"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Pigems]

I beat that lap by .00X, but getting a into the 23’s is proving rather difficult ATM. 24.1 it is then for tonight.

 

[Granadier]

Im having some fun in France (or wherever this track is located)
I lost so much SR at the Mountain so I have been driving this race to try to gain some back.
I like the track and its fast and wide so passing is not too crazy, but in this race I got hit in the last lap, and I really did not understand what happened so I included a replay of the Brazilian and Argentinian that was behind me ...

Yikes, this was a really bad move by the Viper. But also by the Nissan that was behind you. From the Viper's perspective it looks like the Nissan driver dove across your bumper to try and block them right at the last minute. Very poor move on their part to try and save the position. Viper was too close and broke late trying to take your inside. Nissan attempted to block the Viper. Then you got caught in the fray because of them. :/

edit: actually looking back at the replay I think this was entirely the Nissan's fault behind you. The Viper had the inside line locked down and was giving you plenty of space. The Nissan then dove in front to block the Viper's line which created the contact. You can see the steering input here to cut off the Viper.

Gotta say though, your reaction to that was far calmer than I'd expect from that scenario.

 

[Mistah_MCA]

Can't stay away any longer. Time to see how I qualify @ St. Croix.

Welcome to the Sainte-Croix party bus! Come on innnnn!!!

 

[Leftcurl]

Yeh... you know how the Porsche 919 has only 1 lap of hybrid juice and then you stay out for another lap and beat your time without any hybrid up your sleeve? Oh yeh I’m all over that kind of nonsense

 

[Pelikan]

Some other competitive choices for Race B:

Mclaren F1
Ferrari 458
Lambo Huracan

 

[Granadier]

Made it!! My goal this week was to get into the 2:09’s and I crushed my previous best along with my optimal time at once. Feels good

Some other competitive choices for Race B:

Mclaren F1
Ferrari 458
Lambo Huracan

Can confirm from racing in your lobby last night when you drove like we were standing still, haha

 

[Mistah_MCA]

Some other competitive choices for Race B:

Mclaren F1
Ferrari 458
Lambo Huracan

Hopefully we cross paths again and have another good race, like that one time we battled it out with the other player at Nordschleife with the Lancer Evos.

 

[05XR8]

Forgot I have a Giallo Modena 458 sitting in my garage. Maybe I'll try that when I get home.

 

[Granadier]

Today was a good day.

The last stretch to my first A rank was absolutely brutal. My 2:09.5 quali time is enough to get me into the midpack with A/A+ lobbies, but my race pace can't keep up yet. Lots of bumps and squeezes as faster drivers get impatient behind me. Definitely not in Kansas anymore!

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

I'm surprised how big the strategy window is for race c this week. I've been pitting at the end of lap 4 if the lead group are tightly packed and leapfrogging up to the front. You have old tyres towards the end but because of the dirty air the quick drivers can't really do much about it.

 

[6BK]

@05XR8; I tried the Atenza. Nope, not for me. Felt like I was going fast but was 2 seconds off my pace when going over the line. Just felt I could not throw it around and push it to the limit of the track like the GT-R.

Finally got to race. About 6 Daily B with Q times coming along OK - 1.10.605 in the GT-R with very little track experience. 1st 3 races were total muck. Started well back on the grid and went backward from that. 3 last places in a row and 2K drop in DR. After that I started to get a groove. Got a 4th and 5th and then started last but worked up to 10th so happy with progress.

I will say that St Croix seems to bring the most aggressive pushing out in players. Yes, racing on GT can be tough and generally they take no prisoners but man it was a tough crowd last night. Maybe it was just my lack of confidence on the track, or perhaps all the space on the track is making people think there's space for 4 cars wide?

The 90 degree right at the end of the long sweeping right hander in the last 3rd of the track (we need names for sectors on these made up tracks) is a pain. The cars behind get a huge draft all the way up the straight and carry more speed into the turn than the car ahead so think they are faster. I was dive bombed, shunted and pushed every time I rounded it. The real problem is that the approach to this corner is actually determined when you cross the bridge and take that 4th gear gradual right hander that leads to the long straight (with right kink). I am not getting enough speed out of that bend so lose speed on straight and constantly lose .5 secs and more relative to others on the track. This often loses me the draft in front and lets cars behind constantly gain on me to the point that I'm under attack by the time we reach the sharp right. Other than that, I seem to be very fast in the first sector through the esses, onto the bridge and up to the exit of it so my laps are a real yo-yo affair.

