Does anyone like the Spoon Civic Type-R

[fwdtamiya]

Ottoman you are my hero

 

[Ottoman]

Ottoman you are my hero

LOL!

and why is that man? i wasn't saving cats from trees or babies from burning homes

 

[Vietorious]

You know.. other cars has something like "V-TEC" too, but they call it different in every company ^^; I'm too lazy to look it up and post other "V-TEC" names. So you can check it for yourself.

IMO.. the Neon is better without putting any work to it, because its "American" =P

However the Civic looks sexier(the older model with the dash board on the passenger side where you can put your asian toys and furry animal ) and easy swap.. maybe I just like how civic is a "Normal everyday car" with potential, like Motherboards ie. ASUS & ABIT


...and in GT3... I never got the spoon civic yet xD

 

[Ottoman]

You know.. other cars has something like "V-TEC" too, but they call it different in every company ^^; I'm too lazy to look it up and post other "V-TEC" names. So you can check it for yourself.

IMO.. the Neon is better without putting any work to it, because its "American" =P

However the Civic looks sexier(the older model with the dash board on the passenger side where you can put your asian toys and furry animal ) and easy swap.. maybe I just like how civic is a "Normal everyday car" with potential, like Motherboards ie. ASUS & ABIT


...and in GT3... I never got the spoon civic yet xD

yes i'm well aware of Variable Valve timing on other cars

Toyota calls it: VVT-i
Honda now calls it: i-VTEC (now comes with varable valve AND ignition timing)
Nissan call it: VTC
BMW call it: VANOS and Double Vanos (double has varaible valve timing for both intake and exhaust cams)
Opel calls it: ECO-TEC

the list goes on and on... like i posted previously.. Honda became famous for VTEC... but their performance is falsely associated with it...that's not the REAL reason their engines are powerful.. just one of many other factors

 

[Mr.Snowman]

the spoon sir, No sir..I dont like it


RX-7 rocks

 

[del sol man]

👍 Spoon Civic type r rules like all hondas (biased)

 

[Limit Four-Five]

I hate to tell some of you guys this but you should know that V-TEC isnt that great. Sure in low power applications its ok (read R34 Skyline GTS-T with an RB25-DETi with VVT) but in bigger power applications the V-Tec gets ripped off to make way for some correctly set Race-spec cams and adjustible cam gears. I wouldnt mind a Neon out here in Australia cause then id look different not some rice boy. But dont get me wrong i wouldnt mind a CTR either.

 

[Limit Four-Five]

Oh and one other thing a JDM Integra Type R has just about perfect intake and exhaust specs as well as a reletively well tuned ECU straight out of the box as far as i know (Coreect me if im wrong). This is all based on the imported ones we get

 

[Ottoman]

yes. the JDM ITR ECU is the best OEM ecu u can put onto any B series engine
(it's also OBD-I unlike the USDM which is OBD-II)

the Intake manifold is also very good... and the stock Type R headers are used as a Cheaper Upgrade alternative to the aftermarket ones and it does give a good boost... but they are 4-2-1 headers... which are designed to target low-mid range of the power band.. some ppl prefer 4-1 headers to focus all efforts on the top end...


as for the VVT comments...

yes VVT can become a headache...

the last generation of Silvia's (s-15's) and the last year of teh Supra both had VVT... from the box the S-15 made 250hp... but as a pure tuning engine the VTC was more a hinderance then a benefit... so the older generation of SR20's are preffered for making huge power applications... same with the supra.. the previous yrs of 2JZ without VVTi were prefferred...

the problem arises in Tuning the "cross over" point where the cam lobes change from low to high... AND workign in the Boost of the turbo and such..

on the Original engines.. the crossover point is at the RPM point in which Peak TQ is reached in the case of honda's it's 6,500....

a common misconseption...if VTEC was "on" from 1,000 till redline.. your car would be a pile of crap... and using a VAFC-2 to change the Xover point should only be done in conjuction with a dyno... u might actually end up raising the Xover point rather then lowering it....

 

[spike10h]

Neons are for girls. Just like Volkswagon Cabrios and Beetles, and any yellow car, even a Ferrari.

