DLC Pricing Policies - your thoughts?

[SAFFY]

PD are in it for customer satisfaction, as well as the money If I'm honest, its a good selling point. I don't any issues with the pricing, because I'm eager to get hold of the latest content, and if it means $4 so be it.

 

[CodeRedR51]

So then, if we are not debating actual "NEW" content, Forza 4 (10 cars - $7), GT5 (4 cars for $4)

Based on the fact that we got 15 cars last time for $8, I don't get it.

PD are in it for customer satisfaction, as well as the money If I'm honest, its a good selling point. I don't any issues with the pricing, because I'm eager to get hold of the latest content, and if it means $4 so be it.

I'm pretty sure it's Sony that comes up with the DLC prices, although not 100% sure. Maybe just for their games?

 

[NEPALII]

Im not discussing prices. Im discussing the fact of people assuming these arent necessarily new cars and thinking that PD is going to start throwing out too much DLC when other games release DLC packs every month. They are NEW cars, if you dont think so, dont buy it. Your loss.

 

[Gejabo]

Im not discussing prices. Im discussing the fact of people assuming these arent necessarily new cars and thinking that PD is going to start throwing out too much DLC when other games release DLC packs every month. They are NEW cars, if you dont think so, dont buy it. Your loss.

Amen 👍

 

[Terronium-12]

Compared to other games? What other games? Forza? LOL monthly DLC, NOW THATS ripping you off. How many times has the game gotten updated to add new features for FREE?! Oh and go look at Forza's DLC cars. They aren't "new" according to you as well, since they are newer version of existent models in the game. Nice try here's the link for ya: http://www.virtualr.net/forza-motorsport-4-november-dlc-pack-available 2012 Dodge Charger, 2013 Focus, 2011 RS3 LOOOOL

Forza 4 has add more DLC in 2 months than GT5 in 1 year. Figure out who's actually money hungry.

How many times has Forza charged you for single-use paint swatches or racing gear?

Oh, and the RS3 Sportback is the only S/RS3 is the game; the only other estate vehicle from Audi in FM4 is the RS2 Avant. Do try again though.

 

[Tornado]

Compared to other games? What other games? Forza? LOL monthly DLC, NOW THATS ripping you off.

Frequent DLC isn't inherently a rip-off so long as the content supports the price asked for it.

How many times has the game gotten updated to add new features for FREE?!

How many games were released in as unreleased a state as Kaz admitted GT5 was?

Oh and go look at Forza's DLC cars. They aren't "new" according to you as well, since they are newer version of existent models in the game. Nice try here's the link for ya: http://www.virtualr.net/forza-motorsport-4-november-dlc-pack-available 2012 Dodge Charger, 2013 Focus, 2011 RS3 LOOOOL

Let's look at that list, shall we?

2012 Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4:

A model not in the game.

2012 Aston Martin Virage

A model not in the game.

2011 #2 Audi Sport Team Joest R15++ TDI

An update of a model already in the game (Perhaps. I don't know much about LMP regulations). So you have one point in your favor.

2011 Audi RS3 Sportback

A model not in the game.

1957 Chevrolet Bel Air

A model not in the game.

2012 Dodge Charger SRT8

An entirely different model generation from the one already in the game.

2011 Ferrari #62 Risi Competizione F458 Italia

A model not in the game.

2013 Ford Focus ST

An entirely different model generation from the one already in the game.

1992 GMC Typhoon

A model not in the game.

2011 Volkswagen Scirocco R

A slightly different model of the car already in the game. I don't know enough about the base Scirocco to make a definitive statement about it, but I'll say it is a point in your favor.



So, all told, two out of 10 cars in this Forza DLC pack which might be revisions of cars already in the game; compared to two out of 4 cars in the GT5 DLC Pack #2 which are definitely revisions of cars already in the game, one of which might as well be identical.




And there is quite a huge difference between adding entirely different model generations of cars like with the Chargers and taking an R56 Mini and putting stripes and a different front splitter on it. Nice try.

Forza 4 has add more DLC in 2 months than GT5 in 1 year. Figure out who's actually money hungry.

I imagine the one who is adding less cars for more money per car. Or the one whose DLC cars have so far overwhelmingly been variations of cars already in the game. Or the ones who had the balls to charge money for one time use paint chips, but still didn't bother doing anything to the atrocious car paint system in response.

And since Kaz already said that GT5 DLC will now be bimonthly, this point doesn't really work in your favor anyway.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Honestly I would rather be playing the game now, with multiple up dates having been downloaded, than STILL waiting for it to come out.

 

[NEPALII]

Frequent DLC isn't inherently a rip-off so long as the content supports the price asked for it.


