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Seems to work through the beta studio, should be live now.

It works now indeed. But I don't think this is legal in racing... Also a dirty move if it is done on purpose. Man people can't keep it together when they mess it up for themselfs. Instead of letting people pass after they messed up it looks like they do everything to prevent losing to mutch positions. :banghead:
 
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The Aston is not particularly rapid, but it is easy to drive.

There's something about the GT-baRge that I've really started to dislike. I can see why people can be quick around Monza in it, and maybe if I took it to QTT I'd get a sub 50 hotlap after the odd reconnoitre, but it's one of those cars that will take all my energy to be consistent in. I'm never (I mean, never say never, but...) going to get near a top10 time, so I don't necessarily need to use the meta car long term.

I may use it to get a quicker QT than the Aston to maybe start higher up the grid - frowned upon I know, but down in the lower echelons race pace is so far detached from QT across the board it doesn't really matter - but I'll still take the AMV into the races, it takes very little effort to keep it pointing the right way on the black stuff (even when sliding it into Ascari). Everyone else allowing, I can wiz around doing consistent 1.50-51-52s. Not rapid. But if the recently kept company keeps binning it at the chicanes with all their straightline speed but no cornering ability, then the possibilities are endless.

Slow and steady wins the race, right?! ;)
What wins is the consistency. If someone can keep up with the GT-R and able to drive while its front die then great.
Lots of people are also picking that car due to fuel efficiency against Mustang for example.

Still slow and steady (also safe) wins well
 
Yegads what a race :crazy:. The theme song for tonight is "Can I play with madness?" :rolleyes:. Is it Monza? Yes it's Monza. Of course it's Monza. It's always bloody Monza! I went in with the Viper. I skipped racing last night because I fell asleep, did a race the night before with the Aston (too long ago to be bothered with a report). I didn't have enough time to beat my slow Aston time, but I came close enough. I started P14/18 on a mixed grid of Cs and Ds with an A and B thrown in at the top. Bit better than a couple of nights ago when there was only two of us DR/Ds and it was mostly Bs.

Race starts at corner exit and off we go. I start short shifting from the get go and try to stay in a higher gear than recommended on the twisty bits. So far so good. I avoided any drama at the first chicane and generally kept things pretty tidy. I was amazed how slowly people were through the chicanes.. it really held me back :rolleyes:.

I was doing pretty amazing considering how slow I am, and second last lap I was up to P3. The car decided to slow down of it's own accord. I tried shifting up and down but nothing seemed to work, and no, it wasn't a penalty zone :p. After I'd been passed by 3 cars it started to pick up again. Fuel warning came on saying I had 0.9 laps left, but I was being blocked from getting into the pits :banghead:. I was on my last lap and the fuel ran out at the final corner. Pulled over to the outside and was passed by a few more cars, but the finish line was in sight and I was going to finish with a points gain..... cross the line and you guessed it ... "Final Lap" flashes up :banghead::banghead::banghead:. The most ridiculous thing is .. I *still* finished P15, which was *not* last place :crazy:.

SR up 3, DR dropped another 300.. which is in addition to the 3 SR I gained and 400 DR I lost from my first race at Monza on Monday/Tuesday night. Another day above DR 1 :odd:.
 
The MacLaren is a challenge. I'm getting better with it, got into the 1:50's, but the gearing is still all wrong for this track. Sucks when you have to shift up right before braking, either waste fuel or basically lift early. Clean racing is definitely over, last race was a good old fashioned derby again. I went from last to 11th after the first 2 chicanes, then a McLaren didn't know what Ascari was, had to slow down for him fishtailing through it and got rammed off by a car coming from behind at the exit. I left him as much room as possible, just seems to invite people to ram you more. No penalties issued but clean race gone, no SR up at the end of the sector. Then an SR Down later from a different car not knowing where to brake.

So to get clean races, after 11 pm and possibly later, before 10 am (EST). Rest of the day, say your prayers.
 
The MacLaren is a challenge. I'm getting better with it, got into the 1:50's, but the gearing is still all wrong for this track. Sucks when you have to shift up right before braking, either waste fuel or basically lift early. Clean racing is definitely over, last race was a good old fashioned derby again. I went from last to 11th after the first 2 chicanes, then a McLaren didn't know what Ascari was, had to slow down for him fishtailing through it and got rammed off by a car coming from behind at the exit. I left him as much room as possible, just seems to invite people to ram you more. No penalties issued but clean race gone, no SR up at the end of the sector. Then an SR Down later from a different car not knowing where to brake.

