Difficult Car Spotlight - Oullim Motors Spirra

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  1. XS

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    The Oullim Motors Spirra - a car that has been driving tuners crazy since GT4 due to it's unpredictable snap-oversteer. In GT4 and GT5 the snap oversteer occurred sporadically and unpredictably. However, it is a tad bit tamer in GT6 as most of the snap oversteer is limited to throttle lift-off. I tried to give this car a go last night and only found ballast helpful in curing 80 percent of the oversteer. I look forward to some brilliant tunes to tame what can be a blisteringly fast car!

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    History and Background:
    In the mid 1990s Han-chul Kim, a designer at Ssangyong Motors, envisioned a Korean exotic sports car, a sight the world had never seen. Together with his wife he set out to build his vision, a car capable of competing with the world's best supercars of the era. He started out with an all-aluminum tubular sub-frame, to which he built upon an aluminum and carbon fiber body and added American power via the SVT Cobra 4.6L V8. The public first saw the prototype in 2000 at the Seoul Motor Show, however it was another four years later before the world saw a production-ready Spirra at the Beijing Motor Show. The prototype was more markedly different underneath the skin, with Kim changing the sub-frame to a complex aluminum and carbon-fiber piece. Legend has it that Kim managed to build several copies, their whereabouts unknown to this day, before funds dried up and the project seemingly died. For several years Kim struggled to find financiers willing to back his project, until meeting Dong-hyuk Park, the head of the Oullim Network conglomerate. Park, an automotive enthusiast himself wasted no time in acquiring Proto Motors, Kim's company the Spirra was based under, and began production using a Hyundai V6 and an all carbon fiber body. Delivery of the first models took place in 2011, and continue to this day.

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  2. TurnLeft

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    Cool, I`m in on this one, I have already done one but I will make a new one just for this. Is there going to be any restrictions, tire types, tracks, stoppies, wheelies or anything in particular or do we do what we want. Keep me posted please, thanks. (I'll need some time to do this, how much will we be allowed, 2 months?).
     
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    Technically you can take as long as you want, but I'm going to put up another difficult car on May 1st. You can do any type of tune you want, but the overall goal is to make the car enjoyable, and the general consensus is that the oversteer ruins all the fun. The car turns-in very nice but the snap oversteer is quite unpredictable, and annoying.
     
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  4. Woodski_427

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    Looking forward to this. It can be very fast and it will be good to see some stable setups, and if it can be made competitive at a pp level :tup:
     
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  5. DolHaus

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    Wow, I just took the car out in stock form. Its hilarious!
    It just spins every time you touch the steering wheel
     
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  6. TurnLeft

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    You should also try the gas pedal, it gets even better.
     
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  7. xande1959

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    just buy one:tup:
     
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    Oullim Motors Spirra Prototype '04 - 80,000

    Oil Change - 250
    Improve Body Rigidity - 20,000
    Tires: Sports Soft - 9,500
    Height-Adjustable, Fully Customizable Suspension - 18,500
    Racing Brakes - 8,500
    Fully Customizable Dog-Clutch Transmission - 19,000
    Twin-Plate Clutch Kit - 3,200
    Fully Customizable Mechanical Limited Slip Differential - 7,250
    Engine: Stage 1 - 4,750
    Sports Computer - 1,750
    Intake Tuning - 4,600
    Semi-Racing Exhaust - 7,250
    Isometric Exhaust Manifold - 3,200
    Catalytic Converter: Sports - 1,500
    Weight Reduction: Stage 1 - 4,700

    Total Investment - 193,950


    PP: 540
    459 HP @ 6700 RPM
    405LB-FT @ 4700 RPM
    1120 KG
    2.44 KG/HP
    Weight Distribution: 44/56


    Quick Tune Settings (v4.2):

    Suspension Level: 3
    Corner Entry Balance: -2
    Corner Exit Balance: -3
    Base Camber Angle: 0.0
    LSD Strength: 2
    Spread: 100.0%
    Scale: 100.0%


    Ride Height: 107 / 130
    Spring Rate: 8.97 / 10.86
    Dampers (Compression): 7 / 7
    Dampers (Extension): 6 / 8
    Anti-Roll Bars: 5 / 3
    Camber Angle: 0.0 / 0.0
    Toe Angle: 0.13 / 0.64
    Brake Balance: 8 / 2


    Transmission Instructions:

    Set Final Gear to 3.439
    Set Max Speed to 199 MPH (320 KPH)

    1st Gear: 3.324
    2nd Gear: 2.241
    3rd Gear: 1.655
    4th Gear: 1.270
    5th Gear: 1.000
    6th Gear: 0.805
    Final Gear: 3.140


    Initial Torque: - / 16
    Acceleration Sensitivity: - / 24
    Braking Sensitivity: - / 24


    ABS 1, all other aids off.