How many games were released in as unreleased a state as Kaz admitted GT5 was?



Let's look at that list, shall we?

2012 Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4:

A model not in the game.

2012 Aston Martin Virage

A model not in the game.

2011 #2 Audi Sport Team Joest R15++ TDI

An update of a model already in the game (Perhaps. I don't know much about LMP regulations). So you have one point in your favor.

2011 Audi RS3 Sportback

A model not in the game.

1957 Chevrolet Bel Air

A model not in the game.

2012 Dodge Charger SRT8

An entirely different model generation from the one already in the game.

2011 Ferrari #62 Risi Competizione F458 Italia

A model not in the game.

2013 Ford Focus ST

An entirely different model generation from the one already in the game.

1992 GMC Typhoon

A model not in the game.

2011 Volkswagen Scirocco R

A slightly different model of the car already in the game. I don't know enough about the base Scirocco to make a definitive statement about it, but I'll say it is a point in your favor.



So, all told, two out of 10 cars in this Forza DLC pack which might be revisions of cars already in the game; compared to two out of 4 cars in the GT5 DLC Pack #2 which are definitely revisions of cars already in the game, one of which might as well be identical.




And there is quite a huge difference between adding entirely different model generations of cars like with the Chargers and taking an R56 Mini and putting stripes and a different front splitter on it. Nice try.


I imagine the one who is adding less cars for more money per car. Or the one whose DLC cars have so far overwhelmingly been variations of cars already in the game. Or the ones who had the balls to charge money for one time use paint chips, but still didn't bother doing anything to the atrocious car paint system in response.

And since Kaz already said that GT5 DLC will now be bimonthly, this point doesn't really work in your favor anyway.

Wanna a cookie? You are just one of the many little whiners that are never satisfied with anything. I'm done with you. People like you are the reason why I rarely visit the main GT5 forums.

 

[HikaruGT]

I wouldn't have minded if they priced DLC the same in all regions. NA gets to pay $3.99 but the price of the EU and UK is $1-2 higher. It's less about the money but more about the principal.

 

[Tornado]

Wanna a cookie?

You keep it. It is rare to see such an epic ragequit these days.

You are just one of the many little whiners that are never satisfied with anything.

He says after the main crux of his post blows up in his face.

"Screw you guys, I'm going home."

I'm done with you. People like you are the reason why I rarely visit the main GT5 forums.

What, people who are actually capable and willing of supporting their statements of fact with evidence?

It isn't my fault that you based the majority of your argument on a claim that a 30 second Google search by someone who doesn't even own the game disproved.

 

[Terronium-12]

Wanna a cookie? You are just one of the many little whiners that are never satisfied with anything. I'm done with you. People like you are the reason why I rarely visit the main GT5 forums.

I'm horribly confused: you say something that's (largely) incorrect, get called on it twice, make a post that's essentially equivalent to sticking your fingers in your ears, and he's the whiner?

Someone, anyone, tell me what I'm missing here.

 

[urmie]

I'm horribly confused: you say something that's (largely) incorrect, get called on it twice, make a post that's essentially equivalent to sticking your fingers in your ears, and he's the whiner?

Someone, anyone, tell me what I'm missing here.

I honestly thought the same thing.
BTW, just thought, will it be less for PS+ subscribers?

 

[CodeRedR51]

Wanna a cookie? You are just one of the many little whiners that are never satisfied with anything. I'm done with you. People like you are the reason why I rarely visit the main GT5 forums.

Dude just drop it. He's not worth it, ask me now I know.

 

[1241Penguin]

I genuinely am not trying to sound like one of those "fanboys who defend GT5 infinitely," but have you guys ever heard of a word called "integrity"?

Those 12+ updates that we got? They don't have to give it to us. As far as they're concerned, they can charge you $100 for each update. Those Seasonal Events? They can stop adding new events whenever they want, I mean, they're not forced to do it.

The fact that some are complaining that they have to pay for DLC is beyond me. If you look at just the content of the DLC and it's price, it will obviously look a bit steep. But if you look what PD has done collectively, then $4 is nothing.

They don't have to do what they've done, but they have, and when they ask for a little bit in return, people start complaining. I don't get that, can somebody explain this?

I'm astonished that people fail to realize what integrity is...

 

[urmie]

I genuinely am not trying to sound like one of those "fanboys who defend GT5 infinitely," but have you guys ever heard of a word called "integrity"?

Those 12+ updates that we got? They don't have to give it to us. As far as they're concerned, they can charge you $100 for each update. Those Seasonal Events? They can stop adding new events whenever they want, I mean, they're not forced to do it.