So to get clean races, after 11 pm and possibly later, before 10 am (EST). Rest of the day, say your prayers.
I like the mclaren down to a 1:50.7 definitely a load more time to be found. Not sure about the gear issues you’re referring to though?
 
I like the mclaren down to a 1:50.7 definitely a load more time to be found. Not sure about the gear issues you’re referring to though?

Just coming up to the second chicane and Lesmo it hits the flashing part right before the braking zone. 3rd still has a nice kick at the top range yet wastes fuel before turning in to Lesmo 1 keeping it revving there. I also like it better when the car pulls though a corner at the low range of the rev bar. MacLaren doesn't pull in 3 through lesmo 2 and needs to shift right at corner exit from 2. Not ideal.

If at first you don't succeed, try try try try again.
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I had to concede positions a bunch of times to avoid all the bumping going on. Driving clean is seen as a weakness and the next car quickly sticks his nose in. It kept going like that after the pit so all my laps in the second half were slowed to 1:52s. A low 1:51 was the best in the first stint, messy race. All cars finishing behind me had red ratings and a couple in front of me got called out for dirty moves.

Next up, the other Brit, Aston Marton.
 
Just coming up to the second chicane and Lesmo it hits the flashing part right before the braking zone. 3rd still has a nice kick at the top range yet wastes fuel before turning in to Lesmo 1 keeping it revving there. I also like it better when the car pulls though a corner at the low range of the rev bar. MacLaren doesn't pull in 3 through lesmo 2 and needs to shift right at corner exit from 2. Not ideal.

If at first you don't succeed, try try try try again.
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I had to concede positions a bunch of times to avoid all the bumping going on. Driving clean is seen as a weakness and the next car quickly sticks his nose in. It kept going like that after the pit so all my laps in the second half were slowed to 1:52s. A low 1:51 was the best in the first stint, messy race. All cars finishing behind me had red ratings and a couple in front of me got called out for dirty moves.

Next up, the other Brit, Aston Marton.
I was using the F1 will try in the other McLaren
 
I was using the F1 will try in the other McLaren

Ahh lol. That's not a real McLaren, shouldn't be in GR.3 either :dunce:

First attempt at the V12 Vantage, woot got a 1:49 lap. No clean race bonus though, too many people playing bumper cars around me. The penalty system lets most of it slide only 3 red ratings at the end, one red B. An accident happened right in front of me again exiting the pit as the car exiting in front of me crossed the white line straight into the path of an incoming MacLaren. He already had a 3 sec penalty from bumping me off the track, now the MacLaren had a penalty as well since he couldn't avoid the car crossing the line who went off first. I passed them both at the penalty zone.

I lost the bonus when behind a different car on the way to T1. He moved to the inside to defend, so I was going to brake on the left. Then under braking he swerves over to the outside right in front of me, compromising my braking with his slipstream, I try to avoid but clip him. Do not swerve in the braking zone, pick a line, stick with it :banghead:

It would really help if PD put in some splash screens while loading the race to explain some basic rules.

Disconnected during the next race, that's also still a thing. Should not be any SR loss (lap 7) but I wonder how much DR that cost. Just over 1500 DR, about 8 excellent races from the back :lol: Quit the next one, 🤬 show, time for something more productive.
 
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Testing the waters at 2pm
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Clean enough to pull it off finally. Good car, best lap of 1:49.6 without drafting. Every time I try to set a faster lap by drafting someone they always end up slowing me down lol. I got to start 20th, coasted until after Ascari, the only way to not get wrecked or SR Down in lap 1 and I still gained 5 positions. I had to give one back as a wobbly GT-R blocked me with a recovery speeding in from behind. After lap 1 the race was on, good race. 6 x red S and a red A, I guess that's clean for Monza :)

Time for one more before the kids get off school. Huracan next, back to Italy.

First attempt in the Huracan, game over second chicane

Shoulda just slowed down and stayed behind the stragglers before T1. What were they doing. Doesn't matter how careful you drive, apparently this is bad.
 
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Testing the waters at 2pm
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Clean enough to pull it off finally. Good car, best lap of 1:49.6 without drafting. Every time I try to set a faster lap by drafting someone they always end up slowing me down lol. I got to start 20th, coasted until after Ascari, the only way to not get wrecked or SR Down in lap 1 and I still gained 5 positions. I had to give one back as a wobbly GT-R blocked me with a recovery speeding in from behind. After lap 1 the race was on, good race. 6 x red S and a red A, I guess that's clean for Monza :)

Time for one more before the kids get off school. Huracan next, back to Italy.
I'm gonna get into the Monza racing, soon. What's been the best thing to do with tires and fuel, for that race?
 
