old son then usually starts at the very front of the race, but has neither the speed nor the racecraft to be clean ahead.

 

[Melbourne Park]

We have discussed the phenomena the one golden round here before. In the race, some drivers are extremely slower than in their qualifying round. The whole thing then leads to massive blocking and brake tests because these drivers do not want to give up their good position. These riders either rode a qualifying lap with max risk that they could not repeat in the race, or they simply asked a better rider to qualify for the race for them. A well-known of me does that for his son. The nine-year-old son then usually starts at the very front of the race, but has neither the speed nor the racecraft to be clean ahead.

Wow - maybe a cheap face camera needs to correlate racing with qualifying. Sony's 3D ID camera is costly, and too low res to be worthwhile for racing IMO. Sony's needs a cheap log on - ID camera setup.

 

[gthelmi2398]

We have discussed the phenomena the one golden round here before. In the race, some drivers are extremely slower than in their qualifying round. The whole thing then leads to massive blocking and brake tests because these drivers do not want to give up their good position. These riders either rode a qualifying lap with max risk that they could not repeat in the race, or they simply asked a better rider to qualify for the race for them. A well-known of me does that for his son. The nine-year-old son then usually starts at the very front of the race, but has neither the speed nor the racecraft to be clean ahead.

You're a good daddy!!

Yes I know it. Sometimes I don't be so fast as like in the qualifying. For example on Fuji I have 1:33,1 and my optimum of the ten laps yesterday was 1:32,9.Think I can go and run a 1:31, but only one golden lap
So I can go and get this 1:32 or I stay on my 1:33, because this time I can go all the time, so also in the race.

Two weeks earlier I drove with a 4C a brilliant time kn Tokyo. It was a 1:17,650, but after driving an other race I needed so much time to get for a good 1:18.
So I blocked everyone, and this wasn't fun for me.
Hopefully I can go better this week.

I don't like the first race. I have to be so concentrated so much....it is hard work. The second and third race are more easy work for getting good laps.

 

[Bruunz]

Well after a small break from GT Sport becuase of The Division 2, I'm back at it again. Here was my week summed up. Enjoy.

 

[sdi_03]

Just leave those nissans in garage at race A
And put down a lap with the best japanese sportcar of that era. The allmighty RX7.
I have so much love for these little cars. Used to own one and competed in street and pro drift series with it. So much fun.
I had it shipped from Japan, so true JDM Type R2. Still miss that car.
Was just goofing around with it, and noticed that it was quite fast also. Some powerslides included in video

 

[Kiki_Haoru]

I really enjoy Race A this week. For some reason I am more competitive with road cars than with race cars.
Qualified p2 in 58.8 with the RX7-FD, which is actually much quicker in the bends than the GTRs.
But made a silly mistake,underestimating the boost from draft effect. As a result, I missed the breaking point at the end of the straight, tried to rejoin cleanly... And the game reset me at the beginning of turn 1!!! Had to make my way up in a mass of heavy GTRs, but still enjoyed the race.

I can't believe the game doesn't let players who run off track rejoin cleanly (i mean take their time, and not rush back on the track)... That does not work towards cleaner gameplay

 

[05XR8]

I run Autopolis at 1900 because the headlights are on. If only, PD. If only...
Nothing is better than racing with headlights ablaze.

Edit: Just did a 1:53.890 in the C7. Nice!

Edit2: Caught the left rear tyre on the exit of T1. Booooo.
Looked like quite a few cars were going off at the back. I'll try the GT-R next.

 

[Loverson]

Well didn't take too long for Race A top 10 lap times to be filled with a single car lol
All R32 now!
So i tried it and got myself a 58.651 after many off tracks fails ha.
Definitely not a car that you can easily throw around though (at least compared to the 22b).
I tried the RX-7 and honestly wished there was a Drift score event online because i've been having a blast sliding all over the track

 

[05XR8]

Okay, 1:53.304 in the GT-R. That put me way up the top than the previous race.

Edit: Did not expect this. That exit acceleration and torque is pretty darn good. Excellent brakes too.

 

[ScottPuss20]

I almost managed to win three races in row yesterday. I started off with Race B in the Citroen and it was rather tough for me, as I'm unfamiliar with Autopolis. My first race was horrible and I only finished 8th - then again I only started 12th. I had a chance to win the next race but I got bumped around and couldn't catch the leaders. I then started third again behind a Subaru and a Cayman. I overtook the Subaru at the hairpin in sector one simply by sending it down the inside. I didn't think I'd get the Porsche on the same lap but somehow I did. I made an EXTREMELY late dive on the inside of that off-camber hairpin and made it stick. However I couldn't hold the lead and I was overtaken on the first corner. The battle continued for another 2 laps with some great exchanges and side-by-side action, accompanied by lead changes and daring moves. I had the lead on the last lap and made a poor block to the inside of turn 1, getting a horrible exit and giving the Porsche an advantage into the next corner. He was right beside me and I had to cover off the inside line. He then gave me a bump at the hairpin, costing him time and I won the race.

