DLC Pricing Policies - your thoughts?

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Blitz24
Wow really? Are you sure that's not a developer thing because EA does the same thing.
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EA is a publisher, EA started as a publisher in late 80's? early 90's? something like that and later got into dev'ing bussines.

Also another company that is Developing and Publishing games is ubisoft and they also have a U-pass system in some new titles.
 
To the OP - you are certainly within your right to post your opinion. And it seems that you understand if you don't like something, don't buy it. You cast your vote with every purchase you choose or choose not to make.

The term money hungry here is absolutely correct - all for profit corporate entities are in the business of making money. Think about the developers, artists, designers, etc that work for the companies that developed GT5: chances are nearly all of them made a significant time and financial investments within themselves to acquire the skills needed to make such a great game. Long story short: everyone associated with the development of GT5 wants the game to make money, not just the board of directors.

In a perfect world, everything would be free. Trust me, I'd love it that way! However, that's not how things work. Had profit motive (i.e. the opportunity to make money) not existed in the first place, than GT1 wouldn't have even come to fruition.

I respect your opinion. The only thing that I ask is that you remember what a GT5 disc by itself gets you. Over 1000 cars (the most in a GT game ever), dozens of tracks, the ability to play online for free, updates for free that correct the bugs, and great gameplay with one of the most advanced racing games ever created.

By contrast, the last GT game I bought was GT3. Awesome game but nowhere near as good or as large as GT5. Also, there was no DLC, no patches to fix problems, and no online capability (unless I'm mistaken). If I recall, GT3 cost the same price as GT5 upon initial release and that was nearly a decade ago. Taking into consideration inflation and technological advancement, getting twice the game at a price of GT3 years back (no inflation!) is a great deal!

So far I've spent $75 US this year on something that has entertained me for hours and made me a few friends. To me it seems like a great value as I know I've wasted much more on far less - I know that I've spilled more than $75 of alcohol on the floor in 2012!

On a final note - the concept of DLC to me is great, when its done on GT5 fashion. I'm not hot on how Call of Duty does it but its still better than how I grew up with video games - if something new had to go into the game, that meant a new cartridge - Street Fighter II* on the SNES anyone?!

That's just my two cents on the matter. Don't expect you to agree with it because your entitled to your own thoughts. Just hoped that I helped put things into perspective; if not please continue to support GT, PD, and Sony in a manner that you are comfortable with.

*Sorry, I love the SF franchise but they've been horrible over the years! I've learned not to buy the "new" SF game right off the bat! Also sorry for the long rant.
 
omgitsbees
The way I understood it is all games published by Sony, starting fall of 2011, will be having these multiplayer redeem codes in them. EA has been doing it for sometime like you pointed out, Codemasters does it as well, as do a number of other developers/publishers now.

Activision and Microsoft are two of the big ones that have yet to jump on this bandwagon.
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Which will effectively kill the used game business.
 
aland18
To the OP - you are certainly within your right to post your opinion. And it seems that you understand if you don't like something, don't buy it. You cast your vote with every purchase you choose or choose not to make.

The term money hungry here is absolutely correct - all for profit corporate entities are in the business of making money. Think about the developers, artists, designers, etc that work for the companies that developed GT5: chances are nearly all of them made a significant time and financial investments within themselves to acquire the skills needed to make such a great game. Long story short: everyone associated with the development of GT5 wants the game to make money, not just the board of directors.

In a perfect world, everything would be free. Trust me, I'd love it that way! However, that's not how things work. Had profit motive (i.e. the opportunity to make money) not existed in the first place, than GT1 wouldn't have even come to fruition.

I respect your opinion. The only thing that I ask is that you remember what a GT5 disc by itself gets you. Over 1000 cars (the most in a GT game ever), dozens of tracks, the ability to play online for free, updates for free that correct the bugs, and great gameplay with one of the most advanced racing games ever created.

By contrast, the last GT game I bought was GT3. Awesome game but nowhere near as good or as large as GT5. Also, there was no DLC, no patches to fix problems, and no online capability (unless I'm mistaken). If I recall, GT3 cost the same price as GT5 upon initial release and that was nearly a decade ago. Taking into consideration inflation and technological advancement, getting twice the game at a price of GT3 years back (no inflation!) is a great deal!

So far I've spent $75 US this year on something that has entertained me for hours and made me a few friends. To me it seems like a great value as I know I've wasted much more on far less - I know that I've spilled more than $75 of alcohol on the floor in 2012!

