Definition of Rice...A rant... :(

[ShobThaBob]

I often call things "ricey" based on how tasteful I think the exterior modifications are - but the most true and important definition of rice (mine at least) is Misbadging. Putting stickers or badges on your car to make it look like something it isnt - things like Type R stickers, a Cobra emblem on a V6 or GT mustang etc.

 

[JCE]

things like Type R stickers, a Cobra emblem on a V6 or GT mustang etc.

That **** is like a disease here...every white teenager's V6 mustang has fake 16" Cobra replica wheels, dual exhaust that's just a copy of the left exhaust pipe pointing at the ground on the right side, and putting the "GT" badge on the trunk lid or sides of the cars but neglecting to add the GT front end with the factory fog lights. Oh and the puny sound of the V6 gives the whole car away regardless of how far the exterior conversions go.

OH GOD don't get me started on the Type-R or Turbo stickers...or the idiots that put the GSX badge on a stock Eclipse...give me a freaking break. This stuff as a car enthusiast does bother me personally...it ruins my driving experience when these teenagers drive these cars--and try to race everyone at the red light.

 

[VIPFREAK]

6" tach with giant shift light on an automatic-trans car (often they're not even hooked up, since I can read them from MY car following behind, I can tell)

Oh ****... Really?!

So based on what you guys are saying my truck is rice.

Since it's American no... if it had a "R" sticker then yes. Honestly I'd say it sounds like a typical white guy truck.

 

[TheCracker]

I suppose the definition of 'rice' means different things to different people. For me any car with 'unnescesary' modifications, whether its a Vauxhall Corsa with a huge tailpipe and a set of IS200 style rear lights or a Supra with a full Vailside body kit and 1000bhp under the bonnet its still rice to me.

 

[bleurabbit7]

Why is a ground kit, altezza lights and such items considered RICE to some people? People like to be different and be recognized with style. I'm sure a lot of you guys think my car is RICE. I have a Rabbit convertible with a Corrado ground kit, clear tails and front corners, single wiper conversion, exhaust, and stiffened suspension. I get sooooo many compliments about it. No-one has ever said "Man that looks RICEY". I make my car look good. I don't brag about my car being fast or have stickers that say I have this and that when I don't. Once I finish it, it'll be a show car. No RICE intended.

 

[TheCracker]

Theres nothing different about 'Altezza' lights - everyone who tries to be 'different' uses them.

 

[///M-Spec]

McLaren F1GTR raises a fine point. Sometimes a car may appear to be, at first glance, riced out, BUT may in fact be sporting some real hardware under the hood.

But for every car that has the muscle to back up the look, there are 20 posuers out there making him look bad.

I can usually spot the difference between a "for show" and a "for go" car. The fast ones usually don't have a wing. Or stickers. In fact, the fast ones are usually pretty unassuming. Maybe one or two appearance items and the rest is well done.

What I really don't understand is the recent trend in here in the States towards JDM everything. The real nutsos go as far as the right hand drive conversion. I really can't fathom a bigger waste of time and money. But hey; it's not my time and it's not my money, so....

Oh yeah, and the giant shift lights that Duke mentioned really crack me up. For some reason everytime I see one, I imagine that 90s rapper Flava Flav wearing one around his neck. "Slooooww??? Awww yeaaaaaa!"


M

 

[bleurabbit7]

Oh yeah, and the giant shift lights that Duke mentioned really crack me up. For some reason everytime I see one, I imagine that 90s rapper Flava Flav wearing one around his neck. "Slooooww??? Awww yeaaaaaa!"

 

[///M-Spec]

I guess I should amend that they are giant round tachs w/ integrated shift lights.


M

 

[TheCracker]

I can usually spot the difference between a "for show" and a "for go" car. The fast ones usually don't have a wing. Or stickers. In fact, the fast ones are usually pretty unassuming. Maybe one or two appearance items and the rest is well done.

Do the "for go" cars really need any kind of wing or body kit though? - does a Veilside kit add anything to a car other than weight?

 

[bleurabbit7]

Do the "for go" cars really need any kind of wing or body kit though? - does a Veilside kit add anything to a car other than weight?

The Veilside kit does make a difference. I'm not sure of what material it's made from, but it is a weight reduction.

My kit for instance is fibreglass and uses alot less metal. I've probably lost at least 80 lbs with it. So it does have an advantage.

 

[Famine]

A WHOLE 80lb? From a 2500lb car?

Out of interest, when you say you've "lost" 80lb, have you actually cut chunks off your car and replaced them with fibreglass, literally taking weight off, or is the fibreglass stuck on to the structure of the car, so you've "saved" weight in that the kit is fibreglass not metal when really it's extra weight?


Oh, and if you add so much as 2 square feet to the frontal area of your car (that's a 6 inch high bumper extension on the front of your car - so not hard) you increase the drag on it at 135mph by nearly 60lb...