    I didn't think this car was quite as difficult as the Stratos (possibly because it's not on bicycle tires), but it's still a handful. Feels pretty good on entry now but it can still be a bit snappy on exit. First attempt at the Nordschlife resulted in a 7.22, although I think that can be cleaned up some.
     
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  9. XS

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    Nice picture oppositelock! Can't wait to try it out!!
     
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  10. Woodski_427

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    Well I also tried the stock car and I didn't think it was so bad :lol:. It's nothing like the shocker it was in GT5 - you couldn't get round a corner. OK, you can't be so fast because you are constantly correcting the backend, but the point is that I COULD correct it without too much drama.

    5 (careful) laps of Trial mountain yielded a 1:40.02x with a 6th lap spin as I got confident. I actually found it quite fun, but I think it still it might be tricky to make pp contender.
     
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  11. xande1959

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    - Oullin Motors Spirra Prototype '04 sports:soft / 530 PP
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    - TUNING SHOP
    . Wheels (inch Up 2 / ENKEI RP03)
    . Paint Body ( Azzurro )
    . Paint Wheels ( Ultimate Black Metallic )


    . TIRES ( sports: soft )
    . Suspension kit
    . Brake Kits
    . Transmission ( fully customizable dog-clutch transmission )
    . Triple-plate clutch kit
    . fully customizable mechanical limited slip differential
    . Racing Exhaust
    . SUPERCHARGER
    . Weight Redution ( stage 3 )

    - CURRENT SPECS

    . Displacement = 4,601 cc
    . MAX. POWER = 399 HP /6,300 rpm
    . MAX. TORQUE= 412,1 ft-lb / 4,300 rpm
    . Drivetrain = MR
    . weight = 1,050
    . Power-to weight ratio = 2,63 Kg / HP
    . Front / Rear Weight Distribution = 45 : 55

    - SUSPENSIOM ------------------------------ BRAKE DISCS & CALIPERS


    . 127 (F) ride height (R) 167 ---------------- 6 (F) / (R) 7
    . 8,48 (F) spring rate (R) 11,53
    . 5 (F) Dampers (Comp:) (R) 5
    . 7 (F) Dampers (Ext:) (R) 8
    . 4 (F) Anti-roll bars (R) 5

    . CAMBER ANGLE (-)
    . 0,0 (F) / (R) 0,0

    . TOE ANGLE
    . 0,08 (F) / (R) 0,32

    - TRANSMISSION
    . 310 Km/h
    . Final Gear = 3,340


    . 1ª 2,937
    . 2ª 2,035
    . 3ª 1,546
    . 4ª 1,225
    . 5ª 1,000
    . 6ª 0,807

    - LSD
    . 00 / 09
    . 00 / 11
    . 00 / 10
    - POWER LIMITER 100,0%

    . BALLAST WEIGHT = 26 Kg
    . BALLAST POSITION = -50,0%

    .note : Nordschlife circuit always use for any car, as I said a bit of drift controlled to make up a try after some tweaking 1:17 my time and not oppositelock stratos any better. *** with gross error, but I believe that time can be at 6:59. ***** on the 2nd attempt.:cheers::gtpflag::tup:
     
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  12. Woodski_427

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    This car is growing on me. I made a quick 500pp/SH setup and a few laps of TM gave a 1:34.2xx; still a bit skittish but a fun drive, and I might even post it after a couple of tweaks (nobody has been subjected to one of my tunes before :dopey:). I was looking to attempt a race setup too, but we are no longer allowed to install a giant rear wing :tdown::lol:.

    Due to time constraints, I'm not sure how many tunes I will get to try so I may have to just pick a couple :tup:.
     
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    Yeah I was quite disappointed that we couldn't install the rear wing anymore. Really stupid, especially considering there are a few pictures on the net of Spirras with aftermarket wings installed. :rolleyes:
     
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    I will post mine on Sunday or Monday still need a little bit of bugs to iron out.
     
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    Oullim Motors Spirra Prototype '04

    550PP
    473 BHP
    Weight 1100kgs
    Weight Distribution 47:53

    Sports Soft Tyres

    Inch Up: 1 Wheels
    DO NOT Change Oil


    FC Suspension
    F/R
    125/150
    7.00/11.50
    5/3
    5/5
    4/4
    0.0/0.0
    -0.08/0.16

    Racing Brake Kit
    8/5

    FC Transmission
    Set final gear to 4.500
    Set max speed to 124mph
    1st 2.895
    2nd 2.253
    3rd 1.772
    4th 1.448
    5th 1.224
    6th 1.062
    Set final gear to 2.810

    FC LSD
    10/12/30
    Triple Plate Clutch
    Set power limiter to 96.7%
    Engine Tuning Stage 1
    Sports Computer
    Sports Exhaust
    Isometric Exhaust Manifold
    Catalytic Converter Sports
    Intake Tuning
    Supercharger

    Weight Reduction Stage 3

    Ballast - Set 76kgs to Position -50

    Tuned with TCS 1 and ABS 1 only.