 

[Kevstah2004]

Race B
Sliced off another second
2:13.855
2:12.865 = Opt
Seems as long as I make the first sector near 28s I do a semi decent lap but then i’m struggling to keep pace through the twisty section without slowing down and the next corners after the bridge, having enough speed 90+ without clipping the barrier.

 

[Lateralus5813]

wow, had 3 nice races yesterday afternoon and was happy, tried more 3 or 4 at night and it was a legit nightmare. My DR, which wasn't very good already, just tanked! People kept bumping on my back all the time, the lane is so wide that there is no excuse for that. And it makes no sense for my SR to go down when someone hits me from behind!!


Edit: Used the GT-R for 2 races but didn't enjoy it. Back to THE JAAAAG

 

[stpatty]

@05XR8; I tried the Atenza. Nope, not for me. Felt like I was going fast but was 2 seconds off my pace when going over the line. Just felt I could not throw it around and push it to the limit of the track like the GT-R.

Finally got to race. About 6 Daily B with Q times coming along OK - 1.10.605 in the GT-R with very little track experience. 1st 3 races were total muck. Started well back on the grid and went backward from that. 3 last places in a row and 2K drop in DR. After that I started to get a groove. Got a 4th and 5th and then started last but worked up to 10th so happy with progress.

I will say that St Croix seems to bring the most aggressive pushing out in players. Yes, racing on GT can be tough and generally they take no prisoners but man it was a tough crowd last night. Maybe it was just my lack of confidence on the track, or perhaps all the space on the track is making people think there's space for 4 cars wide?

The 90 degree right at the end of the long sweeping right hander in the last 3rd of the track (we need names for sectors on these made up tracks) is a pain. The cars behind get a huge draft all the way up the straight and carry more speed into the turn than the car ahead so think they are faster. I was dive bombed, shunted and pushed every time I rounded it. The real problem is that the approach to this corner is actually determined when you cross the bridge and take that 4th gear gradual right hander that leads to the long straight (with right kink). I am not getting enough speed out of that bend so lose speed on straight and constantly lose .5 secs and more relative to others on the track. This often loses me the draft in front and lets cars behind constantly gain on me to the point that I'm under attack by the time we reach the sharp right. Other than that, I seem to be very fast in the first sector through the esses, onto the bridge and up to the exit of it so my laps are a real yo-yo affair.

In my first race with A+ drivers at St. Croix I had a spectacular send on a guy in a 458 at the end of the back straight. I thought I braked earlier than normal but I was about to go flying into the back of him, swerved out to the right, prayed the car would stop then parked it on the apex. I was so surprised I made it I messed up the acceleration out of the corner and lost the place anyway.

Best advice for the long right hander - brake slightly once you're past the orange line on the fence on the right hand side. Very slightly, and when you do, lift off the throttle and turn in. When you start getting close to the fence on the right get on the throttle again, just enough to keep you from hitting it. When you can floor it, floor it. You can usually be doing 110 mph when you've straightened up.

 

[6BK]

@stpatty cheers, I'll try that while reading your post...then I can blame double screening for the crash. I watched @Mistah_MCA video and my run through the esses was actually the very same as his. I hit the bridge checkpoint at 52 secs dead (about 1 sec behind him). It is that bloody right hand after the bridge I can't get, even after watching him. I'll try the orange line on the fence as a point. I think I may actually be accelerating too soon and then having to lift off to correct it.

 

[250Cal]

I'm surprised how big the strategy window is for race c this week. I've been pitting at the end of lap 4 if the lead group are tightly packed and leapfrogging up to the front. You have old tyres towards the end but because of the dirty air the quick drivers can't really do much about it.

It's also very difficult (impossible?) to come out of the final corner behind a TS050 and outdrag it to the line in another TS050. If you're infront at the final corner, and the other driver is clean, and you don't make a mistake, I think you win. See below:



On a different note I think it's a shame back markers have to be ghosted but clearly understand why.

 

[Grinchhh]

@stpatty cheers, I'll try that while reading your post...then I can blame double screening for the crash. I watched @Mistah_MCA video and my run through the esses was actually the very same as his. I hit the bridge checkpoint at 52 secs dead (about 1 sec behind him). It is that bloody right hand after the bridge I can't get, even after watching him. I'll try the orange line on the fence as a point. I think I may actually be accelerating too soon and then having to lift off to correct it.