The fact that some are complaining that they have to pay for DLC is beyond me. If you look at just the content of the DLC and it's price, it will obviously look a bit steep. But if you look what PD has done collectively, then $4 is nothing.

They don't have to do what they've done, but they have, and when they ask for a little bit in return, people start complaining. I don't get that, can somebody explain this?

I'm astonished that people fail to realize what integrity is...

Some people feel the game was not complete upon first release. Sure they could've done ZERO updates, but then PD runs the risk of nobody buying into GT6 then. You got to keep your base happy, it's not really about complaining and I don't think people are complaining much about the price, it's more about how much content you get for $4. Some feel it's not enough to warrant the price, some do.

 

[Terronium-12]

I genuinely am not trying to sound like one of those "fanboys who defend GT5 infinitely," but have you guys ever heard of a word called "integrity"?

Those 12+ updates that we got? They don't have to give it to us. As far as they're concerned, they can charge you $100 for each update. Those Seasonal Events? They can stop adding new events whenever they want, I mean, they're not forced to do it.

The fact that some are complaining that they have to pay for DLC is beyond me. If you look at just the content of the DLC and it's price, it will obviously look a bit steep. But if you look what PD has done collectively, then $4 is nothing.

They don't have to do what they've done, but they have, and when they ask for a little bit in return, people start complaining. I don't get that, can somebody explain this?

I'm astonished that people fail to realize what integrity is...

People keep harping on the matter of the price when that's not the issue, the issue is the (seemingly redundant) content that the price is tied to.

No one (that I've seen anyway) asked for Seasonal Events - that was something PD did to compensate for the lack of actual events; something that even Prologue does better.

 

[doctorrg]

People keep harping on the matter of the price when that's not the issue, the issue is the (seemingly redundant) content that the price is tied to.

That is a good point. But maybe a lot of people tend to firstly look at how much it costs, and only secondly at what they're actually getting for it. Because let's be honest, you're not getting much. I'm actually quite disappointed with the DLC, but I may well end up buying it anyway, exactly because it only costs $4.

 

[1241Penguin]

...PD runs the risk of nobody buying into GT6 then. You got to keep your base happy

Fair point. 👍

...it's not really about complaining and I don't think people are complaining much about the price, it's more about how much content you get for $4.

As I've said before, you aren't threatened with death if you don't purchase the DLC.

People keep harping on the matter of the price when that's not the issue, the issue is the (seemingly redundant) content that the price is tied to.

Again, you aren't forced to purchase the DLC.

No one (that I've seen anyway) asked for Seasonal Events - that was something PD did to compensate for the lack of actual events; something that even Prologue does better.

Tell me (with a straight face) that you would be equally happy without the Seasonal Events. I'm going to assume that most people care about the Seasonal Events - we even have an entire subforum for it! However, you are right in saying that the Seasonal Events is there to compensate for the lack of events, and if they didn't add it, then PD can, as urmie pointed out, lose a lot of customers.

On the other hand, PD has also done a lot that people didn't ask for, and people are happy for that.

 

[dtn23]

I'd probably pay the $4 just for that 2012 GT-R. I've been wanting it desperately since the '07 just doesn't hang with other cars in its league. What's $4 anyways? A gallon of gas or a cup of coffee?

 

[Bushby_23]

I wouldn't have minded if they priced DLC the same in all regions. NA gets to pay $3.99 but the price of the EU and UK is $1-2 higher. It's less about the money but more about the principal.

Think that's bad? Us Aussies were forced to pay an extra $7 over America, when our currency was near enough equal (at the time anyway) 👎

I honestly thought the same thing.
BTW, just thought, will it be less for PS+ subscribers?

Doubt it. From what I remember it was still the same price last dlc, so I don't see why they wouod change that stance.

 

[Terronium-12]

As I've said before, you aren't threatened with death if you don't purchase the DLC.

Again, you aren't forced to purchase the DLC.

Yes, because that's always a valid rebuttal, even when faced with courteous criticism.

Tirelessly regurgitating the same flawed logic isn't going to advance the discussion one iota.

Tell me (with a straight face) that you would be equally happy without the Seasonal Events. I'm going to assume that most people care about the Seasonal Events - we even have an entire subforum for it! However, you are right in saying that the Seasonal Events is there to compensate for the lack of events, and if they didn't add it, then PD can, as urmie pointed out, lose a lot of customers.

*Straight face*

I'd be equally as satisfied - know why? I don't play GT5 actively anymore because it's dreadfully boring. I only do the occasional hotlap and photo shoot now, so for all intents and purposes, Seasonal Events pose neither an advantage or disadvantage to me. Anything else?

