DFGT and RWD problems - Need Drifting Tips

  • Thread starter Thread starter s15specr
  • 151 comments
  • 13,354 views
Leonidae
er.. it has 50/50 weight distribution under acceleration, but otherwise it's slightly nose heavy.
Click to expand...

I stand corrected, thought I had read that the 1 series was 50:50 and this was its big advantage over its cheaper family car bretheren.
 
in some BMW's 50/50 is true when car is stationary. But I believe that 50/50 is more useful when the car is moving. But, each to their own. I just wish that the 3-door 130i hatch would be in the game as well.
 
oh I almost forgot what should i have the wheel settings on?? I have power stering on and the ffb is on 9. Thanks
 
Last edited:
s15specr
oh I almost forgot what should i have the wheel settings on?? I have power steering on and the ffb is on 9. Thanks
Click to expand...

Force feedback strength is mostly a matter of taste, but set the wheel on simulation and power steering off.
If you have never driven a car in real life, it's difficult to understand what you feel through the wheel. You're just gonna have to keep practicing.

EDIT: Are you trying to race or drift?
 
Last edited:
I read somewhere on here a long time ago

To drive a RWD, think of it like this:

put a big bowl on your head and a tennis ball in it. Applied to racing, you must be smooth without sudden bursts of great movement or else the ball will fly off

Keeping this in mind helps me quite a bit even though I'm going full-thottle sideways most of the time :sly:

But good luck on you way to RWD mastery; you will be greatly rewarded in the end 👍
 
Hi s15specr!
First, you have got a great wheel now, and of course, it takes quite few laps to tame it especially if you are former pad user. I had DFP earlier and I loved it but DFGT is much much better. And now the advice part (speaking of my experiences) :)
Sometimes the throttle oversteer correction (TVR warning :nervous: )must be lightning fast and sharp but not too wide of a movement. And especially this type of a situation is like made for DFGT because it is so smooth and lets you correct with ease. My old DFP just couldn't handle those situations and started to make strange noises so I had always be careful with it, not nice at all.
Last I would say, relax your wrists, learn the driving lines and let the car go where it wants to go. :)
 
this is no longer much of a problem now! i've been practicing and looking at replays of time trials and i know where i have been going wrong. I have been putting the car on full throttle while turning. When looking at replays i saw even the fastest drivers were only on 3/4 throttle while cornering. I did a lap time of 2'00.19 on Fuji GT with the 350Z- is that an ok time??

And yeah GordonS the DFGT is a great wheel, I love it.
 
I was thinking you were having more of a pedal problem than wheel problem. It will take a bit of time, but eventually you will relate tire noise, with visual yaw, the feel you get from the wheel and how much throttle and or brake you use. And notice that most of the fastest guy's use left foot braking which allows you to use throttle and brake at the same time. This technique can really help balance the car in a turn.
Check the online TT to see how you're doing.
 
Leonidae
in some BMW's 50/50 is true when car is stationary. But I believe that 50/50 is more useful when the car is moving. But, each to their own. I just wish that the 3-door 130i hatch would be in the game as well.
Click to expand...

When Car is stationary, or car is moving, its same distribution. Distribution changes when car is not at constant, meaing while braking, accelerating, or turning ;)

Besides I won't recommend to practice with 1 series.. I always find the car to fish tail much. TVR is much more stable car IMO.

Am I only one to think The TVR speed SIX is one of the better handling cars in the game? :D haha!

Once you move to Ford GT, GOOD LUCK! Tough cookie, but really rewarding and best car in the game to have fun with while going for a win.
 
NoxNoctis Umbra
When Car is stationary, or car is moving, its same distribution. Distribution changes when car is not at constant, meaing while braking, accelerating, or turning ;)

Besides I won't recommend to practice with 1 series.. I always find the car to fish tail much. TVR is much more stable car IMO.

Am I only one to think The TVR speed SIX is one of the better handling cars in the game? :D haha!

Once you move to Ford GT, GOOD LUCK! Tough cookie, but really rewarding and best car in the game to have fun with while going for a win.
Click to expand...

TVR? Stabile? Do you work for them or something? A light car with too much power for it's own good is anything else but stabile due traction issues. And if you manage to get 135i to fishtail, you, sir, have right foot made out of lead. Or perhaps it's thumb of lead.. 💡 Atleast we agree about Ford GT.. :lol:
 
The best advice I can give is this, "Slow is smooth, smooth is fast". Apply that to GT5p and your troubles should be alleviated. I would suggest once you get the hang of things trying the Elise 111r tuned on Eiger forward. To me that is the best test for honing ones skill.

On a side note: do all comments have to be approved by a mod before they are posted. I have never seen this on a forum. Maybe I did something... even though I just activated my account... I am confused...
 
Haha don't worry...
When I first got my wheel, I was like spinning in every corner..
But after a while, you're able to balance your car a lot better,
and I would never touch a sixaxis again!
 
Zimmerd
Haha don't worry...
When I first got my wheel, I was like spinning in every corner..
But after a while, you're able to balance your car a lot better,
and I would never touch a sixaxis again!
Click to expand...

Dualshock 3 for the win :sly:

Jokes, I have a DFP and got to play GT5P with a DFGT in Japan at the Toyota showroom thingy in Tokyo, really want that wheel now!
 
flubbachany
Dualshock 3 for the win :sly:

Jokes, I have a DFP and got to play GT5P with a DFGT in Japan at the Toyota showroom thingy in Tokyo, really want that wheel now!
Click to expand...

