Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR *And Hennessey Venom 650R*

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Wow as much as I think Viper suck this one actually looks like something I wouldn't mind having in my garage.
 
Damn, Hennessey really have done it this time. The 2008 Viper is just plain awesome stock, then they add more power to it and now its a killer! :drool: But for some reason, I still feel its just not complete if you know what I mean. If this is going head to head with the Corvette ZR-1, this is very very awkward. They should be using the hard top version instead of the soft top like the one in the photo (or maybe thats just an illustration).This is certainly something to look forward to. 👍
 
If this is going head to head with the Corvette ZR-1, this is very very awkward. They should be using the hard top version instead of the soft top like the one in the photo (or maybe thats just an illustration).

It's an engine-package and new brakes - nothing that can't be applied to the Coupe. It's a tuner-car - it isn't anything officially sent to battle the ZR1. It's just better brakes and more power, essentially.

And who the hell buys closed-top Vipers? It is against the very purpose of a Viper - going fast while everyone hears and sees you.
 
OMG! They put an exhaust and an intake and brakes and badges and then the best part...custom floormats!

Bet it costs $30,000.
 
The Viper SRT-10 ACR goes head to head with some of Europe's finest...and proves it's a beast.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=31&article_id=6461
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any automotive manufacturers tout that their sports-car development programs begin on the racetrack. In fact, enthusiast publications, including this one, often take road-going sports cars to the track to better judge their performance credentials.

If track-focused cars are the ultimate realization of an automaker's capabilities, why not just put them on the road as is? Most would agree that there are many reasons this would be impractical: Ride comfort and day-to-day driveability, issues so critical to a road car, would never be addressed if a car were evaluated solely on its fastest lap time. Hence, automakers inevitably have to make compromises.

For the most hard-core enthusiasts willing to forgo a little civility, manufacturers are turning back the compromise dial and offering barely street-legal racers — in addition to a more road-friendly version of the same model.

So how close can a road-going sports car get in performance to a track-oriented machine born of its own DNA? With this in mind, we considered five pairs of cars to find out for ourselves: the Dodge Viper SRT10 and SRT10 ACR, the Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder and Superleggera, the Porsche 911 Carrera S and GT3 RS, the Chevrolet Corvette Z06 and ZR1, and the Ferrari F430 and 430 Scuderia.

These are all twins forged from the same basic core but with distinct purposes in mind. One is built for the street. The other is intended for the track. Unfortunately, the Corvettes and the Ferraris were not available for our test at press time, so we will give you our best assessment of the similarities and differences of these pairs from previous exposure to them.

We drove the Vipers, the Gallardos and the Porsches on the road to test their street capabilities. We then asked IMSA GTS champion and R&T contributor Steve Millen to wring them out on Willow Springs International Raceway's high-speed road course. At the end of the day, we sought to answer three questions about each higher-performing variant: What do you gain, what do you lose, and is it worth the money?
 
Aww, it's too bad they couldn't get the Scuderia and ZR1 on track. Now that would have been an excellent race between the three of them. I have a feeling that the ACR would still come out on top, though. There's only so much you can do with tires, and the Superleggera and Scuderia both use the same tires. The ZR1 uses the same PS2s as the regular Viper. I think the ZR1 would beat the Viper but not match the ACR, while the Scuderia would be very close to the ACR.
 
I have to agree. Despite what the ZR1 has going for it, it's going to be nearly impossible for it match the Viper's 1200lb of downforce at 150Mph which is where the Corvette is actually producing lift.
 
The ACR seems like a proper racer for the road. It's a hard feat beating cars like that on the track since most cars that "claim" to be race cars for the road arn't. Ofcourse, you wouldn't really use q car like this daily, not if you valued your spine. But that's besides the point, cars like this are usually a second car at the very least, and rightly so. I certainly wouldn't want a Sagaris as my only car, not when it rains so much here anyway.
 
It's hard to compare cars like the ACR and ZR1. One is definitely a track car--the ACR--and the ZR1 is designed as a street car. The stock tires and spoilers make give the ACR a bit of an unfair advantage even though they're stock. But I'm positive the ZR1 will be quicker and faster.
 
I'm positive the ZR1 would be brutally fast, but as a track car, the ACR has it beat completely. Its much better adapted for track use, with the extra aerodynamic bits and pieces and whatnot. Sure, the ZR1 is supposed to be the C6.R for the street in some way, but the Z06 will always be the track car in my book. Its actually kinda similar to the GT3/Turbo relationship over at Porsche...

Still, impressive runs for the Dodge boys!
 
I'm positive the ZR1 would be brutally fast, but as a track car, the ACR has it beat completely. Its much better adapted for track use, with the extra aerodynamic bits and pieces and whatnot. Sure, the ZR1 is supposed to be the C6.R for the street in some way, but the Z06 will always be the track car in my book. Its actually kinda similar to the GT3/Turbo relationship over at Porsche...

Still, impressive runs for the Dodge boys!
I've never thought about that before Brad. Good idea! Make the ZR1 the Turbo of the lineup, and the Z06 the GT3. Hmm...
 
I figured that was always the way people had understood it? I didn't think it was revolutionary!

Personally speaking, it makes more sense that way when you line it up with the other Porsches:

Carrera v Magnaride
Carrera S v Z51
GT3 v Z06
Turbo v ZR1

The ZR1 will be ungodly fast on the street and on the track, but I highly doubt it will be as "pure" of an experience as the Z06. I can't be completely sure, but it is what I assume to be the case...
 
Anyone get the latest issue of R&T? Has a nice comparison between the ACR (pre-production test model) and a normal SRT-10 Coupe and the two cars were VERY different. ACR was more neutral, more racy, more precise while the normal SRT-10 was a bit less precise and you had to fight the car more. The ACR was also 3 seconds faster around Willow Springs Raceway, pulling a 1:29.33 vs a 1:32.19 for the normal SRT-10. The article also had tests of the Gallardo Spyder vs Superleggera (1:34.32 vs 1:32.47) and 997 Carrera S and GT3 RS (1:37.09 vs 1:33.14). They also talked about (but didn't test) the F430 Scud and C6 ZR1.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=31&article_id=6461
 
Anyone get the latest issue of R&T? Has a nice comparison between the ACR (pre-production test model) and a normal SRT-10 Coupe and the two cars were VERY different. ACR was more neutral, more racy, more precise while the normal SRT-10 was a bit less precise and you had to fight the car more. The ACR was also 3 seconds faster around Willow Springs Raceway, pulling a 1:29.33 vs a 1:32.19 for the normal SRT-10. The article also had tests of the Gallardo Spyder vs Superleggera (1:34.32 vs 1:32.47) and 997 Carrera S and GT3 RS (1:37.09 vs 1:33.14). They also talked about (but didn't test) the F430 Scud and C6 ZR1.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=31&article_id=6461

Yep. Posted on previous page. :)
The Viper SRT-10 ACR goes head to head with some of Europe's finest...and proves it's a beast.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=31&article_id=6461
 
Yep. Posted on previous page. :)

Haha, didn't see your post :p
But I am quite impressed at it's performance. Dunno if even I could handle living with a car like that every day though. Hmm, a nice tow vehicle would come in handy in that case....
Bring on the new heavy duty Rams :sly:
 
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