DLC are too expensive ?

[Flaco13]

How is that in any way similar? The 5 tracks in NFS were not straight out a PS2 game and neither were the cars.

It is similar in the way the cars and tracks look. Bad!

you don't have to pay for a season pass and no, he didn't have a point. He flat out said that if this content was in an EA game it would cost three times as much. That's clearly not the case.

Well not a season pass but some other access to the full game they charge you.. unlocking cars, whatever it is.
I said IMO (that means IN MY OPINION) he had a point. As I don't take it all literally, like 'oh he said 3 times, now I must show him its only 2.467 times'. THEY RIP PPL OFF thats what its about! And PD ,thank god, doesn't...not yet... hopefully it stays this way.

 

[Imari]

It is similar in the way the cars and tracks look. Bad!

Seems pointless to argue with you if you think that the cars and tracks in the Legends pack aren't of a higher quality than PS2 era assets. I mean really, 14 cars with full interiors and damage and you're saying they're worse than GT4. Please.

 

[Flaco13]

Seems pointless to argue with you if you think that the cars and tracks in the Legends pack aren't of a higher quality than PS2 era assets. I mean really, 14 cars with full interiors and damage and you're saying they're worse than GT4. Please.

yeah, ok!

ok the cars are better, still my point is overal price/value of EA is worse than PD's

 

[Samus]

It is similar in the way the cars and tracks look. Bad!

What a load of rubbish.

Well not a season pass but some other access to the full game they charge you.. unlocking cars, whatever it is.

If you're talking about the unlock codes to unlock everything in the game that is OPTIONAL if you want to get everything fast, nobody forces you to buy it and you can unlock it all for free by actually playing the game.

I said IMO (that means IN MY OPINION) he had a point. As I don't take it all literally, like 'oh he said 3 times, now I must show him its only 2.467 times'. THEY RIP PPL OFF thats what its about! And PD ,thank god, doesn't...not yet... hopefully it stays this way.

Show me some comparable EA DLC that is even close to being more than $5 per track, let alone two or three times that. Until you can your opinion is straight up wrong.

As for PD not ripping people off did you not notice the paint DLC which is one use only? Or the car DLC pack that was simply current cars slightly modified?

yeah, ok!

ok the cars are better, still my point is overal price/value of EA is worse than PD's

Five unique tracks and 14 unique cars in Shift 2 = $10
Four unique tracks (+ speed test functions) and 15 unique (yet not new) cars in GT5 = $21

Nope, failing to see your point here.

 

[Flaco13]

What a load of rubbish.




If you're talking about the unlock codes to unlock everything in the game that is OPTIONAL if you want to get everything fast, nobody forces you to buy it and you can unlock it all for free by actually playing the game.



Show me some comparable EA DLC that is even close to being more than $5 per track, let alone two or three times that. Until you can your opinion is straight up wrong.

As for PD not ripping people off did you not notice the paint DLC which is one use only? Or the car DLC pack that was simply current cars slightly modified?

Ok. EA is the greatest and shift 2 the best racing game ever they give us so much for our money. In your words: 'What a load of rubbish'
If it was that great why are we discussing here instead of racing each other in the marvalous shift legends? Why did I bring this game back after a day when i borrowed it for 3 days?
If you enjoy that arcade racer, good for you, have fun playing it and spend your money there, or not. It's OPTIONAL, just like paint chips and dlc racemodeled cars of existing one btw are OPTIONAL

 

[Spagetti69]

It's OPTIONAL, just like paint chips and dlc racemodeled cars of existing one btw are OPTIONAL

Oh that applys now does it?
EA,T10 are compulsory are they.

Pick and choose like a pick and choosey thing mate.

Think T10 have given more free cars out too tbh.

 

[Samus]

Ok. EA is the greatest and shift 2 the best racing game ever they give us so much for our money. In your words: 'What a load of rubbish'
If it was that great why are we discussing here instead of racing each other in the marvalous shift legends? Why did I bring this game back after a day when i borrowed it for 3 days?
If you enjoy that arcade racer, good for you, have fun playing it and spend your money there, or not. It's OPTIONAL, just like paint chips and dlc racemodeled cars of existing one btw are OPTIONAL

WTF? That's a very childish comment. I hated Shift and we aren't talking about the game at all. We're talking about the cost of their DLC if you forgot. As for your comment about optional I assume you're replying back to my comment that the 'unlock everything' code was optional. That is, because you can unlock them without paying.

What you seem to be basically saying is that EAs 'unlock everything' DLC is a rip off despite it being optional but because GT5 DLC is also optional then that isn't a rip off?

 

[Flaco13]

Oh that applys now does it?
EA,T10 are compulsory are they.

Pick and choose like a pick and choosey thing mate.

Think T10 have given more free cars out too tbh.

Show me where PD trys to tempt you into purchase? It's there, the rest is up to you.

