I dunno... How long is a reasonable time to do ANYTHING? Depends more on how much you want it than how long it actually takes. I wanted the game save unprotected. Got what I wanted, but it STILL felt like forever!
Well since this is not something as nebulous as that, I would argue a reasonable amount of time is somewhere around how long it takes other competitive products to accomplish the same thing.
That being said, PD is WAY behind on it...
So basically what I am getting at is that a reasonable time is long past and the idea that it's reasonable to wait MORE time (as if this is a new issue that they only probably just found out about and started working on so today is day 1 or something) is literally like saying you should give your contracter more time to put the light plates on your switches 2 years after you have moved into your house...
There is no more reasonable time... reasonable time was during the build process, we have exceeded that and are now several patches deep and they haven't even unbroken the thing they broke since GT5 let alone un blocked the thing they blocked.
I'll be interested in how many Illuminati addicts are going to retract their words when the support for the G27 finally (eventually) arrives. Somehow, I don't think too many will step up to the mea culpa plate.
Some people said the same thing about when damage finally was going to get patched into GT5P...
And if anything it would be a win if people recognizing this negative action made PD reconsider and fix the issue to avoid the bad rep.
As it is a patch to fix G27 support is anything but a certainty. Again I remind you the closest thing we have to confirmation is Kaz saying he would like to get it working in the future sometime.
In PD terms that's about the equivalent of "we cannot confirm any plans to do so at this time."
I simply don't see how anyone can connect this with a peripheral that cost TWICE as much. I'd be a LOT more inclined to agree if Thrustmaster had an officially supported wheel in the same price range as the G27. But TWICE AS MUCH? Maybe I'm not a marketing major, but that just seems too much of a stretch.
Simpe: It's a device with nearly identical functionality.
I can easily see the similarity between a Toyota and a Lexus even though the Lexus infallibly costs much more.
And I would probably get the Toyota unless it turned out Toyota decided this year to stop making it possible to put an AC in any Toyotas, stop making it possible to put an automatic gearbox in any Toyotas and stop putting automatic windows in any Toyotas.
If that happened, one would be far more likely to splurge on the Lexus to avoid the artificial limitations of the Toyota despite the price don't you think? (obviously ignore the fact that in the car industry there are hundreds of competitors to choose from since that's not true for wheels).
You literally don't have to look far to see people already saying "what?" This costs way more than a G27 and doesn't even come with a shifter? Why would I pay that?". Comparing the two is exactly what's going to happen.
Heck even the DFGT is compared to the G27 when people go shopping for wheels and the difference is far larger there.
The fact the price is twice as much is a huge reason TO compare them... I mean if you can literally get almost the same functionality at less than half the price wouldn't you be interested in it and start comparing?
Let's say I took the G25 and the G27, the are comparable products right?
Now lets' say I jack the price of the G27 up to $800.
Did the products just change all of a sudden? No, they are still comparable products, however now the G25 is CLEARLY the better value. Price does not change whether two things are comparable, it changes their relative values and what PD seems to have done is artificially devalued the product they don't want to sell so favor falls on their product. PD can't force the G27 to cost way more than the T500 (which would make the T500 the better value) but they can do things (within limits) to reduce the value of the G27 to make the T500 relatively gain value).
If I can break some small parts of the G25 and make it a little annoying to use, I potentially shift some buyers away from it who are willing to part with more money if "that's what it takes" to get the full functionality of the G27. Same thing with G27 and T500.
Time to put the blame squarely where it belongs. Wheel manufacturers. They charge an arm and a leg for them, and then forget to allow for firmware updating. You want a REAL conspiracy, how about a look down THAT path?
That's some of the worst logic I have heard...
So Logitech makes a product that is completely compatible with the PS3 OS and supports all the functions necessary to work, every other game maker utilizes this properly and includes functionality, then PD comes along and breaks functionality by coding their game to NOT work right with this particular wheel and...
It's Logitechs fault.
Really? Are you even listening to what you are saying?
When a programmer makes a program for Windows that doesn't follow standards and crashes all the time and causes your mouse not to work, do you blame Microsoft and your mouse manufacturer for not changing their products around this broken product?
If a tool company starts selling some weird shaped driver that is neither philips nor flathead compatible, do you blame all the screw companies in the world for not making screws that fit that driver?
You do realize don't you that if PD makes a non standard game and logitech updates it's firmware to now work with that nonstandard game, it would probably break functionality with all the other standard games right?