I did Race A in the R32 and won easily, but I buggered a golden opportunity to win Race C. I pitted too late and I lost the lead to someone who pitted 3 laps earlier. I didn't realise that he was coming up soo quickly, as I was concentrating on the guy in second who hadn't yet pitted. He never did and came second, whilst I had to settle for third after stuffing the last sector. Surprisingly, my SR went from an A to an S, despite losing the race. I must've gained a lot of SR.

 

[Mistah_MCA]

I surprised myself earlier today. When Fuji with Gr. 2 was live a while back, I used the 2016 GT-R and got a 1:30.6.
This time? 1:29.9 with the "new" Honda NSX. I am a happy person.

Time trials are super fun... and stressful.

 

[05XR8]

Collision physics need a revamp. I understand online has lag and delayed control of the car, etc. Come now, I'm in a three way battle for 3rd. A 4C and 458 are hounding me all race.

The RC F ain't nimble, but it's working. I'm not blocking and I give room as always.
The 458 sees an opportunity to use its handling. We go side by side into the left hand double corners. It gets close to me and ping pings off me into the grass. I get 2 seconds! If the game allowed running, we would have both continued side by side and the 458 probably would have passed me up the inside hairpin.

 

[gtpierre]

Collision physics need a revamp. I understand online has lag and delayed control of the car, etc. Come now, I'm in a three way battle for 3rd. A 4C and 458 are hounding me all race.

The RC F ain't nimble, but it's working. I'm not blocking and I give room as always.
The 458 sees an opportunity to use its handling. We go side by side into the left hand double corners. It gets close to me and ping pings off me into the grass. I get 2 seconds! If the game allowed running, we would have both continued side by side and the 458 probably would have passed me up the inside hairpin.

Even without lag it can make weird things.
I tried the red bull ring Gr3 race last week (it was a mess) but at some point I didn't understand how a guy could have collided into me because I could see space between his car and my car. We both had a good ping but when I checked the replay afterwards I found out the cars collided without ever touching.
There must be some kind of failed modeling of some of the car's "contour" because there was 30cm between our cars, and still the game made our cars bounce...

 

[Leggacy]

Just leave those nissans in garage at race A
And put down a lap with the best japanese sportcar of that era. The allmighty RX7.
I have so much love for these little cars. Used to own one and competed in street and pro drift series with it. So much fun.
I had it shipped from Japan, so true JDM Type R2. Still miss that car.
Was just goofing around with it, and noticed that it was quite fast also. Some powerslides included in video

I think the RX7 is the only car I can drift properly. I keep finding myself blipping the throttle on the turn in to the last corner to swing the back out and give me the correct angle. Probably not the fastest way to take that corner but is sure is fun

 

[05XR8]

Even without lag it can make weird things.
I tried the red bull ring Gr3 race last week (it was a mess) but at some point I didn't understand how a guy could have collided into me because I could see space between his car and my car. We both had a good ping but when I checked the replay afterwards I found out the cars collided without ever touching.
There must be some kind of failed modeling of some of the car's "contour" because there was 30cm between our cars, and still the game made our cars bounce...

Well, this last race, I got punted into the grass and finished with a Clean Bonus. Hmmm...
I'm having fun tonight. One more in the RC F and I'm done. Maybe another in the 650S.

 

[Tea_Leaves]

Anyway, it was time for some qualifying on Race B. My goal was to hit 53s or better and I wasn't quite getting there to begin with.

I first tried the Veyron and hit a 1:54.5. Next were the 86 and Atenza and got similar times in each ranging from 54.2 - 54.8. Then I figured I'd try the little mistress (4c) and instantly shaved 1.5 seconds off. Ended with a 1:53.1.

Looks like another week of 4c for me.

 

[GT Sport]

I wonder why GTPedia never redeems his achievement bonuses

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Even without lag it can make weird things.
I tried the red bull ring Gr3 race last week (it was a mess) but at some point I didn't understand how a guy could have collided into me because I could see space between his car and my car. We both had a good ping but when I checked the replay afterwards I found out the cars collided without ever touching.
There must be some kind of failed modeling of some of the car's "contour" because there was 30cm between our cars, and still the game made our cars bounce...