T10 gives you a hundred messages 'new dlc' ... 'vip pass' .... buy buy buy 'you get a discount' but you don't!

EA: 'Get all the cars now, be in ahead of your friends'

PD: new dlc now available

Who's compulsory?

Simon, I only accused t10 from ripping me off because for vip pass they seem to promise a discount on the monthly dlc pack, wich turned out to be not the case

 

[Samus]

Show me where PD trys to tempt you into purchase? It's there, the rest is up to you.

T10 gives you a hundred messages 'new dlc' ... 'vip pass' .... buy buy buy 'you get a discount' but you don't!

EA: 'Get all the cars now, be in ahead of your friends'

PD: new dlc now available

Who's compulsory?

None of them. I'm not sure you understand the concept of trying to sell a product.

 

[obsessive rules]

Flaco, ea was voted worst company. Stop going off topic now.

 

[Flaco13]

Flaco, ea was voted worst company. Stop going off topic now.

doesn't it say: DLC are too expensive?

how is this off topic?

 

[obsessive rules]

doesn't it say: DLC are too expensive?

how is this off topic?

Oh, silly me. The fact you started sharing your "expert" opinions of NFs GAMES AND EA rather than DLC isn't off topic is it?

 

[Flaco13]

It's a discussion thread. So therefore anyone can have an opinion...

Whatever happened to this? You are quick to change your mind huh?
Good, I'm out, I said what I think, never claimed to be an 'expert'. If I'm beeing insulted then I don't know why I should go on discussing.

 

[Samus]

All of this stemmed from this comment:

Treble the price = how much it would cost on a game made by EA

Which I promptly corrected them on because it is not true whatsoever. Why Flaco felt the need to turn that into an EA/Shift bashing session and still couldn't come up with a single piece of evidence that the comment was in any way true I don't know.

 

[Flaco13]

Why am I the bad guy now when all we did was comparing the dlc prices of the different games?
And I didn't say his comment was true, I said he had a point. As far as I know thats not the same.

 

[obsessive rules]

all of this stemmed from this comment:

Which i promptly corrected them on because it is not true whatsoever. Why flaco felt the need to turn that into an ea/shift bashing session and still couldn't come up with a single piece of evidence that the comment was in any way true i don't know.

exactly!

 

[MSTER232]

I have to say this logic is flawed mate. So what if the track was in a previous version of the game? PD still has to pay for the license to use the track. Unless otherwise stated in the licensing agreement, the license to use a track or car, doesn't carry over from one game to the next. Seeing as we didn't see the track at release, we can assume with a fair amount of certaincy that PD did not have the license for it.

I'm almost 100 % certain that it costs more for PD to buy a license, than it does to model the track.

Back on topic. I won't be buying Motegi. It's too expensive IMO, espicially considering that Spa was less expensive. Not to mention that Spa simply looked better graphics wise.

No, he means tracks created by PD themselves. If they created the track themselves, then surely they shouldn't have to pay to feature it in a new game (in terms of licensing) ? That would be like a car company creating a car, then having to buy a license to produce the newer generation of the same car.

 

[Samus]

Why am I the bad guy now when all we did was comparing the dlc prices of the different games?
And I didn't say his comment was true, I said he had a point. As far as I know thats not the same.

It pretty much is. Explain how to me he has a point with that comment.

 

[obsessive rules]

Why am I the bad guy now when all we did was comparing the dlc prices of the different games?
And I didn't say his comment was true, I said he had a point. As far as I know thats not the same.

Just quit while your ahead. The comment unless explained properly won't get you far and not to be a pain but, grammar would help. Easier reading y'know.

 

[Flaco13]

It pretty much is. Explain how to me he has a point with that comment.

He might not have a point to you, just to me.

We should be able to compare DLC prices of other games to GT5.
Simply comparing the price/value, here you get 5 tracks and 14 cars for 10$ there you get 4tracks and 15 cars for 21$, is one option but I don't find it satisfying.

I tried shift so I know it, and this pack for 10$ isn't worth it, the content itself might be promising, but there is no use if the whole game itself is arcady, while what you want is a sim.

To the question how he has a point: although I'm no 'expert' everytime I see a nfs game, like I borrow it or a friend plays it, or I go to psn-store there is tonns of content, and they praise it to the kids however they can. They only care about making money.

Like the other guy posted, before he suddenly jumped on me, had to pay 8 pounds for unlocking all the cars. Its tempting people, yeah it's optional and they don't force but tempt people to buy it.

Not the pure comparision of the price itself, PD only has GT5 while nfs has how many games? Summe up the entire dlc price list of nfs vs. gt5.

I can't show you a single evidence, I'm typing this from my PS3 and can't go the PSN store or any other site I don't have a computer, thats why I can't come up with any numbers and quotes to prove something, unless I got it on my mind. Plus I'm not native english speaking so I can't express myself the way you do.