Yea ok, Neons aren't just for girls. I know lots of guys that drive em', I would evn go so far as to say that the makeup of neon drivers is about 50/50. You want a girls car? New eclipses... and most older ones too. Eclipses are mostely girls cars. Alot of older eclipses and EVERY single new eclipse is driven by a girl.(In my town anyway)

 

[SilentRikku27]

The Spoon Civic Type-R is not that bad, and it revs at 16,000 RPM so it is a pretty decent car once fully tuned. But the problem about this car is that it has no torque, but has decent handling to make up for it.

 

[demon of speed]

Spoon Civic rules man, love the black bonnet it's so cool

 

[dreadfist]

Yeah, OK, pal. Whatever. I've got about 2,000 friends - including SCCA National Champion road race drivers, Nats-level autocrossers, and people who drive 12-second Neons to work ever day, who will disagree with that sentiment.

Going to the track on friday nights here, there are several 11 and 12 second daily driven NA honda civics. They sound like lawn mowers, but damn they're quick

 

[HYBRIDLVR]

I like the spoon Civic, It's a real responsive car with great Top end and you gotta love that Carbon Fiber Hood.

 

[Ottoman]

HOLY crap... u think u got enough money there buddy?

 

[HYBRIDLVR]

Well after paying some serious attention to my spendings, I believe you can never have enough!

 

[RX-7 FD Drifter]

its just so crazy how many RPMs it has, I love the goddam thing! 👍

 

[Limit Four-Five]

what is this supposed to prove me? its a spoon tuned b16b......... I already know that. my skepticism was based on my knowledge of the car through BM videos. a couple pictures of an engine won't make me believe the car is that special.

Hate to tell ya mate, but i gotta set some stuff straight. The motor from a Spoon Civic Type-R is not a tuned B16A. The motor is called a P72 as it has a different block with uprated valvesprings, pistons etc. Im not sure whether they use the same head (If Spoon do they would port and polish it thoroughly) on the P72. Also the motor doesnt rev to 16,000 RPM in real life and i dont think it does in the game either. In real life the Spoon only goes to 12,000 RPM.

But all in all the car goes hard.

 

[Ottoman]

Hate to tell ya mate, but i gotta set some stuff straight. The motor from a Spoon Civic Type-R is not a tuned B16A. The motor is called a P72 as it has a different block with uprated valvesprings, pistons etc. Im not sure whether they use the same head (If Spoon do they would port and polish it thoroughly) on the P72. Also the motor doesnt rev to 16,000 RPM in real life and i dont think it does in the game either. In real life the Spoon only goes to 12,000 RPM.

But all in all the car goes hard.

first off he said B16B not b16A.. which is the CTR engine.. which is actually a Destroked version of the B18C which is the ITR engine...

B18C is arguable one of their best engines..

what on earth is P72 MOTOR?? P72 is an OBD-1 Honda ECU... OR u mean the P72 HEAD which is found on the B18C? spoon doesn't sit and design an engine from ground up.. they just "race tune" existing commonly produced honda engines....

if that's not proof enough on the website it states/sells:

B16A ENGINE ASSEMBLY -- $5,880.00
B16B ENGINE ASSEMBLY -- $6,125.00
B18C ENGINE ASSEMBLY -- $6,370.00

 

[Limit Four-Five]

I stand corrected then. Ive never heard of a B16B motor but. Asa far as i know and in every damn CTR ive ever seen i have only ever seen the B16A in CTR's and the B18C in ITR's but this B16B motor i have never heard of, would sound about right but if it was a destroked B18C (dont know why youd want to do this but) From what i read somewhere ages ago the P72 used to be one of Spoons motors but maybe it was a head. Best motor for a civic straight from honda IMHO is the B16A/B18C 'frankinstein' motor, as it has their better head on their better block. Or if you are in Australia I have heard of a company that used a Honda HR-V 3 litre block on a B16A head to create a 3 litre Frankinstein motor.

About the B18C being their best motor, IMHO i think that the H22A or the motor from the NSX-R (cant remember its name something like C32A or something) are their best. The ITR's B18C is just about perfect from the factory so there isnt a lot you can do in a bolt on sense when you get one.

Another awesome motor is Mugen's B18C 2.0ltr version. It goes hard. Expensive though.