 

[Tornado]

PS Plus members did have a discount with the first DLC, at least in America.

There was initially a screwup where the discount wasn't shown, but PS+ members were later reimbursed for the difference.

 

[Horde_R35]

I will gladly pay a couple of bucks for PD to keep sending us new cars/tracks. 12 dollars? 3.99? Cmon guys! What?? you dont wanna stop going to Mcdonalds?! You just have to skip 3 dinners there (1 happy meal with this new DLC).



Thanks PD:tup:.

 

[1241Penguin]

Yes, because that's always a valid rebuttal, even when faced with courteous criticism.

Tirelessly regurgitating the same flawed logic isn't going to advance the discussion one iota.

Well, you haven't made a counterargument to this yet. Or perhaps I missed it. I'm waiting?

*Straight face*

I'd be equally as satisfied - know why? I don't play GT5 actively anymore because it's dreadfully boring. I only do the occasional hotlap and photo shoot now, so for all intents and purposes, Seasonal Events pose neither an advantage or disadvantage to me. Anything else?

So to you it's not an advantage, fair enough, each to their own.

 

[Terronium-12]

And you can just keep on waiting as there's no argument to counter.

Other than the one you (and anyone else constantly harping on price and price alone) see.

 

[Tenacious D]

I really can't sympathize with many of you. I know that the kids are kind of stuck whenever PD offers something that costs a few bucks, and you don't have squat or the ability to make squat, or your parents are too cheap or poor to buy you this stuff every so often. Oh well. Do you whine at a fast food place because they don't give you free food?

As for you guys around the world forced to pay more, I'm sorry but your parents voted in government and union leaders who fed your people on the notion that the free lunch is for real, that governments can just keep charging ever more in taxes and fees without any consequences. And now several countries in Europe are on the ropes, Greece is on fire, and the rest of Europe is getting there because too many of you can't do the simple math that expensive governments need to stick their fangs in everyone's necks. This means everything is more expensive, and more with each passing month. The only difference with America is that out government's fangs are in perhaps a quarter-inch less, but at least some of us have enough sense to get involved in the process without burning innocent people's cars up.

If the DLC really is the end of the world for you, surely you can scrape up a few cents a day to eventually get it. If you don't care to buy it, why are you even in this thread, except to start unnecessary fights?

 

[1241Penguin]

And you can just keep on waiting as there's no argument to counter.

Other than the one you (and anyone else constantly harping on price and price alone) see.

What? Harping as in saying it's too expensive? Or harping as in saying that it's fair? If you're saying that I consider the DLC to be too expensive, then well, you're wrong.

Don't like the content? Don't buy it.

 

[Terronium-12]

What? Harping as in saying it's too expensive? Or harping as in saying that it's fair? If you're saying that I consider the DLC to be too expensive, then well, you're wrong.

Don't like the content? Don't buy it.

Harping doesn't define itself as either of those two scenarios.

And you aren't forced to continuously undermine whatever it is you're attempting to prove by creating an argument that never really existed in the first place - yet here you are.

 

[Gejabo]

I really can't sympathize with many of you. I know that the kids are kind of stuck whenever PD offers something that costs a few bucks, and you don't have squat or the ability to make squat, or your parents are too cheap or poor to buy you this stuff every so often. Oh well. Do you whine at a fast food place because they don't give you free food?

As for you guys around the world forced to pay more, I'm sorry but your parents voted in government and union leaders who fed your people on the notion that the free lunch is for real, that governments can just keep charging ever more in taxes and fees without any consequences. And now several countries in Europe are on the ropes, Greece is on fire, and the rest of Europe is getting there because too many of you can't do the simple math that expensive governments need to stick their fangs in everyone's necks. This means everything is more expensive, and more with each passing month. The only difference with America is that out government's fangs are in perhaps a quarter-inch less, but at least some of us have enough sense to get involved in the process without burning innocent people's cars up.

If the DLC really is the end of the world for you, surely you can scrape up a few cents a day to eventually get it. If you don't care to buy it, why are you even in this thread, except to start unnecessary fights?

Maybe I shouln'd be but I', quite offended by you trowing the whole of europe on one pile there.

It's not that in every country there are ugly protests

 

[Dmarc_Atl]

Harping doesn't define itself as either of those two scenarios.

And you aren't forced to continuously undermine whatever it is you're attempting to prove by creating an argument that never really existed in the first place - yet here you are.

Okay. I dont get it. What do you want the users of GTP to say or do about you feeling that you wont get your bang for your buck ?
Dont buy it.
I dont see any flawed logic in that.. That should be the end of the discussion.
Realize that some people think its great DLC while others think its not and get over it.