You need to have the replay from the other car as well to be sure cars never touched. It is weird if your car responded to a collision that you never see happen, however also the replay is not reliable when it comes to (small) lag spikes. You have to look at the live video replay and check if all 3 contact circles light up at some point.

But true, collisions are based on some crude boundary box. You can not stick your wheel inside the empty space of another open wheeled car. However I also often see the opposite with solid cars intersecting without collisions. My client must get other (delayed) information from the 2 cars I'm looking at than what they are experiencing at that moment. Although sometimes the game lets cars go completely through each other with lower DR drivers.

Even a good ping of 30ms is a 30 cm difference at only 36 kph!


I didn't do anymore sport races yesterday. I did do a 7.05 lap in the F1500 on N24 with medium tires in PSVR. That turbo feels like a rocket boost in VR Going full throttle through Flugplatz and the right hander right after feels like my brain ought to be smashed to the left side of my head lol. Too bad GT6 doesn't show g-forces, I wonder how high it gets up to in these fast cars with all that downforce. The SF19 is even faster on N24 and doesn't need any lifting at Flugplatz either.

 

[05XR8]

This Evo just caught up and blew right past me(in the 650S) on the esses after the downhill righthander. That thing is quick. First one I've seen being used.

 

[Satomiblood]

I haven't driven or raced for maybe a month. I might be able to this week, and see if the Australian lag is still there in races.

But with Race A - why do that have that silly sort course? heck - give us the whole track please. That would be good fun in a slow car.

I did 4 laps in the R32. It felt like I was driving my old Landcruiser, on a mud track. Or like trying to stir something around a cook pot filled with well cooked porridge. Very sludgy indeed. I could not break 1:59, which I got the second lap.

So I gave up, but when I came back - I noticed the ABS light flickering. It was set on ABS 3. Phew. Turned it off during the first lap and then got a 1:585x. It did not feel fast but on Kudos that time was not slow. But my wheel feels like its not turning quick enough. Out of practice I guess.

Satomiblood, if you have a wheel, turn TC off and leave the car in 3rd gear and see if it feels better. If you have a controller - I have no idea...

I use a DS4. I've been too lazy to research wheels.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Ugh just lost 9 SR from getting bumped around on Autopolis. I'm still A/S and D/S has a free pass to ram me off the road and I get SR Down. Then when I pass clean, he simply gets to overtake right through me, guess better than getting bumped off again... Might just get my daily mileage elsewhere as sport mode this week is a dud. Oh well, won't be DR.A much longer at this rate.

If next Autopolis race goes the same I'll drive at the back on Fuji to restore SR and leave sport mode be. Crap week.

 

[NevilleNobody]

It's with a slightly heavy heart I agree about Race B. Something isn't working for me with Gr.4 around Autopolis but will give it a few more tries. I don't massively enjoy driving the 4C either which doesn't help.

It's an absolute rubbish track, it's Fuji and Yas Marina like in it's relentless, pointless and annoying corners. Too long, too dull, too featureless, too much like Fuji. The entire last sector could be cut out, it adds nothing.

Go away.

With tracks like Oschersleben, Phillip island, Road America, Road Atlanta, Oulton Park, Donington, Imola etc etc, there's really no excuse to be racing on Fuji or Autopolis every dang week. I know license costs are high but i'd be happy to get a few more decent tracks ahead of more cars or whatever else developers are working.

Sport mode right now is ridiculous, it's all Fuji and Suzuka, relentless, every week it seems. Autopolis or St Croix just add to the theme of rubbish tracks. Too long, too fiddly too conducive to messy races.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Yep I'm done, another 6 SR down from this

I stick to the inside, he goes wide, so I pass. When I'm alongside he turns in on me, hits my rear left while bouncing off and I get a 5 sec penalty. It probably wasn't intentional, just bad car control. Yet racing with this penalty system in a mixed DR room is not possible on this track. From 99 to 84 SR in two races. One Fuji to restore SR then bye bye sport mode.

 

[05XR8]

PI have the same long radius corners. Road America has long radius corners and that's a long track. Road Atlanta have the esses and a super long braking zone like Fuji, that would create havoc in Sport Mode. Oulton Park is narrower than Autopolis, Donnington and Imola have just as many type corners as Autopolis. Tracks don't matter. It's the people we all race against. I'd love all the tracks you mentioned, but it's not the solution to keep adding them if the outcomes are the same.


Started last and had good scraps. Good night.

 

[ShiftingGears]

Okay, 1:53.304 in the GT-R. That put me way up the top than the previous race.

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Edit: Did not expect this. That exit acceleration and torque is pretty darn good. Excellent brakes too.
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I recorded the video of the same race, went from 11th to 5th on the first lap then just couldn't close on you at all.