On a final note - the concept of DLC to me is great, when its done on GT5 fashion. I'm not hot on how Call of Duty does it but its still better than how I grew up with video games - if something new had to go into the game, that meant a new cartridge - Street Fighter II* on the SNES anyone?!

That's just my two cents on the matter. Don't expect you to agree with it because your entitled to your own thoughts. Just hoped that I helped put things into perspective; if not please continue to support GT, PD, and Sony in a manner that you are comfortable with.

*Sorry, I love the SF franchise but they've been horrible over the years! I've learned not to buy the "new" SF game right off the bat! Also sorry for the long rant.
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Right on ..👍👍
 
NeoXenzaka
Dear PD,

I am a loyal fan. Please stop charging your loyal player base money for content.

Dear players,

Please retaliate. This is pure nonsense.

I love PD.

I love GT.

I love GTP.

I don't like being charged for content that should be free.

Stick it in GT6 if you must, but stop robbing your players.

This isn't about complaining.

This is about common sense. Be nice PD.

"Oh but everyone charges for DLC...besides, if you don't want to pay for it than don't buy it!"

I, disagree.
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Fine example of why we can never have anything nice.

Why is that you may ask? It's because there's always that one, single person who is "🤬 you! Always (insert car variation), not (insert favoured car variation)!" or "stop charging for DLC!"

In which case I say:
STFU and don't buy it if you don't like/want it.
(pardon the language)

Simple as that. Many of us are interested in the new DLC, and $4 doesn't kill anyone (besides, Christmas is coming up kids - now you have no excuse period).


Could it use a couple more cars? Yes, but I'm not complaining.


Edit: oh, and of you think PD is money hungry - just look at Forza...or Call of Floopy.
 
MikeKyu
If 4 bucks breaks ya, dont buy it. But please don't bring forth elementary reasoning and deduction skills which completely nullify somone else's intellectual property ot their hard work in bringing it to their audience.
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I don't think anybody's arguing that $4 is a lot of money. What people are pointing out is that many people have given other racing series guff for charging $7 for 10-car packs. 10-car packs that carry cars that are all almost entirely new to the series. Not an essentially identical Mini, yet another GT-R, and the two Veedubs. I like all the cars, but even I'll admit this pack is... pushing it.

kimi123
If in 2 months 20 cars would be avaliable then why not wait some time before releasing the game and why charge 14$ extra. Obviously they had planned to sell it seperately and get people to buy season pass.
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If they wait to release the game to fit in unfinished cars, then the game would be in a perpetual state of almost-release. Sort of like... GT was, for years. This is not a good idea.
 
So based on what you're (OP) saying, we should get certain things for free just because it's "common sense"?

What's your definition of "should be free"?

What is PD doing that isn't "nice" in your mind?

Lastly, how is PD "robbing" their customers? It's not like they're pointing a gun at your head and forcing you to buy it.
 
1241Penguin
Lastly, how is PD "robbing" their customers? It's not like they're pointing a gun at your head and forcing you to buy it.
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This x100000000000000+

Honestly this thread is ridiculous and should have been locked a long time ago. :ouch:
 
R1600Turbo
And nobody asked you, so :yuck:
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And nobody asked you to repeatedly come into this thread and whine about how awful the thread is.


And considering a moderator has posted in it and it remains unlocked, it seems safe to assume that it isn't that much of an issue at the moment.
 
I don't mind that it costs money because you can get those card things that you just enter the code in, that saves putting your bank details online thus making it safer.

I wouldnt go as far as saying anyone is money hungry, its just the way it works now days.. if we were in the 1930s I'm sure it would be free but, in this day and age everything costs money, ain't no way you'll get anything for free now days.

So my advice is.. toughen up princess.
 
Toronado
And nobody asked you to repeatedly come into this thread and whine about how awful the thread is.
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No different than idiots like you coming in to defend the stupidity. Call it whining or whatever you want, it's just a small part of the constant whining we've all had to swim trough today.

Same old story.
 
I'm not interested in these cars so I won't be buying the DLC.


I'm also not going to come on here and complain that they're charging for something that's been optionally added to the game over a year after the initial release, and that you aren't required to purchase in order to play the game.


Additionally, they're actually releasing ANOTHER completely free vehicle (2 if you count the kart) with the update to go along with all of the free cars already released. I just don't understand how someone can complain about having the option to pay to expand the game should they so desire. The OP says they should just wait for GT6, well in that case he can just wait and buy GT6 when it comes out as I'm sure it will include all of these cars already. So what's the point in complaining?
 
