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The_Tullster
With BoP and fixed suspension settings, I think it would just be frustrating having more info. If suspension tuning were allowed, having just tyre temp would not be enough. GT Legends gave outside, middle and inside temps which allowed you to adjust camber and pressure to suit. Once you got that right, you moved on to diff, sway bar, ride height and damping settings. Then rinse and repeat, 'cause every setting adjusted the temp balance across the tyre.
If you like tinkering with tuning settings (and wheel / pedal settings), have a gaming PC and you can find a copy of GT Legends, you'll be happy for months :crazy: :irked: :lol:
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I'm planning to go back to iRacing for all the setup stuff.

I'm just interested in improving as a driver here, so understanding how my driving style is effecting tyres would be interesting/helpful - so I can adjust and learn as necessary. Certainly just for learning about what the hell is going on with the tyres at the start at least!

But yeah, I appreciate GT Sport isn't that level of sim - just would be nice, the more info the better!
 
Sven Jurgens
It wasn't a pass attempt. I wanted to make sure to clear the Argentinian that had given me trouble before, yet the car in front started braking a tiny bit early. It was avoiding the car in front while making sure not to get the car behind on my inside to have me end up in the wall. It worked :)
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Sven, when you get to Valhalla (or wherever you're going) they're going to find written on your soul in big, red fiery letters: "SVEN JURGENS - KING OF THE NURB'"
 
For anyone suffering from loss of grip between Gr.3 Quali and Race try using the warm up session and keep all your inputs smooth. When I have trouble I go to Arcade > Custom Race and set up an identical race with BoP and AI Professional, it is a good way to improve racecraft.

After a decent Custom Race practice session, I had a great recovery race in the lobby despite being punted by a Russian on a jerky controller. Clean race for me and a level up in SR.
 
jAMPiRATE
I'm planning to go back to iRacing for all the setup stuff.

I'm just interested in improving as a driver here, so understanding how my driving style is effecting tyres would be interesting/helpful - so I can adjust and learn as necessary. Certainly just for learning about what the hell is going on with the tyres at the start at least!

But yeah, I appreciate GT Sport isn't that level of sim - just would be nice, the more info the better!
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I would love more info to see what effect different lines have on the tires. Where kerbs help or hurt in the long run. What brake balance actually does to the tires. It's all guess work with nothing more to go on than a bit of red on the tire display.

Good start this morning, mixed lobby, full room. I started 14th of 19 in a room going down to SR.E, finished 4th with CRB :)
Next one up, starting 9th of 11th, enough SR.S showed up to make a 'decent' small room.
 
peppermint430
RBR could have been less of a disaster if it was 10+ laps and required a pit. but a short race, everyone wants to just ram their way to the front. punt the pole sitter on turn 1, cop your 3 sec penalty, who cares, but the biggest threat is now at the back of the field. pretty good pay off for only 3-5sec penalty. honestly it is infuriating but it works for the perpetrators.
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just thought i would quote myself here because i did exactly this to someone today at interlagos.
 
GT5Power
I can verify this too. I've been doing race B on my alt without qualy and I was in the 911 for most of my races yesterday. There was one race where the car just locked up in every braking zone throughout the race. On one occasion, smoke came out of the rear wheels when I braked for the Senna S. My best lap in that race was just under 32.5. By comparison, my best race lap overall in the 911 is a 31.374.

That was the only race where I didn't do warmup, and in every race I did after that I made sure to do warmup and I had no issues. I don't know if those things are somehow linked though. Are you guys on pad? I've seen this problem reported by a couple friends that are also on pad, but never by a wheel user. :odd:
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It "feels" (as much as you can feel with the DS4), that the tyre model has changed. I get a sense of overheating the tyres on the GT86 at the 'ring which leads to a reduction of grip but I may be imagining it. Similarly struggling for consistency with the Gr.3 cars - any slide seems to have a knock-on effect now and front end grip seems less predictable.
 
It's definitely different in the race, and it doesn't feel consistent race-to-race either (although maybe that's me changing cars -- I raced with the AMG, the Mustang, the Beetle, and the 911 yesterday).

I also noticed the back-end tires "locking" too, and I've never adjusted the ABS settings. It was especially bad in the 911 yesterday, and especially bad at Senna and in turns 7-11...the back end would swing out under braking in a way that wasn't predictable or comparable to laps run in qualifying. I shifted the BB forward in the cars, too, and it still happened. Weird.


I don't know how much I'll get to race over the next couple of days. I'm a teacher, and my daughter was sick on Monday, and we had a snow day yesterday, so I got a bunch of extra laps in. My wife actually asked me if the game records the amount of time/miles/laps etc for a given day. I lied, of course, haha. I think I'm really going to like SPA with Gr. 4 cars, so I might just hot lap there. I noticed that no one tested the 86 there, haha. That's what I was quick at Big Willow in, but I might have to buy something for this week, since my Gr. 4 stable is pretty small.
 
Invisigoth
Use the Force ;)!
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Re tires squeal equals wear imo. No squeal they last loooong. They love you long time.

Welp, back this morning after the DR reset last night (I rampaged again in the lower rooms) starting ahead of 3 green flags, lap 1 I get a one second track cut, start of lap three punted turn one, but I was smart and just ran straight through and handed out the penalty to him like handing out candy on Halloween.
Score a win for the Stars and Stripes lol
Back to D D now.
I’m not going to stop entering a race on a great track like Interlagos just because of some minor issues on sr.
 