Get one if you can it's great, has the great build quality i was expecting from logitech.

Zimmerd
Haha don't worry...
When I first got my wheel, I was like spinning in every corner..
But after a while, you're able to balance your car a lot better,
and I would never touch a sixaxis again!
Click to expand...

Am automaticly smoother though corners now without thinking about it, guess am getting used to it.

Leonidae
TVR? Stabile? Do you work for them or something? A light car with too much power for it's own good is anything else but stabile due traction issues. And if you manage to get 135i to fishtail, you, sir, have right foot made out of lead. Or perhaps it's thumb of lead.. 💡 Atleast we agree about Ford GT.. :lol:
Click to expand...

Sorry to say this but i was using a 550pp toned-down speed six and it was great with DFGT, I even pulled a semi drift around the spoon corner whcih i couldn't believe.
 
do what most people do. Do 10 laps at suz in a rwd car and sooner oor later you will master it
 
s15specr
Sorry to say this but i was using a 550pp toned-down speed six and it was great with DFGT, I even pulled a semi drift around the spoon corner whcih i couldn't believe.
Click to expand...

Well, to be honest downgrading any TVR is like cutting the balls of a fighting bull. Really, some things shouldn't be touched..
Anyway, nice to see you advance already.. Just wait for GT5 and the infernal yellow little bird :trouble:
 
GordonS
Well, to be honest downgrading any TVR is like cutting the balls of a fighting bull. Really, some things shouldn't be touched..
Anyway, nice to see you advance already.. Just wait for GT5 and the infernal yellow little bird :trouble:
Click to expand...

is that car going to give me a RUF time ;)
 
Thiis what happens when you get too used to driving a car that basically drives its self, keep practising, it's not the wheel's fault.
 
No46_TheDoctor
Thiis what happens when you get too used to driving a car that basically drives its self, keep practising, it's not the wheel's fault.
Click to expand...

yeah but theres still something i can't do at all, and thats if the back end starts to slide out what do i do??
 
ease off throttle and countersteer as the weight shifts forwards. be ready to get back on throttle, otherwise snapback is inevitable.:scared:
 
s15specr
yeah but theres still something i can't do at all, and thats if the back end starts to slide out what do i do??
Click to expand...

Go to the Racing School thread and watch the video's. They explain why it happens and what to do in each sitution. Link in my sig.
 
Last edited:
Funny thing is I never had problems like this, i personally would say grab a perfect feel for the car its tough sometimes but you will get there some time, ive tamed my arch enemy the Ford GT down :P, but one thing ive noticed with some people is that they always want more speed in corners and when exiting they just apply 100% throttle you need to easily do it especially when its some maniac powered car like the F40 or GT.
BTW; How long have you been playing GT games for, Iam 16 too ATM but ive played GT2 since 2000 before i even turned 8 and I remember loving every minute of it I got my cousin some I-A tests done even tho he was 13 at the time :P.
And something ive noticed i know its not related but my younger relatives, brother cousins etc non of them seem to be able to grasp what me and another of my relatives were doing when we were 8, my brother struggles to keep the car straight on a straight line even tho he is 8 now is it just a lack of interest these days :D or have people just got crapier at driving games and better at FPs's?
 
i've been playing gt since gt2 in 2000 as well! I've only been using a wheel for 6 days though, but i just want to make sure am doing the right thing while practicing.
 
Dude it takes some people agggggges to get hang on a wheel. Keep at it.

And today there was a video loaded up about drifting on drivers-republic: Click Here

If you dont want to drift and just want to sense the slide coming, make sure you have your ForceFeedback turned up. Make sure your fast with your hands to corrcet / catch the slide on the way round. Make sure your throttle inputs are smooth, dont just jump on the gas or just let off. Dont over correct or under correct. All of these are easier said than done mind.

Once you have all of these down, you will be able to drift / catch a slide when unexpected.

Keep your head up and keep practicing.
 
Jack
Dude it takes some people agggggges to get hang on a wheel. Keep at it.

And today there was a video loaded up about drifting on drivers-republic: Click Here

If you dont want to drift and just want to sense the slide coming, make sure you have your ForceFeedback turned up. Make sure your fast with your hands to corrcet / catch the slide on the way round. Make sure your throttle inputs are smooth, dont just jump on the gas or just let off. Dont over correct or under correct. All of these are easier said than done mind.

Once you have all of these down, you will be able to drift / catch a slide when unexpected.

Keep your head up and keep practicing.
Click to expand...

Thanks, nice video. Looking at it, I think am fast enough at putting the thottle on just not fast enough at counter steering.

Edit: just done as the guy said on the video in am m3 adn the cars just spinning the same direction as the corner, it much be gt5p's fault because am not doing anything wrong
 
Last edited:
Have you tired playing with your Steering Angle? Bigger the number number the wider range of movement...

Or... the sensitivity of the wheel? Not sure if this is an opition but worth a look at!

You might just need quicker hands at the end of the day.
 
Sometimes you need to aid the wheel at turning. The maximum rotating speed of the DFGT is slower than that of a G25 from what I've seen on videos (I have a DFGT), so if the wheel doesnt turn fast enough by itself when you make the rear come out, then help it out with your hands.
 

Latest Posts

Back