"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[williams_v_r]

Race C
A bolivian guy is blocking and crush anybody to win positions

 

[250Cal]

I never wanted to do this, but today I connected my PS4 with my YT-Account to upload a replay. Some guy in a Mégane destroyed my and other peoples race. In lap 2 (shortly before he quit) before he got to serve his penalties for the first time, he had already accumulated 8.5 seconds. My door number was one, and I was happy to finish at least 6th (despite being victim of another accident in lap 4).

This race could've been my teleportation to DR-B. Oh well..

Clearly that person held you and the Huracan responsible for ruining his race and sought revenge.

 

[Invisigoth]

Clearly that person held you and the Huracan responsible for ruining his race and sought revenge.

It's all @sturk0167 's fault!

Just waiting for the clock to tick over to open the race entry. Cut a second off my Aston time with the Lexus... I needed to back off the TCS to free up the rear. Millage Exchange brought out a bright green metallic, so that's my base for tonight with yellow kangaroos ... I think i went overboard with the roos .

 

[gthelmi2398]

Not wholly, no - you just need to understand how you gain and lose DR, and how it relates.

In essence, you gain DR from every car you finish ahead of, and lose it to every car you finish behind. However it isn't a set amount, it's proportional to the difference in your DR scores. That means you gain more if you finish ahead of someone whose DR is higher than yours, and lose more if you finish behind someone whose DR is lower than yours.

The door number definitely does indicate your DR rank among the lobby, but it's ranked alphabetically. That means that someone with a DR of 9 will be ranked higher than someone with a DR of 10,000.

Once you get into DR B and above - that's 10,000pt and above - alphabetical sorting becomes irrelevant; everyone has five-figure DRs, so alphabetical and numerical sorting are identical. The door number becomes a cast-iron DR ranking. However, whether you gain or lose DR is still a question of what everyone's score actually is - finishing above your door number is fine, but if you're in an all-B lobby at 27k and all the people who finish in front of you are at 11-12k and all those behind you are at 28k, you're probably going to lose DR; you can't gain much from the 28k drivers, but you will lose a lot to the 11k drivers.

Below DR B, and in mixed fields with drivers below DR B, it becomes an intensely unreliable indicator of anything, because a guy with a DR of 8 or 9 will be driver #1 regardless of any other factor.

Your goal essentially needs to be to finish in the top half of the field (more behind you to gain from, fewer in front of you to lose to), and in DR B or above you'll also want to finish ahead of drivers with a lower door number and not behind drivers with a higher one. In principle you cannot lose DR when you win a race, but there may be an implausible edge case where it might happen (if there's no code to prevent it, which there might be).

Thank you so much for explaining the great mysterium.

 

[beegentoo]

Clearly that person held you and the Huracan responsible for ruining his race and sought revenge.

Well, I let him room after Haug Hook and even had him pass me back, even though he drove into my line. Then he went off track exiting the Mercedes Arena.

Edit: And the rampage he went on with other cars...

 

[ktsbence]

Millage Exchange brought out a bright green metallic, so that's my base for tonight with yellow kangaroos ... I think i went overboard with the roos .

There's no such thing as too many roos

Edit: Something messed up, but I don't know what

Edit: Hah! Fixed it

 

[Mixolydian]

I have this strange experience on Kyoto. In some corners the grip reduces every once in a while and it's random.
This behavior only appears in races, not in quali.
My network seems to be alright. It's kinda rough in race b, maybe more people have the same experience.
It not only ruins my own races, but also others. I don't like to hit others, but it happens and I cannot prevent it under
these circumstances.

Fuji "S" and Furippu-Furoppo seems to be places where it happens most of the times



The day after, the problem was gone for the rest of the week. So, happy racing again!

 

[GTP_TO Blue]

Thank you for the recommendation!
Might give it a try, but I don't think I'll race in B this week, people are being too aggressive. Also I'm enjoying Race C a lot more, and don't want to participate in a Supra and GT-R one make race.
How's the Gr. 4 Genesis?

Haven't done race C, this week yet. Too much fun, and a little anger in race b.

 

[Invisigoth]

Smooooke, from the tyres......and fire from the exauuuuuuuuuust! Another game of ring around the rosies tonight, this time as previously posted, with the Lexus. My 1s faster time had me kinda shocked to start P3 in an all DR/C grid.

Was nice not having to make sudden direction corrections when autodrive disengaged . I managed to negotiate T1 ok. Had a few try to dash ahead, only to have me pass them on the exit.. The RC can turn in quite sharply for T1. The race turned into a bit of a game of car and mouse with the top 4 pulling away from the rest a bit. I was short shifting, and the impression I got was that i should easily be able to do a no stop.

I was mostly in P3 occasionally P4 for the race, but lap 6 or 7 I briefly found myself in P1... I didn't even notice... till the NSX behind me, who seemed prone to sudden lunges, suddenly (no surprise there), cut across in front of me and I noticed my floating name tag said 2. I held on to P2 for a while, but the GT-R behind me rammed me at one of the tight corners and I had to really pull a Hail Mary to stop from ending up in the sand. To his credit he waited behind me. He passed me but then I was in P2 again after people pitted.