R1600Turbo
No different than idiots like you coming in to defend the stupidity.
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Cool story bro.

R1600Turbo
Call it whining or whatever you want, it's just a small part of the constant whining we've all had to swim trough today.
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There's a difference between complaining about something and complaining simply because you are sick of people expressingg opinions you don't like. I haven't seen a post made by you in either thread since the DLC was announced today that wasn't the latter.


In fact, the entirety of your posts in this thread have basically been telling people over and over to shut up rather than actually debate anything with anybody, so I suggest you invest in some plate glass when you are done throwing all of those stones.
 
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Toronado
In fact, the entirety of your posts in this thread have basically been telling people over and over to shut up rather than actually debate anything with anybody, so I suggest you invest in some plate glass when you are done throwing all of those stones.
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Cool story bro.
 
Well it's not for me, hence the topic I posted in the Help section where Jordan confirms that there's an issue.
 
If people are going to resort to calling others idiots (really?!) it's not going to end well.

A thread title change may be needed, but a discussion about the pros and cons of DLC in the modern age in relation to GT5 is perfectly valid. As is people voicing displeasure at the cost of it.

(EDIT) - There we go.
 
SlipZtrEm
If people are going to resort to calling others idiots (really?!) it's not going to end well.

A thread title change may be needed, but a discussion about the pros and cons of DLC in the modern age in relation to GT5 is perfectly valid. As is people voicing displeasure at the cost of it.
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Displeasure at something that costs $4?! More like people having nothing to do other than complain.
 
R1600Turbo
Idiot is better than what I was really thinking.
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You got your answer. There's the door.








Anyway:
NEPALII
Displeasure at something that costs $4?! More like people having nothing to do other than complain.
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It's not the total cost. It is the cost based on the content delivered compared to other games. Nevermind the arguments surrounding how "new" the cars in this pack are.




Now, the Toyota included in the 2.02 update for free muddles that somewhat, but that itself depends entirely on whether Toyota paid to have the 86 in the game (Which is impossible to know for sure. I say that that was probably how it went down, but who knows?).
 
Good for you. Just stop throwing hissy fits over something you don't like being discussed now that the moderators said it was okay to discuss it. Perhaps even take part in the discussion itself rather than just call everyone who is names.





And feel free to get the last word in, because I'm done with you on this matter.
 
Toronado
And feel free to get the last word in, because I'm done with you on this matter.
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Ditto. 👍

On topic:

Based on the price of Hotwheels these days, as brought up in another thread, I think the price of this DLC is just fine. In fact, I would pay $4 just for the Toyota 86.

Can't wait to get my grubby mits on that beast.
 
Toronado
Anyway:[/color][/b][/font]


It's not the total cost. It is the cost based on the content delivered compared to other games. Nevermind the arguments surrounding how "new" the cars in this pack are.




Now, the Toyota included in the 2.02 update for free muddles that somewhat, but that itself depends entirely on whether Toyota paid to have the 86 in the game (Which is impossible to know for sure. I say that that was probably how it went down, but who knows?).
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Compared to other games? What other games? Forza? LOL monthly DLC, NOW THATS ripping you off. How many times has the game gotten updated to add new features for FREE?! Oh and go look at Forza's DLC cars. They aren't "new" according to you as well, since they are newer version of existent models in the game. Nice try :) here's the link for ya: http://www.virtualr.net/forza-motorsport-4-november-dlc-pack-available 2012 Dodge Charger, 2013 Focus, 2011 RS3 LOOOOL

Forza 4 has add more DLC in 2 months than GT5 in 1 year. Figure out who's actually money hungry.
 
Compared to other games? What other games? Forza? LOL monthly DLC, NOW THATS ripping you off. How many times has the game gotten updated to add new features for FREE?! Oh and go look at Forza's DLC cars. They aren't "new" according to you as well, since they are newer version of existent models in the game. Nice try here's the link for ya: http://www.virtualr.net/forza-motors...pack-available 2012 Dodge Charger, 2013 Focus, 2011 RS3 LOOOOL

Forza 4 has add more DLC in 2 months than GT5 in 1 year. Figure out who's actually money hungry.

So then, if we are not debating actual "NEW" content, Forza 4 (10 cars - $7), GT5 (4 cars for $4)

Someone can also take this line: "How many times has the game gotten updated to add new features for FREE?" and say maybe Forza 4 had the whole package to begin with, nullfying free patches. Just sayin'.
 

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