Had a nice race with you today. Was good fun. Great to see there are clean racers that still fight hard in my DR bracket

 

[Doglove]

After almost 6 weeks not playing(mainly because of the track choices), i was happy to see St-Croix again, at least, the B config. Started my usual supects as the '16 Lexus, F-Type, Aston, Mustang an Ford LM. Didn't look at the leaderbord cars. Best was a 2.12.1 in the Ford, yesterday. Today i saw that the Nismo is the car to be in. Well, tbh, i've only drived that car a dozen of times, certainly more than a year a go or so. I didn't liked it at all because of the poor brakes and corner entry's. (IMHO), it was never an option for me in GR3. Now, i buyed it again and went to track. ...Wauw, inmediatly into the .11's with a best of .5. Is this car made better with updates or so, ...or is it just me? Grtz

Went just in the .10.9. Think i can shave a few tenth's off in to the .5 till .7's.

 

[ASH32]

It's also very difficult (impossible?) to come out of the final corner behind a TS050 and outdrag it to the line in another TS050. If you're infront at the final corner, and the other driver is clean, and you don't make a mistake, I think you win.

Correct, it actually happened to me in one of my races from the back, I was even on the power earlier than they were and they had a little twitch but they still beat me by just hundreths, the line comes just too early for this to work.

It being hard to overtake (when opponent does not mess up) is why some are a bit too aggressive, I admit I have been myself really, just without the knock the other car clean off the track stuff like I've seen other people do.

Starting 1st is much easier.

 

[250Cal]

After almost 6 weeks not playing(mainly because of the track choices), i was happy to see St-Croix again, at least, the B config. Started my usual supects as the '16 Lexus, F-Type, Aston, Mustang an Ford LM. Didn't look at the leaderbord cars. Best was a 2.12.1 in the Ford, yesterday. Today i saw that the Nismo is the car to be in. Well, tbh, i've only drived that car a dozen of times, certainly more than a year a go or so. I didn't liked it at all because of the poor brakes and corner entry's. (IMHO), it was never an option for me in GR3. Now, i buyed it again and went to track. ...Wauw, inmediatly into the .11's with a best of .5. Is this car made better with updates or so, ...or is it just me? Grtz

I think the G.3 GT-R is much easier to drive on the DS4 post updates. Earlier it was just too difficult to be a viable option for me.

 

[6BK]

Had a nice race with you today. Was good fun. Great to see there are clean racers that still fght had in my DR bracket

Very good of you to say sir, even better that it was worthy of your first post here. Hopefully it was not one of my 1st 3 races last night...they were horrible and all down to me not being in the right head space.

What gave my identity away...the big 6BK plastered across the tail of the car perhaps? I'll keep an eye out for you in future lobbies.

 

[Doglove]

I think the G.3 GT-R is much easier to drive on the DS4 post updates. Earlier it was just too difficult to be a viable option for me.

Well, same thoughts here, i believe!

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I think the G.3 GT-R is much easier to drive on the DS4 post updates. Earlier it was just too difficult to be a viable option for me.

It was always pretty easy to drive on the DS4 with good acceleration, countered by bad brakes. Hence I can't stand the car as it was the one that rear ended me the most at Mount Panorama. I guess the updates gave it a higher top speed plus the wide track makes the worse brakes less of an issue, lots of space to save the corner and accelerate away again. The thing also acts like a tank, perfect ram vehicle. Guess who drives it all the time....

 

[Doglove]

It was always pretty easy to drive on the DS4 with good acceleration, countered by bad brakes. Hence I can't stand the car as it was the one that rear ended me the most at Mount Panorama. I guess the updates gave it a higher top speed plus the wide track makes the worse brakes less of an issue, lots of space to save the corner and accelerate away again. The thing also acts like a tank, perfect ram vehicle. Guess who drives it all the time....

Hi Jurgens, what do you mean with ' it drives like a thank, guess who drives it all the time' ?

It's certainly feels lighter than the Mustang for an example.

 

[Invisigoth]

The track is a vampire. Set to drain. Secret destroyer. Your car goes up in flames.....Yeh, so second crack at the vampire track with the Supra. What a difference a day makes. Same qualy time, this time matched against DR/C and D drivers, none of this B/S bs. P4 . Took me a while to find... I was looking for my starting position at the back of the grid!

There is something amiss with the track limits at LaCroix. Whilst it is nice to be able to brush a wall and just loose the time you loose from the deceleration of the event and not an added penalty too, T1 is... yeh, I should have gotten a penalty for the **** I pulled to take P3. Wheels fully on the green. He went wide enough that I could have passed him anyway, but still.....