Juuust as I was closing in on the end of lap 9, the red fuel light starts flashing.... 0.8 laps left. Nooooooooooooooooo!!!!!! As Rackham Racing team boss, I made an executive decision... keep going! Extreme short shifting, taller gears, coasting... what ever it takes... I'll probably loose 2 or 3 positions, but 🤬 it! From last nights loss I knew I'd be hammered if I pitted. It worked! I dropped to P3, had 0.1 laps left as I went through the chicane, it dropped to 0 laps left as I crossed the line . A 1 stopper only works I think if you go balls to the wall from the start and pull decent gap.

SR blue, DR went up just shy of 900. I goofed the DR lost from my last place finish last night.. it wasn't 900, it was 1.1k . Once again I see the boarder to DR/B, but the guards at the gate are carrying miniguns . Another day on the road of the DR/C journey .

 

[250Cal]

Well, I let him room after Haug Hook and even had him pass me back, even though he drove into my line. Then he went off track exiting the Mercedes Arena.

Edit: And the rampage he went on with other cars...

They'd lost the plot by then and gone full wreckfest.

 

[HammyMansell]

Had a rare morning free, so had a race at Nurb in the Gr4....Got down to a 2:05.0 in qualy, and started 9th in an A/S room!

Lots of battles, close but fairish.....Flat out all the way, pitted for fuel and rubber on lap 5, had to then battle back through the field......2nd place then pitted, and then closed down on first, a Citroen VGT, who's tyres had gone right off, on the last lap, passed them, and took the win.....Beginners luck!

Here's a bit of the post pit stop charge, good fun!

 

[Dairyworker]

Haven't had much time yet this week. 3 race A this morning. Qt got me a third place start for the firts race. Unfortunately i was sloppy and fell down to 7 in that race. I then went and trimmed near .5 from my qt waiting for the next race. Got pole with my new time and went lights to flag for the win. Third race had me in third to start behind two fast and trusted opponents, and another behind me. Was a great race with some really close racing. I got into the lead after a few errors by the leaders on the first two laps. Had a great battle for the last two laps with the guy who started right behind me. We traded the lead a couple times, but he got me in the end. I should have come in second, right on his bumper, but i was a bit heavy footed on the grass out of the chicane and spun myself around. Ended up in 5....

Not a bad way to start the day.

 

[CPT_KOREA_]

Can you maybe explain how exactly does pitting work? Race C, I was 1s ahead of the guy behind me, we pit on the same lap yet he exits with >3s advantage. I thought he hasn't changed his tires but then I checked the replay and he actually did. Does it matter how fast I press the tire change button?

Truth be told I think he would've passed me anyway later on, he was consistently going 0.2-0.3s faster than me but hey, at least give me a chance to defend.

 

[roamingbard13]

Can you maybe explain how exactly does pitting work? Race C, I was 1s ahead of the guy behind me, we pit on the same lap yet he exits with >3s advantage. I thought he hasn't changed his tires but then I checked the replay and he actually did. Does it matter how fast I press the tire change button?

Truth be told I think he would've passed me anyway later on, he was consistently going 0.2-0.3s faster than me but hey, at least give me a chance to defend.

My guess is that you took on more fuel than he did. Running the last FIA race over the weekend, I took a splash of fuel accidentally and it allowed the guy behind me to exit first.

 

[Vegard]

Daily race C

Starts P18, P19 or P20.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Struggling for pace at the ring, high 2.06 in qualy and by lap 2 of the race i really feel the tyre wear, it's just brutal. i do hate the 7 or 8X tyre wear races, sucks the joy out of it.

Since the tyre model changed maybe 6 months ago, the understeer on exit with the controller is just insane, makes it so hard to keep up.

 

[djidane57]

i like managing to improve my qualy time , just to start even further down the grid

 

[meekrab]

Can you maybe explain how exactly does pitting work? Race C, I was 1s ahead of the guy behind me, we pit on the same lap yet he exits with >3s advantage. I thought he hasn't changed his tires but then I checked the replay and he actually did. Does it matter how fast I press the tire change button?

Truth be told I think he would've passed me anyway later on, he was consistently going 0.2-0.3s faster than me but hey, at least give me a chance to defend.

Fuel fills up at 7 "liters" (percent) per second so you apparently added at least 28% more fuel.

 

[sturk0167]

I think more people at race B should consider using traction control. 💡
I just went from 15th to 7th without having to make a legitimate pass.
So many cars are spinning themselves out on corner exit.

 

[Redsea666]

I think more people at race B should consider using traction control. 💡
I just went from 15th to 7th without having to make a legitimate pass.
So many cars are spinning themselves out on corner exit.

Guaranteed 6 ghost cars in front of me in the first lap alone. Problem for me is then I get nervous and spin on lap 2 as all those cars catch me!