    This car has loads of grip, the rear end will slide a little but very easy to control. You can push it a lot more than you would think before the back end will start to slide.

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    Car:
    Oullim Motors Spirra Prototype '04
    Wheel / Joypad: PS3 controller
    Power:
    350 BHP @ 6300 Rpm / 46.1 kgfm @ 4200 Rpm
    Weight:
    1141 kg
    Performance Points:
    500 PP
    Tires:
    SS
    Weight Distribution: 49:51

    Suspension :
    (Height-Adjustable, Fully-Customisable Suspension)


    Ride Height: Front: 110 Rear: 110
    Spring Rate: Front: 6.10 kg Rear: 8.56 kg
    Dampers (Compression):
    Front: 6 Rear: 6
    Dampers (Extension)
    : Front: 5 Rear: 5
    Anti-Roll Bars: Front: 4 Rear: 6
    Camber Angle (-)
    : Front: 0.0° Rear: 0.0°
    Toe Angle: Front: 0.00° Rear: 0.30°

    Brakes:
    Racing Upgrade F: 6 R: 5

    Drivetrain:
    (Fully Customisable Transmission)


    Set final to 5.000
    Set max to 124
    Set in sequence (6-5-4-3-2-1)
    Set final to 3.300

    Speed: 124 mph

    1:
    2.776
    2:
    2.087
    3:
    1.618
    4:
    1.301
    5:
    1.068
    6: 0.918

    Final:
    3.300

    Differential Gear:
    Fully Customisable Mechanical Limited-Slip Diff

    Initial Torque:
    R= 36
    Acceleration Sensitivity:
    R= 36
    Braking Sensitivity:
    R= 48

    Clutch & Flywheel:
    Twin-Plate
    Propeller Shaft: Standard

    Power


    Oil Change:
    Yes
    Power Limiter: 100%
    Engine Tuning: Standard
    Computer:
    Standard
    Exhaust:
    Standard
    Exhaust Manifold: Standard
    Catalytic Converter:
    Sports
    Intake Tuning:
    Standard
    Turbo Kit: Stage:
    Standard
    Nitrous Oxide (N2O): No

    Body


    Body Rigidity Improvement:
    No
    Downforce:
    Weight Reduction:
    Stage 3
    Bonnet: Standard
    Windows:
    Weight Reduction
    Ballast:
    127kg
    Ballast position: -44
     
  18. XS

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    Is that the Tommykaira green metallic paint or one of the color shift paints? I can't really tell, but I like it.
     
  19. DolHaus

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    Its one of the GT colour shifts you get from one of the seasonals, can't remember which though. Its nice, goes from dark green to a sort of bruise purple.
     
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  20. KOGSoldier

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    Gonna have to give this car a try later today
     
  21. DolHaus

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    Prepare to spend a lot of time facing back the way you came lol
     
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    Ok I get it now lol this car is just unpredictable under braking under acceleration all through the corner but accelerates well in a straight line...Ive done quite a few laps at grand valley posting a best time of 1:57.0 but have not come with anything I would submit...gonna keep trying tomorrow and post something after...:banghead::confused:

    I hope someone comes up with a good set up because I really want to race this car
     
  23. Woodski_427

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    Well, as of 1.06 you can put on the standard or custom rear wings :tup:.
     
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    Hi XS, I was wondering where to get the spreadsheet to that you use to do the reviews, much obliged if you can help me here. I did some some snooping around other garages and now I know why @DolHaus (doll house) chose that name, check out this picture I took of him in his personal vehicle .........not exactly a stratos ......
    Strange Cars - 01.jpg :cheers: to you all.
     
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  25. DolHaus

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    Don't mock, it was the most economical motorised shoe I could afford at the time, times are hard man!
     
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    Having been to Saltash many times, I can safely say that these sorts of motorised vehicles are quite common. You can only imagine what you will see when you arrive in Lands End. :)
     
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    Quiet down you northern monkey! lol
     
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    LOL!!

    As far as the reviews are concerned, I don't use anything, I just have it memorized. It was originally a layout Praiano came up with.
    Reviewer Info

    Low Speed Corners
    Entry
    Mid
    Exit
    Comments

    Mid Speed Corner
    Entry
    Mid
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    Comments

    High Speed Corner
    Entry
    Mid
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    Comments

    Overall Comments
     
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  29. KOGSoldier

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    Lol can't get this car to do what I want at all...as soon as I try to push the pace it skiddish so not having much luck...good luck to rest of you...gonna try some of the posted tunes
     
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    Oullim Motors Spirra Prototype '04 - 530PP / Sport Soft
    Spirra front.jpg
    I made this one for the Int.B Supercar Festival, makes for some close finish races.
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