250Cal
It "feels" (as much as you can feel with the DS4), that the tyre model has changed. I get a sense of overheating the tyres on the GT86 at the 'ring which leads to a reduction of grip but I may be imagining it. Similarly struggling for consistency with the Gr.3 cars - any slide seems to have a knock-on effect now and front end grip seems less predictable.
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I think, braking wise, the difference that I see the most seems to be draft/downforce effects. Half a second back I used to brake 15-20 feet early to avoid an unintentional punt. I did that yesterday in a race, and it was like braking on ice. I ended up bouncing the poor guy into the paint but he didnt spin. I let him back by (with the guy behind him) but after that, I've been initially braking about 40 feet early, and rolling into the corner to keep the front planted. Seems the lack of air affects downforce more now. One more reason that I usually pull inside into clean air to brake.
 
I think if someone bangs, the first instinct is to keep on track, but if there’s run out area if you do it quickly running off will give the penalty. Same with wall hit.
I am going to be doing this more going forward.
Also brake checking as well. Braking a bit early will prevent getting punted and only results in sr down. Plus you have the option to run off and give pen.
The way the game is setup these are skills to be learned.
 
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Couple good races down already. I LOVE THE RING! and i don't care who knkws it. Not even gonna do 1 lap on the other races. Seen @Sven Jurgens in each race so far (as is to be expected at the nord lol) he is doing pretty good moving up from the back. Had a chance to run with him in one of the races but i cought a blade of grass under a rear wheel. Always nice to know your out there sir. When your behind i look at the split time a lot to see where i need to improve most, Once you pass i just try to keep up lol
 
I am not experiencing the grip loss in races others are reporting.

had a night where some folks wanted to race clean but don't know how, specifically they don't pick a line and move over just enough to make passing ...well...catastrophic. Had one instance into T1 at interlagos, I got a run the lap before but pulled out, then had a run into T3 but pulled out ... so i was being careful. The again into T1 i had a great run, he took the centre/centre left of the track and I went high, then he moved just that bit to cover me right as I hit the brakes and it was a plane crash. he wasn't being dirty but dude, pick a line.
 
Rexracer702
I think, braking wise, the difference that I see the most seems to be draft/downforce effects. Half a second back I used to brake 15-20 feet early to avoid an unintentional punt. I did that yesterday in a race, and it was like braking on ice. I ended up bouncing the poor guy into the paint but he didnt spin. I let him back by (with the guy behind him) but after that, I've been initially braking about 40 feet early, and rolling into the corner to keep the front planted. Seems the lack of air affects downforce more now. One more reason that I usually pull inside into clean air to brake.
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The mid-engine'd cars now feel much more tricky. Even in quali I've got the Huracan BB set fully forward and the back end is coming around uncontrollably.

It does piss me off that they change the physics in the game without a fully detailed explanation of the what and why, and how it might affect gameplay.
 
250Cal
The mid-engine'd cars now feel much more tricky. Even in quali I've got the Huracan BB set fully forward and the back end is coming around uncontrollably.

It does piss me off that they change the physics in the game without a fully detailed explanation of the what and why, and how it might affect gameplay.
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After driving Lewis’ Merc, every car feels tail happy now, even the most understeery ones. :lol:
 
You know how people get anxious and impatient in the B sprint races? It's even worse after they get held up by a glitched start. I committed the crime of slowing down to not hit the car in front of me, and the green flag guy behind me wasn't having it. :lol:
He smashed through everyone at the first turn and emerged at the front of the pack. :indiff:

Check out the weirdo A+ guy starting in front of me, unqualified. :crazy:
 
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I noticed a big difference in the cars being selected for Interlagos.
Power cars are much more prevalent.
I actually find the cars I use that handling has improved noticeably.
Braking trailing really perfect is big advantage and the cars seem to accept more throttle better on exit.
Default tcs is really responsive and a bit better on partial throttle at least on Stang and Vette gr3. The blipping rate at baby throttle has increased and correctly timed rotates the car really well. Really like it.

I plan to continue working at getting more aggressive and dangerous in terms of being able to hand out penalties.
Gotta be much more aggressive overall.
 
GT5Power
I can verify this too. I've been doing race B on my alt without qualy and I was in the 911 for most of my races yesterday. There was one race where the car just locked up in every braking zone throughout the race. On one occasion, smoke came out of the rear wheels when I braked for the Senna S. My best lap in that race was just under 32.5. By comparison, my best race lap overall in the 911 is a 31.374.

That was the only race where I didn't do warmup, and in every race I did after that I made sure to do warmup and I had no issues. I don't know if those things are somehow linked though. Are you guys on pad? I've seen this problem reported by a couple friends that are also on pad, but never by a wheel user. :odd:
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I'm on a wheel, the steering was so light compared to normal that if I compared it to real life, it was like turning the wheel on a very frosty road. Hardly anything coming through the FFB at all. As I said, I'd driven the Lambo in lobbies at Interlagos last week practicing for the Nations on hard tyres (munched through it's mediums way too quick!) and had no such issues despite a full fuel tank. Maybe they altered the physics a little with the Hamilton update, maybe it's the time of day of the race and it's just cold!!

I'll try the warm up before my next one tomorrow and see if it makes any difference, but I was surprised at the lack of Huracans in the race seeing as it's so quick around the lap


Pigems
After driving Lewis’ Merc, every car feels tail happy now, even the most understeery ones. :lol:
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I now know why his team mates can't get near him if that's how he likes his car to behave!
 
Adam Barber
First day racing after a week and my SR has gone from S to C all through no fault of my own :banghead:🤬. Any advice and hopefully the FIA Manufacturers race should help aswell.
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The only foolproof way to raise the SR is to sacrifice the DR by cruising around at the back of C races. You may get a clean race while racing hard and mixing it up with the other cars, but your fate is not entirely in your hands.
 
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