I'm gonna get into the Monza racing, soon. What's been the best thing to do with tires and fuel, for that race?
One pit race for me so far due to fuel, and the refuel can be lengthy. No reason for hards, so mediums all the way. I'm going to start managing fuel now that I'm comfy with the track. I bet there's 2-4 secs to be had in the pits. Draft an F1 on the straights and map fuel to 4, maybe? Then pass it after it goes off as they are ought to do.
 
If you are racing for the win, you can generally fuel save to pit lap 7 for brand new medium sized shoes a smidge of fuel and hunt everyone down. Which seems very effective in a nice clean race (not that I've found one of those)

I'm tempted to whap it over to fuel map 2/3/4 or whatevers required (I run AT so can't short shift) with hards and no stop this bad boy. I have no ambition to be quick, only to avoid the carnage. See what happens by the end of the race. Either that or go Medium and only stop for boots.

Given the amount of penalties dished out around the place, however, I reckon all strategies have the possibly to fail miserably or succeed triumphantly.
 
If you are racing for the win, you can generally fuel save to pit lap 7 for brand new medium sized shoes a smidge of fuel and hunt everyone down. Which seems very effective in a nice clean race (not that I've found one of those)

I'm tempted to whap it over to fuel map 2/3/4 or whatevers required (I run AT so can't short shift) with hards and no stop this bad boy. I have no ambition to be quick, only to avoid the carnage. See what happens by the end of the race. Either that or go Medium and only stop for boots.

Given the amount of penalties dished out around the place, however, I reckon all strategies have the possibly to fail miserably or succeed triumphantly.
What car are you using? I've used the GT-R and the Lexus and they both seem thirsty.
 
I'm gonna get into the Monza racing, soon. What's been the best thing to do with tires and fuel, for that race?

I'm keeping it simple this week, medium tires, pit end of 5. A bit of fuel saving to shorten the pit time but no stop, hard tires and/or no tire change on this track is a recipe for getting hit.

For racing from the front you might want to pit later, definitely not earlier. Don't get in between the mess again!
 
What car are you using? I've used the GT-R and the Lexus and they both seem thirsty.

Aston Martin. But its not quick quick - I'm really not looking for outright wins here. I'm just trying to take maximum advantage of everyone elses getting it all wrong.

So don't quote me on any of them being an actual good strategy for good drivers in a good lobby. That's just me navigating DR/D...
 
Teasted th race C q with the GTR again. Some one said, that even a monkey can do under 1:48 with it...
I guess that Im wrong kind of monkey then. 1:48.099 :lol:
Optimum was 1:47.7xx
There is still something not there for me in Monza...

EDIT: Added missing 10sec. :D
 
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Another one down, thanks to starting 20th and @DaddyDaFoe_ leading (and winning) the race.
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GR.3 Huracan is a handful. Fun to drive, but not recommended for dodging traffic. I almost lost the clean start twice. First a Supra tried to pit manoever me through Parabolica. I kept 2 wheels inside the lines, he got the SR Down, phew. I lost 2 places but race on. Then a diver overshot T1 and made contact on his track re-entry. There's plenty room to turn first then enter track ugh. But again, no SR Down for me. Sometimes the system gets it right like a broken clock.

I'm staying in Europe for now, France is up next. Renault RS 01. The weather sucks, stuck inside anyway.

First attempt in the Renault ruined by the penalty zone. Two cars got slowed down, I avoided their ghosts, followed close behind traffic into Ascari, yet both penalty servers did not brake in time. Both hit me from behind taking turns lol. SR Down, attempt failed. It was another dirty race.

I forgot to switch to medium tires at the start so I figured I would try out a no stop. That required extreme short shifting and driving in fm2. I went from 13th to 5th when the majority pitted end of lap 5, then fell back to 10th during the rest of the race. Not worth it. My best lap was 1:53 while drafting and spending a bit more fuel to keep up, last 3 laps 1:56 to make it.

Good on the second attempt
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Worse result than the no stop... Actually both races had the same total time 17:31 and change. However in my one stop I couldn't push the car until lap 8 to set a 1:50.8 lap, always stuck behind some not quite in control driver having to brake extra or avoid. So perhaps when starting last, no stop is an option. Definitely not when you have room to drive.
 