 

[roamingbard13]

I think more people at race B should consider using traction control. 💡
I just went from 15th to 7th without having to make a legitimate pass.
So many cars are spinning themselves out on corner exit.

Some of us maybe even need in Race A The Clio has some sneaky oversteer coming out of Lavant Corner that got me a couple times last night. Only really lost it once, but even having to pull off the gas is enough to get you passed by 3-4 cars on that straight!

 

[ktsbence]

Well, I had my fair share of races! I'm only doing Race C this week.
I always started around P8-14 and finished in the top 5.
People are fighting too much and being too aggressive, I got pushed wide (usually at T2) numerous times. I usually just let them go and they'll crash eventually.
Doing one stops in the F-Type and 86 (btw that's an amazing car! Don't know how I haven't tried it out yet) and did one race in the Megane (no stop).
I don't like the Megane around NGP. You just get eaten alive on the straights and other than there, there aren't that many corners where you can pass the other driver cleanly, at least at my DR.
Brakes are surprisingly good, but still I don't like it.
I'll maybe try and do a no stopper in the 86.
In the F-Type it's only possible with extreme fuel saving, so might not want to try it with that car.
I still haven't tried the Lancer, but I'll give it a go tomorrow.
Got my qualy time down to a 2:04:4xx (I believe?) but there was more in it, I was already exhausted. Will try qualy again tomorrow. Who knows, maybe I'll land in the 2:03s (using F-Type as my qualy car).
DR is at a career high 23k

Edit: Added a few sentences.

Edit Nr. 2: I just checked, I did a 2:04.676 which puts me in 291st in EMEA, the highest I've ever been . I did one lap after I set the time above and was up by 0.4 or 0.5 seconds but bottled it on the chicane. 2:03.9-2:04.2 could be achievable .

 

[GTWolverine]

I think more people at race B should consider using traction control. 💡
I just went from 15th to 7th without having to make a legitimate pass.
So many cars are spinning themselves out on corner exit.

That's also been my experience there. It's the only way I can pass the Supra metas in my Corvette!

 

[MaxAttack]

I think more people at race B should consider using traction control. 💡
I just went from 15th to 7th without having to make a legitimate pass.
So many cars are spinning themselves out on corner exit.

I know right? Big boi gains all day in the NSX.

The Dark Souls livery has become more and more appropriate. Spaniards in beetles tryna have a three way battle into the last chicane. Backstabbed by your own countryman! Critical punt! Cursed!

Guys seem to go wide at the left handed after the esses real easy. The NSX just tucks up in there. It's like everybody else is fat rolling.

In fact, yeah, this whole race is like a fight club at pontiff where everybody is fat rolling. People spinning themselves off, I laugh at the fact I blitz by in a black NSX bearing the grim crimson words;

 

[O604]

I think more people at race B should consider using traction control. 💡
I just went from 15th to 7th without having to make a legitimate pass.
So many cars are spinning themselves out on corner exit.

That's not a traction problem. That's lead foot.

Don't expect to trail brake from the minimum baking point every turn like there's no other cars around.

 

[MaxAttack]

That's not a traction problem. That's lead foot.

Don't expect to trail brake from the minimum baking point every turn like there's no other cars around.

Why you would want to try and max out such a nervous car (Supra) in a C rank lobby at a track like this is beyond me. I oversteer the NSX a bit through the first chicane (the left right left after the downhill) frequently but fairly easy to catch. Once the Supras get a sniff of oversteer; sorry mate, back 2 bonfire, git gud

 

[NevilleNobody]

I cannot fathom a 2.04 at the ring, can barely run a 6. All I am getting is chronic, chronic understeer and this is historically my best track.

Just took a look and see my issue, the fastest lap is a SOLID 1sec faster than it was in mid 2018 (last time I ran this race) and i am only 2/10ths quicker. So i am relatively slower.

The Change to a more planted rear end 6 months back has really hurt my relative pace.

 

[sturk0167]

I was already laughing before they got to the chicane, because of course I knew what was gonna happen.
Some people just seem to lose their minds when it's the last turn of the last lap.

 

[Veinz]

I’m over these daily races already.

 

[Deadpool]

I cannot fathom a 2.04 at the ring, can barely run a 6. All I am getting is chronic, chronic understeer and this is historically my best track.

Just took a look and see my issue, the fastest lap is a SOLID 1sec faster than it was in mid 2018 (last time I ran this race) and i am only 2/10ths quicker. So i am relatively slower.

The Change to a more planted rear end 6 months back has really hurt my relative pace.

It’s a technical track, and with the understeer it’s all about finding a balance on the limit and being patient mid corner.

For example. T3-4 going into 4 to see guys try to go flat and sometimes they pull it off but usually they push wide off track. Stay further to the left out of 3 and give yourself a late apex for 4 with a tiny split second lift before flooring it.

For the hairpin I do a late apex which is easy on tires and gives a great run up the hill. The top of the hill sector is also key. Lot of time can be found in the chicane but risk of penalty.