All in all, what I'm trying to say, there sure are people playing shift complaing about 10$ a pack, because in there eyes its not worth it, same as here the complaints about 5$ a track.

You, simon don't think motegi is worth its money,ok, accepted. But you defended another game by listing their dlc. a game you said yourself you hated! Just to prove someone else wrong.
You always seem to try to do that, always try and prove others wrong. Like it gives you satisfaction when you suceed.
What a bad habit. I just wanted to tell you that.
Now I can't prove anything to you, I told you why, even if I could I don't care. I'll let it rest and will not comment your stuff again, because you won't change that habit anyway.👎

 

[Samus]

Let me remind you who brought this all up, it was you. I simply corrected what someone said because they were wrong. It's not that I get some sort of pleasure out of correcting people on the internet, it's just that I do find it irritating when people post things that are flat out incorrect so I felt like pulling him up on it. That was that, then you decided to jump in and bash Shift and the quality of that DLC when it wasn't really relevant to the point, which was the cost and nothing more.

All of what you said up there is great but I never originally commented on whether the Shift DLC is worth it's cost based on how bad the game is, FWIW no I don't think it's worth it for that reason. I also wasn't defending EA or the game, they're an atrocious company for the most part. Again, all I simply did was correct someone who seemingly wanted to justify the price of the GT5 DLC by claiming that EA would charge three times as much for the same content, as if that somehow validated the cost. I showed that they do not.

So in short that guy was completely wrong in what he said and I corrected him, let's move on.

 

[blue cat]

So I decided to look this up since comparing DLC and a monthly subscription are two different things. Tracks on iRacing range from $11.95-$14.95. So instead of saying you could have bought one months subscription you could also say for the price of one track in iRacing you can buy Motegi, Spa, and KartSpace in GT. Sounds different then, huh?

Yeah thats true, regular pricing iRacing doesn't appeal to me, but they seem to have regular discounts for new members (someone recently posted a way to get 6 months free membership in the iRacing forum here on gtplanet). I like Motegi, but i think the value of DLC is decreasing. I would be ecstatic with a pack of legacy tracks but having bought all the DLC to date i'm not keen on further individual purchases.

 

[HuskyGT]

I bought the tracks and Car Packs 2 and 3. The racing gear is worth it(that will be my next purchase), but the paint pack is kind of useless unless you buy a bunch.

The only one that's definitely NOT worth it is Car Pack 1. I won't be getting it unless they reduce at least half of it's price, but being honest, Car Pack 1 should be free.

 

[Johnnypenso]

I can't believe you guys made 173 posts about something being too expensive, when the cost amounts to a few coins in your pocket. It's like saying packages of gum are too expensive, or the cost of six pack of coke is outrageous.

 

[Downhill Dino]

The only one that's definitely NOT worth it is Car Pack 1. I won't be getting it unless they reduce at least half of it's price, but being honest, Car Pack 1 should be free.

Wait... I can understand why it may not be worth it, and cutting the price, but why free? Don't give me the "we are entitled to content" BS please.

 

[ch3ng]

Wait... I can understand why it may not be worth it, and cutting the price, but why free? Don't give me the "we are entitled to content" BS please.

Because all those cars are already in the game. They sell 14 RM Editions for 7$. A good tuning feature and livery editor would solve the problem.
Some people might think they charge for something that could be in the game.

I bought the complete pack and don't care
But i wouldn't buy Car Pack 1, paint pack, gear pack alone. I like Spa and thought i get more if i buy the package.

I can't believe you guys made 173 posts about something being too expensive, when the cost amounts to a few coins in your pocket. It's like saying packages of gum are too expensive, or the cost of six pack of coke is outrageous.

Not this again
Some people bought a car for 60.000$. How silly is that. They could buy 60.000 burger instead.

Why do people compare prices from DLC or products with drink and food?

 

[Samus]

I can't believe you guys made 173 posts about something being too expensive, when the cost amounts to a few coins in your pocket. It's like saying packages of gum are too expensive, or the cost of six pack of coke is outrageous.

Would you like to buy a paperclip? They're $1 each.

 

[Downhill Dino]

@ch3ng: They were already in the game through an update. Factory models don't count.

 

[ch3ng]

@ch3ng: They were already in the game through an update. Factory models don't count.

You don't understand. I know that they add the cars with Updates for various reasons and charge for them. That's fine.

I mean they created 14 RM editions and didn't added 1 new car. That means almost no work and they charge 7$???

If GT5 would deliver livery editor and better tuning options you could create the Car pack 1 for free and add countless other RM Editions.

They did the same with the colour DLC. Other racing games offer alot of different colours for free and PD created a stupid colour system to charge for them.

---> 2 worse integrated feature and 1 missing feature

-> 2 DLC to use those problems to earn money.

 

[Downhill Dino]

It's $8 and that's DLC for ya, get over it.

Oh and I do understand, they don't have such features so oh well.