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So after having abit of a internal ragequit last night (as probably shown in my status update) and watching my SR tumble down, somehow I said "Lets do that again" today with Race C. Even with all that simmering anger from all the stuff that happened with me, I for some reason decided to get doing the daily races. I've gone from S to B last night and back to S today. I think I am officially insane.
 
Another one down, thanks to starting 20th and @DaddyDaFoe_ leading (and winning) the race.
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GR.3 Huracan is a handful. Fun to drive, but not recommended for dodging traffic. I almost lost the clean start twice. First a Supra tried to pit manoever me through Parabolica. I kept 2 wheels inside the lines, he got the SR Down, phew. I lost 2 places but race on. Then a diver overshot T1 and made contact on his track re-entry. There's plenty room to turn first then enter track ugh. But again, no SR Down for me. Sometimes the system gets it right like a broken clock.

I'm staying in Europe for now, France is up next. Renault RS 01. The weather sucks, stuck inside anyway.

First attempt in the Renault ruined by the penalty zone. Two cars got slowed down, I avoided their ghosts, followed close behind traffic into Ascari, yet both penalty servers did not brake in time. Both hit me from behind taking turns lol. SR Down, attempt failed. It was another dirty race.

I forgot to switch to medium tires at the start so I figured I would try out a no stop. That required extreme short shifting and driving in fm2. I went from 13th to 5th when the majority pitted end of lap 5, then fell back to 10th during the rest of the race. Not worth it. My best lap was 1:53 while drafting and spending a bit more fuel to keep up, last 3 laps 1:56 to make it.

Good on the second attempt
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Worse result than the no stop... Actually both races had the same total time 17:31 and change. However in my one stop I couldn't push the car until lap 8 to set a 1:50.8 lap, always stuck behind some not quite in control driver. So perhaps when starting last, no stop is an option. Definitely not when you have room to drive.
BTW I always forget to tell how big a fan I am of your livery, @Sven Jurgens . Love SG.
 
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Well, I said Monza was clean and respectful, it all changed once my DR got over 20k, which I think confirms my previous post where I said it's having a mass of drivers of similar ability around you on the track that is a nightmare. Just started a race on pole position as B/S with 2 x A/S behind me. Of course, despite the fact that they had failed to outqualify me, they both appeared to think they had an automatic right to overtake me into the first chicane, when there is no possible legal overtake available at that point, as the slipstream doesn't allow the cars behind to achieve overlap by the braking point. And once you've been rammed down into the melee, it's a nightmare, almost impossible to avoid collisions as people keep parking their cars on the track in front of you. Still, DR up from 15.5k to 21k, QT down to 1:47.7, will leave it at that for today. DR down from 99 to 76 from the constant bumping. And someone with a name starting with Ram (not R4M), I saw blatantly ram another car side to side on a straight.
 
It's destruction derby on Monza. It was the RCZ's turn. I forgot to switch tires again before the start so I figured to give no stop another try.
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It was entertaining to watch all the chaos from a distance. My car only got hit by flying cones still tumbling around. I went extra slow this time so I had the juice to speed up after everyone pitted. Got in 5th in lap 6 and stayed there. It was a weird room though, huge gap between 4th and 6th I was lucky to get the drive in. Best lap was only a high 1:52 after speeding up a bit and switching back to FM1. It's a rather boring way to 'race', felt more like cruising around while watching the fireworks instead of participating.

Next up GT Citroen race car and some actual racing.
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Worse result than the no stop, different room, overall it was 2 seconds faster. Yeah I'm calling this one worse than the RCZ. Best lap of 1:51.6, only 4% fuel left at the pit stop, easy to upset out of Ascari, can't keep up with anything. Not much of a race car.

One more Frenchy left. I wonder if the Peugeot VGT will make 5 laps on one tank :)

Btw I'm glad it's far less messy than yesterday at this time. There are still a lot of cones flying around and penalty serving to be had, but much less congestion than the last 2 days where 20% of the field was serving penalties every lap.

It's better on fuel than I thought, had 10% left at the pit stop
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Easy to run consistent 1:50 laps in this one. Best lap of 1:50.2 without drafting. The gearing could be better for Lesmo and I kept forgetting to gear down to first for T1. Most cars can stay in 2nd there, this one is slow out of the frst chicane in 2nd.

There was another driver using the Citroen GT this race, qualified 1:47, not with this car I bet. His best lap was 1:49.75 so it's just me that sucks with that car. Although I assume he had a lot of fast slipstream at the top instead of having to dodge traffic :lol: GT-R still wins the race.
 
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