 

[Evolution.]

This is my definition of rice/ricer

Rice (noun)-Any ridiculous looking modification that mocks a sad attempt to make a car look fast,wheteher it is or not.

1.Ricer (noun)-A person that applies ridiculous modifications i.e:huge wing,ridiculous body kits,non-functioning hood scoops,stickers etc. to make their car look fast or look like a "tuner".

2.Ricer (noun)-A car that has many untastefully applied appearance modifications like stickers,wings,body kits,oversized rims and insanely low ground clearance on it.

I don't care whether a Corolla has 200 horsepower or 2000 horsepower,if it has a primered,ugly body kit,an oversized wing,stickers all over (unsponsored stickers) and a bunch of other crap like oversized wheels,it is rice in my book.


Just visit http://www.anti-rice.com and their forums (which I am a member of) for great examples of rice.

 

[TheCracker]

The Veilside kit does make a difference. I'm not sure of what material it's made from, but it is a weight reduction.

i was talking 'aerodynamically' really. Whilst losing a few pounds might make a slight difference to acceleration, the extra drag from a body kit will reduce top speed.

My kit for instance is fibreglass and uses alot less metal. I've probably lost at least 80 lbs with it. So it does have an advantage.

what metal does it replace?

 

[///M-Spec]

Do the "for go" cars really need any kind of wing or body kit though? - does a Veilside kit add anything to a car other than weight?

Well, the mods I'm thinking of when I wrote my original post are the sutble appearance only mods that find their way on even the most tastefully done cars. Items like:

-Rear "lip spoilers", like the factory M3 item glued on the trunk
-Carbon fiber front splitters (sometimes these items are actually functional)
-Big brake kit
-Aftermarket exterior mirrors, usually with an LED lighting element
-Aftermarket or "JDM" or "Euro" tail light cluster
-Windshield banner; usually of the local speed shop, though I love seeing the "Tire Rack" ones because only a true track/auto-x slut would keep the banner on his/her daily driver
-Aluminum/CFP/titanium pedal kit

None of these items, not even a typical big brake kit (!) offers any performance improvement, but a lot of people who have decidedly non-ricey cars have them. I consider these items pretty harmless... though the brake kits do top my list of poor bang/buck mods that people do.


M

 

[High-Test]

There's a Ford Taurus here with the Taurus tuner banner on the windshield, with huge rims and a Chevy power front liscense plate. No joke! Definately rice. For me, the Windshield banner is what gives away a "ricer".

 

[McLaren]

This is my definition of rice/ricer

Rice (noun)-Any ridiculous looking modification that mocks a sad attempt to make a car look fast,wheteher it is or not.

1.Ricer (noun)-A person that applies ridiculous modifications i.e:huge wing,ridiculous body kits,non-functioning hood scoops,stickers etc. to make their car look fast or look like a "tuner".

2.Ricer (noun)-A car that has many untastefully applied appearance modifications like stickers,wings,body kits,oversized rims and insanely low ground clearance on it.

I don't care whether a Corolla has 200 horsepower or 2000 horsepower,if it has a primered,ugly body kit,an oversized wing,stickers all over (unsponsored stickers) and a bunch of other crap like oversized wheels,it is rice in my book.


Just visit http://www.anti-rice.com and their forums (which I am a member of) for great examples of rice.

Alot of the cars are 99%, but there are a few that aren't.

 

[animateria]

Just watch the Scion comercial with the two xAs... I think the attitudes that the drivers have are a bit different... The guy with the grey one is about just some cool looks while the guy with the orange one with the carbonfiber hood.. is about looking fast even with extremely useless parts...

The second guy is a 100% ricer while the first guy is just tacking on some minor parts that he thinks looks good on his car (well from what I remember at least)...

 

[bleurabbit7]

A WHOLE 80lb? From a 2500lb car?

Out of interest, when you say you've "lost" 80lb, have you actually cut chunks off your car and replaced them with fibreglass, literally taking weight off, or is the fibreglass stuck on to the structure of the car, so you've "saved" weight in that the kit is fibreglass not metal when really it's extra weight?


Oh, and if you add so much as 2 square feet to the frontal area of your car (that's a 6 inch high bumper extension on the front of your car - so not hard) you increase the drag on it at 135mph by nearly 60lb...

For your information, NO I didn't CUT chunks off the car. I didn't cut anything off of it. The original bumpers had a mass amount of metal under the bumper covering. For all I know it could have been more than 80lbs. I didn't weight them.
The entire bumper was removed with the fibreglass bumper (with a smaller metal rebar) taking it's place so NO it isn't STUCK on the the car and NO it isn't extra weight. It is bolted to the frame as the original was.
And who said I had 2 square feet of added frontal area. It's no bigger then the original one. Differently shaped, yes.