 

[GameBoyFX]

The car revs to about 17,000 in the game if im not mistakein 💡

 

[Limit Four-Five]

The car revs to about 17,000 in the game if im not mistakein 💡

I only thought it went to 12,000 , but id have to check. I know that the Polyphony 001 and Polyphony 002 go to closer to 18,000 before the limiter comes in, I think thats where it is anyway

 

[GameBoyFX]

ya the spoon civic says it goes up to 18k but limit is about 17k

you should get the car b4 u say annything

 

[Limit Four-Five]

ya the spoon civic says it goes up to 18k but limit is about 17k

you should get the car b4 u say annything

ROFLMAO hate to tell you bud but I do own it. So to use your own quote against you, You should ask the me if i had the car before assuming that i didnt.

I just havent played the game in about 2 months, let alone used the Spoon Civic Type-R. Like im going to remember every little thing about every car I own in the game after 2 months. Ive got like 130 of them geeez i aint got no photographic memory or nothing here.

Sorry if i seem a little aggrivated, Ive just spent the last hour playing with Microsoft Excel and its soooo boring. (Stupid course not letting me move ahead)

 

[GameBoyFX]

i just assumed, ya know... I sure resarch things b4 i answer *raises eyebrow* i assumed you didnt have it cause most ppl Check first, or atleast i do

 

[Ottoman]

I stand corrected then. Ive never heard of a B16B motor but. Asa far as i know and in every damn CTR ive ever seen i have only ever seen the B16A in CTR's and the B18C in ITR's but this B16B motor i have never heard of, would sound about right but if it was a destroked B18C (dont know why youd want to do this but) From what i read somewhere ages ago the P72 used to be one of Spoons motors but maybe it was a head. Best motor for a civic straight from honda IMHO is the B16A/B18C 'frankinstein' motor, as it has their better head on their better block. Or if you are in Australia I have heard of a company that used a Honda HR-V 3 litre block on a B16A head to create a 3 litre Frankinstein motor.

About the B18C being their best motor, IMHO i think that the H22A or the motor from the NSX-R (cant remember its name something like C32A or something) are their best. The ITR's B18C is just about perfect from the factory so there isnt a lot you can do in a bolt on sense when you get one.

Another awesome motor is Mugen's B18C 2.0ltr version. It goes hard. Expensive though.

what u speak of is quite common.. (called hybrid motors) i even considered an LS-VTEC engine for my car.. or CR-VTEC...

but i must disagree... B18C Head and block is better then the b16a... B18C is after all is the foundation of the Type R engines... and it's a much stronger block.. ppl bolt on T3/T4's to the b18C and push 450 WHEEL horsepower...


H22A by itself is a Good motor (considered swapping that too)... but it comes in several diff trims.. ranging from 200-220 HP... (Euro Accord has 220)
the problem is that the engine mounts require modifcation as does the wiring harness and u have to sacrifice power steering and on occosion AC...(B18C just drops right in) the engine is also 75 lbs or so heavier and if u'r car is low it will become lower... on top of this the engine is bigger and sits lower in the car as well.. which means bottoming out the headers/oil pan is real easy if not careful...
the other down sides to the H22a is the slow and low revving characteristics... outta the box u're taking the B18C upto 8,500-8,700 RPM... h22a is only 7,500 or something...

the biggest disadvantage of the H22a vs the B18C is the tall gear ratios... the h22a's rpm Drops really low between 2 3 4 gears coupled with it's slow revving is really annoying ...

B18C has ALOT of untapped potential as it not nearly maxed out as u think...

for a street use mildly tuned car B18C is a much better choice...
if u're lookin for a Drag only ALL MOTOR monster then H22a is the way to go...


of course teh NSX's engine is great.. but how many ppl can find one or afford one for a swap?

 

[GrItSn'GrAVy]

I love dirving that thing with the fully souped up b-16 type r and the spoon sw388 rims the only weigh in at 12lbs. total. it kills the egular civic type r which has around 440 hp. pretty all out good car for me.

 

[RX-7 FD Drifter]

ya the spoon civic says it goes up to 18k but limit is about 17k

you should get the car b4 u say annything

that is true

 

[Uncle Harry]

I like the Spoon Civic type R.
The Tacho is graduated up to 18, 000 rpm with the red line starting at 16,000 RPM. It will rev to approx 17,250 rpm when fitted with all upgrades.

 

[kikkoman]

U kids think hondas are fast? is that what i hear talking about money i spent 2k on my car has 265 hp out of a 1.6L turbo charged engine and AWD now thats a quick car kiddies

*hi five to the guy with the mazda gtx*

Great little beasts.

Perfect to hit any car by surprise as they do not look "fast".