I managed the race without having the throttle stick when braking, and the handling of the Supra was the same as it is for qualifying. I had a great dice with a Japanese driver on the last lap. I could see the gap closing on certain corners, like the one entering the bridge and the two after. Sure enough, he passed me exiting the kink of the main strait. I ducked in behind and made sure I accounted for the slip stream so I didn't rear end him on the corner. The chase was on and I didn't fancy my chances, but I was gunna try !

Headed to the final corner I had better speed from the previous corner and caught him. He went wide and I out braked him to get the inside. I waqsn't exactly sure where he was so I didn't get on the throttle when I should have... didn't want to drift out and squash him. He came out slightly ahead, but I was catching! He crossed with me 3/4 overlap behind... so close! I did the "Almost!" post race, and he apologised! I don't know what for... maybe he thought he obstructed me on that final corner? He raced clean.

SR blue and I almost got back the DR I lost from last night's fiasco . Another day above DR 1 .

 

[Grinchhh]

What gave my identity away...the big 6BK plastered across the tail of the car perhaps? I'll keep an eye out for you in future lobbies.

It just might be that xD

 

[Tea_Leaves]

It is noticeable in both presentation videos, an extraordinary rally environment, and as if not enough, in a very recent final, the drivers (16 or 12) made Sardegna. Yes, penalties. and if someone got them, must have to dilute them in time. The brake is there for something, and if by chance, the boost gives more speed (I believe so, as I see in most online users), must know how to brake.

You make valid points. Why not have a (dirt) rally race from time to time. It's a part of the game, featured at finals, 3 tracks and a reasonable number of rally cars. That makes sense.

Although I think you have too much faith in online users. I didn't watch the final but it's not really comparable to your average online daily race. The in-game penalty system is also not used, real racing stewards decide penalties. On top of that, they're professional players who race clean and drive cars nigh on perfectly so not really a fair comparison.

Some other competitive choices for Race B:
Lambo Huracan

Good suggestion, I thought I'd try the Huracan after not liking it for a long while. Instantly knocked off 3/4 of a second so down to 2:09.6 with room to improve. It's not a GT-R so I'll take it.

 

[6BK]

The right hander before the bridge at St. Croix loses me a lot of time and I'm convinced it's because I'm using a controller. I can't get the car far over to the left enough to get a good angle to go on to the bridge. The car just doesn't steer the way it does in Firestorm's video. I drive for Nissan in Manufacturer races and it's always been like this for me.

Not sure if this has been answered for you but if you enter the left hander which is the end of the esses at the correct angle you don't actually need to get the car over to the left because you'll already be there. I use the Nissan too. You're probably 3 seconds quicker than me and doing it better already but here's my tuppence:

Entering the esses you go over a crest. There's a red-white rumble on the left (white pick-up truck parked there). The esses are still blind to you but you start to line up here. As you hit the start of that rumble in 5th gear flat out turn to cross the track and the rumble on the right will appear over the crest. Ease off gas slightly as you turn onto the rumble, still in 5th but about 50-75% gas. You won't need to brake if you ease the acceleration. Clip the rumble on your right and now aim (don't over react - just straighten the car up and it will veer over) for the one on the left side of the track dropping to 4th as you cross the track...still without braking. Hit this very tight and dab the brake as you hit the paint while holding about 50% gas to take the speed out a little. When you exit the left and last turn of the esses you'll find yourself on the left side of the track before the bridge so no need to correct the line. Now you can brake, drop to 3rd and cut tight to the right entry of the bridge (over the rumble on the right) allowing the car the full width of the bridge to accelerate and drift out to the left just as the metal barrier on the left kinds out (and the track "bumps").

 

[05XR8]

Lowered my Qualy by 0.1. This thing is smooth.

Overtook the R8 on the last lap, as I had a better exit out of the Bidet right-hander. Juked right, before the kink, to force the R8 to take the inside line into the braking area, I stayed outside with more momentum for a gap to the finish.

 

[The_Tullster]

The second race below(with video) was awesome. I was fortunate to have a few courteous players. Check the finish time. Also, the video shows me ahead, but the places swapped after we crossed the line. Maybe finish was awarded alphabetically?

Variations in ping. What the server sees is slightly different to what you see due to differences in time for position updates to arrive both at the server and at your system. If all three cars were exactly equal on your screen, final positions would be decided by lag. You're in AU so probably 3 yellow bars, the Japanese drivers probably four or five green. In a finish like this it'll likely give them a slight advantage.