 

[standard235]

Well, sometimes, like how Saleen does it, it is stuck on. The fascias and skirts and adhered to the original.

That way does cut off weight. The way you did it.

The other doesn't

Anyways, I am not going to input my idea of rice because I don't want to read all the bullcrap.

Someone siad something along the lines if the car even had 800hp and primered body, big wing, etc.

Lemme say something. I would just LAUGH IN YOUR FACE. I wouldn't care how my car looks as it isn't like it is for show.

 

[VIPFREAK]

For your information, NO I didn't CUT chunks off the car. I didn't cut anything off of it. The original bumpers had a mass amount of metal under the bumper covering. For all I know it could have been more than 80lbs. I didn't weight them.
The entire bumper was removed with the fibreglass bumper (with a smaller metal rebar) taking it's place so NO it isn't STUCK on the the car and NO it isn't extra weight. It is bolted to the frame as the original was.
And who said I had 2 square feet of added frontal area. It's no bigger then the original one. Differently shaped, yes.

Umm... I'm pretty sure ALL the stuff inside the bumper is there for a reason, just like seatbelts and airbags.

 

[bleurabbit7]

True. But the protection is still there.

But whether it's the original or the aftermarket bumper, if I rear end someone or have a head-on accident, the car will be totaled. It's a small car with no chance against these lard ass huge vehicles out today.

 

[a6m5]

I hope your insurance company never finds out, that you removed an OEM bumper. They will either dump you(99% chance), or they'll increase your premium by 1000%.

 

[toyomatt84]

I don't care what anybody says: even if you have 1000hp at the wheels and can run a 7 sec. quarter mile, but yet your car looks like this...

...it's rice beyond a doubt. Rice is the addition of useless cosmetic add-ons that will neither help performance, nor strengthen any of the car's original good quality looks. I actually can tell that adding all that garbage lessened the performance of a vehicle like that, due to the A)added weight, B)weaker exterior (fiberglass bumpers are extremely weak), and C) bad aerodynamics.

END OF DISCUSSION!

 

[High-Test]

I don't care what anybody says: even if you have 1000hp at the wheels and can run a 7 sec. quarter mile, but yet your car looks like this...

...it's rice beyond a doubt. Rice is the addition of useless cosmetic add-ons that will neither help performance, nor strengthen any of the car's original good quality looks. I actually can tell that adding all that garbage lessened the performance of a vehicle like that, due to the A)added weight, B)weaker exterior (fiberglass bumpers are extremely weak), and C) bad aerodynamics.

END OF DISCUSSION!

What is it??

 

[Joey D]

I don't understand where most of you are coming from, so people should have identical looking cars with different engines? That's boring. Custom lighting, sound systems, paint, wheels, they all add to your style of the car.

I would much rather have a car that looks cool then goes fast, since for one I can't afford a ticket and two why do you need something fast any ways? You can go what 75-80 safely and legally on a highway. Every car, at least in the US, on the market today can get up to at least 70. That it all you need. So I would much rather have a nicer looking car with my own style then something that will do 200 mph.

 

[McLaren]

What is it??

I heard it used to be an old Ford Mustang.

 

[Duke]

Every car, at least in the US, on the market today can get up to at least 70. That it all you need. So I would much rather have a nicer looking car with my own style then something that will do 200 mph.

The problem is "nicer looking" and "my own style" so rarely go together. I mean, yes, it's that guy's car, but it's so horrible that I can't possibly imagine how he thinks it looks better.

There's what would be a nice last-gen 240SX that parks near my house. Except it has a wing on the back that looks like it was stolen off the helmet of a bad guy in the Power Rangers, and a horrible widemouth front kit that shows the ends of the subframe crossmembers and the sides of the parking lights (normally nicely integrated into the stock bumper) etc. etc. That's why we're dragging "questionable mods" into this conversation. It's like going to a nice party in a pink tux with a ruffleed shirt. There's style, and then there's tasteless.

 

[Famine]

For your information, NO I didn't CUT chunks off the car. I didn't cut anything off of it. The original bumpers had a mass amount of metal under the bumper covering. For all I know it could have been more than 80lbs. I didn't weight them.

Which generation of Golf/Rabbit was it? I've never come across a car with "a mass amount of metal" inside the bumpers.

And who said I had 2 square feet of added frontal area. It's no bigger then the original one. Differently shaped, yes.

Nobody did. I was adding a hypothetical, "for your information", hence the large "If" at the start of the sentence.

 

[Drifting Thunda]

Rice is a car that is modified to look way faster than it is. That's what it has always been.

About crappy-looking fast cars, I'm not a fan of fast **** boxes, but to each their own, I don't bug them about it.

What is it??

It is in fact a fox body Ford Mustang. -WAS- I should say.