Dodge Differences

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As a matter of fact... the race car version is much slower. The Viper GTS goes about 260 - 270 MPH. The viper race car only goes 230 - 240 MPH. Both cars suped up. And the poll, I just wanted to see what people thought about the best race car.
 
Originally posted by jultra
The Viper GTS goes about 260 - 270 MPH.
The stock one sure doesn't. And as realistic as GT3 is, the Tune Shop is fairly unrealistic, because it doesn't take into account all of the calibration you'd have to do to actually get a modded car working.

[edit]: BTW, polls relevant to the thread itself = good, thread irrelevant to the thread ≠ good. Please keep that in mind. ;)
 
I mean fully suped and gear ratio changed. The race model I have does not keep up with it and the race one is also suped fully and gear ratios changed the same as the GTS Viper. Is the race car one screwed up on mine or is this the way it is?:boggled:
 
First off, using the same ratio's for each car will give different results, the cars aerodynamics are different and the weight, the dimensions of the cars are different also. The racing Viper the GTS-R has aerobody parts which generate downforce, downforce is when the wind or air hits the car and pushes it down so it sticks to the road and generates grip but it reduces speed so if you have two identical cars but give one more downforce generally the one with more downforce won't have as fast a top speed but it will corner better (remeber this is only on a general basis) to get the GTS-R to hit the same speeds you need different ratio's but don't ask me what they are, what you will find though if you give each car the same settings and same tyres front and back the GTS-R should whip the GTS's proverbial on any circuit that isn't just left turns, the GTS-R is faster than the GTS even when it doesn't have as high a top speed.
 
Yes - downforce is the enemy of aerodynamic efficiency. The GTS-R is designed to generate downforce to allow it to progress at higher speeds through corners, which affects it's ability to perform in a straight line.

Plus it has less power when fully tuned than the GTS...

The GTS-R is the faster track car - therefore the "quicker" car. You have singled out the one occasion (possibly two if the GTS is quicker on Super Speedway, which I doubt) when the GTS is quicker, due to power and aerodynamic advantages.

The Escudo Pike's Peak will cover Test Course and Super Speedway quicker than any F1 car - is the Escudo a faster car than an F1 car? No - because on ANY of the 22 race tracks, the F1 car is quicker.
 
Famine explained it perfectly...

To answer your question... No, your race car is not messed up.

For sure, the gts can run a higher top speed on the test course, but on every other course, the race car will be faster.

Go check it out for yourself, Im sure you will be liking that race car in no time. ;)
 
this list isnt even fair.. anyone w/ half a brain knows the 787B can own just abot all the cars on the list. but i'm gonna vote for the castrol just cus i like it more.;)
 
Exept tat the 787b can't own the GT-One or the R390, the GT-One I believe is the fastest, then the R390, then the 787b.
 
COLOR=red]ok.. I don't really know much about the aerodynamics etc and It's not that I don't like the Team Oreca it's just that I thought it was a little funny that the GTS goes faster. The viper team oreca is just lying in the garage because I have better cars, so I don't use it enough to know alot about it.[/COLOR] :D
 
Originally posted by live4speed
Exept tat the 787b can't own the GT-One or the R390, the GT-One I believe is the fastest, then the R390, then the 787b.

Tuned, yes. Non-tuned, no. 787B > TS020 > R390.

An FYI for jultra...

Better cars (stock) than the Oreca:
F1 cars (P001 & P002, or F094/S, F094/H, F090/S, F688/S, F687/S & F686/M)
787B
TS020 Race Car
R390 LM Race Car
Zonda LM Race Car

Better cars (tuned) than the Oreca:
787B
TS020 Race Car
R390 LM Race Car
Zonda LM Race Car
Denso Sard Supra
Castrol Tom's Supra

That's IT.
 
Originally posted by Sage
And as realistic as GT3 is, the Tune Shop is fairly unrealistic...
Indeed. R32 and R33 Skyline GT-R's can get over 1000 hp in real life so why stop at 880 hp in GT3????
 
yes famine, I do have most of the cars you listed, I think theyre better than the viper too. I know now about the downforce thing so I'll change the settings and see how it works.

Thanks for advice people
 
Check out the prize car list for all these kind of questions. But I'm feeling munificent, so "Like The Wind" in Professional or 75.0% complete - both are one-off only.

Is it worth it? Well it's the quickest race car when stock, and 3rd quickest when tuned (excluding F1 cars, of course), so take a guess. Awesome noise too.
 
Originally posted by jultra
yes famine, I do have most of the cars you listed, I think theyre better than the viper too. I know now about the downforce thing so I'll change the settings and see how it works.

Thanks for advice people

One more point of advice, before you mess with the Downforce an gear ratios make sure you save it as the default settings. You dont want to mess the way your car handles on other tracks just to have a better top speed on the test course. Its easy to remember the auto gear ratios, but sometimes hard to remember where the front an rear downforce sliders were originally. so save your settings first.
 
GT ONE race car is the best, mine will have a 787b n e day
The storm V12 is an ugly piece of ****
 
My tuned viper will beat the oreca race version on test course anyday. Therefore i disagree with "Sage" and" live4speed". And i agree with jultra
 
Originally posted by Sage
The stock one sure doesn't. And as realistic as GT3 is, the Tune Shop is fairly unrealistic, because it doesn't take into account all of the calibration you'd have to do to actually get a modded car working.

[edit]: BTW, polls relevant to the thread itself = good, thread irrelevant to the thread ≠ good. Please keep that in mind. ;)
its mostly because the race car version of the car makes a WHOLE LOT more downforce (thats whats making it not top out as high) , dont compare the 2 in top speed , have a friend race you around on a road course and you will see that the race car is way superior
 
Originally posted by BMW X5 SPORTS
By the way my tuned viper will tear down the oreca race version on test course n e day so i disagree wid "Sage" and" live4speed" and agree wid "jultra"

I've seen famine say that he speaks English. I believe most of us here speak english too. can you rephrase that? my small brain can't handle the missing letters.:scared:
 
LOL menglan.

Your right Eluder, on Test Course the Viper GTS would stand a chance at winning, but on any other track the Race version would normally always win.
 
787B is cool. i dont have R390 or TS020 yet :( but the orcea viper is better looks better and is faster (round track) than the GTS.
 
Originally posted by BMW X5 SPORTS
GT ONE race car is the best, mine will have a 787b n e day
The storm V12 is an ugly piece of ****


I agree the Storm V12 is bad.I got it from the Trial Mountain Endurance and i didn't like it one bit.It spun out all the time so I sold the car.
 
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