Drag Racing at SSRX (Read Carefully)

[T51R]

I'd trust him T. Its pretty much the only way to save yourself on here it looks like dude.

Ummm, don't be accusing me of cheating without proof mate, been over this a thousand times. It don't look like that at all so please don't get involved your not really involved in this.

Hey Hostility, cool story bro, hope you enjoyed having your time wasted, I enjoyed it. What does your message have to do with anything here again?

KT: I did provide numerous videos mate, I showed one running 9.004 with no brake trick or SRF then I submitted one running 9.007 with no SRF but my telemetry wasn't showed due to seeing my speed which I don't want people to copy. If people see the speeds I do in each gear, they will get a better idea. Logic says that if I can do 9.004 without brakes or SRF, then 9.007 is easy, which it is and as I said to the others, only reason it's a 9.007 and not 9.004 is because I shifted based of sound rather than rpm because I turned it off.

 

[Slash]

But uh, we've proved this. Been over it a thousand times, don't you know? lol


Oh its about how you stiffed DLR when he called you out. Afraid much?

 

[ChevyManDan]

Ummm, don't be accusing me of cheating without proof mate, been over this a thousand times. It don't look like that at all so please don't get involved your not really involved in this.

Hey Hostility, cool story bro, hope you enjoyed having your time wasted, I enjoyed it. What does your message have to do with anything here again?

What you are is a waste of time... Now if everybody here just ignores you, you will just fade away~

 

[Slash]

Put him on you ignore list, just blocks his posts.

 

[MisterEads]

Ummm, don't be accusing me of cheating without proof mate, been over this a thousand times. It don't look like that at all so please don't get involved your not really involved in this.

Hey Hostility, cool story bro, hope you enjoyed having your time wasted, I enjoyed it. What does your message have to do with anything here again?

I didn't say anything.
I don't care what you do, as long as everyone , including you, shuts up about this retardation.

 

[Slash]

i didn't say anything.
I don't care what you do, as long as everyone , including you, shuts up about this retardation.

+1

 

[MisterEads]

Now...stop arguing and do whatever it takes to prove it. You're wasting my phones cookie data. It should be full of anything else...like facts of dirt, it would be more interesting.

 

[T51R]

But uh, we've proved this. Been over it a thousand times, don't you know? lol


Oh its about how you stiffed DLR when he called you out. Afraid much?

Proven what? Nothing has been proven here except there seems to be a lot of new guys round here that seem to know all the cheats and happy to accuse others, but cannot prove jacksquat about any of them being useful enough to improve upon the current benchmark to date, let alone what is really possible.

 

[Maccer_42]

I just tryed this brake thing myself on an R34 Skyline, and after some practice I was able to do it without the red brake bar filling up at all but no matter how lightly and breifly I pressed the brakes I always got a huge rise in G's 1.62 normal increased to 1.80 And i'm not sure the time gain you get from this would off-set a detuned car with lower G's. So doing this trick while keeping the G's normal certainly must require a very delicate touch.
With that being said the brake lights will always come on no matter how lightly it's pressed which will be a dead give away if you notice this happen online.

I realise what i've realy doesn't bring anything new to this disscusion but I just felt like sharing my experiment with it.

 

[KTalloutdrags]

Ummm, don't be accusing me of cheating without proof mate, been over this a thousand times. It don't look like that at all so please don't get involved your not really involved in this.

Hey Hostility, cool story bro, hope you enjoyed having your time wasted, I enjoyed it. What does your message have to do with anything here again?

KT: I did provide numerous videos mate, I showed one running 9.004 with no brake trick or SRF then I submitted one running 9.007 with no SRF but my telemetry wasn't showed due to seeing my speed which I don't want people to copy. If people see the speeds I do in each gear, they will get a better idea. Logic says that if I can do 9.004 without brakes or SRF, then 9.007 is easy, which it is and as I said to the others, only reason it's a 9.007 and not 9.004 is because I shifted based of sound rather than rpm because I turned it off.

well post the video here. and who cares about speed, like someone is going to go through all that trouble.

and in eads defence, he wasnt inferring your a cheater, he was inferring that it dosnt matter if you are or not, because solid total proof is the only way to dig yourself out of this hole that people are putting you in. if this makes sense.

 

[Slash]

He has no respect from anyone around here anymore. It's not like he's slow anyways, its the fact he feels the need to cheat. You would have more of a chance to be chill with everyone if you came clean to begin with. Any chance of redemption now is lost.

 

[KTalloutdrags]

I just tryed this brake thing myself on an R34 Skyline, and after some practice I was able to do it without the red brake bar filling up at all but no matter how lightly and breifly I pressed the brakes I always got a huge rise in G's 1.62 normal increased to 1.80 And i'm not sure the time gain you get from this would off-set a detuned car with lower G's. So doing this trick while keeping the G's normal certainly must require a very delicate touch.
With that being said the brake lights will always come on no matter how lightly it's pressed which will be a dead give away if you notice this happen online.

I realise what i've realy doesn't bring anything new to this disscusion but I just felt like sharing my experiment with it.

out of curiosity did you lower the back springs fully? and its just for ssrx times not online, thankfully.

i think i just double posted... SORRY!!

 

[Swara]

Proven what? Nothing has been proven here except there seems to be a lot of new guys round here that seem to know all the cheats and happy to accuse others, but cannot prove jacksquat about any of them being useful enough to improve upon the current benchmark to date, let alone what is really possible.

Oh, he was talking about when iWinYouLooz contacted you and you didn't respond. Ya know. Typical stuff.

 

[Slash]

Oh, he was talking about when iWinYouLooz contacted you and you didn't respond. Ya know. Typical stuff.

He's afraid he'd lose.

 

[Maccer_42]

out of curiosity did you lower the back springs fully? and its just for ssrx times not online, thankfully.

i think i just double posted... SORRY!!

Nope made no adjustments to my tune so far, normal full throttle launch I get 9.302 @1.62G's with brake trick my time went down to 9.291 @1.80G's
I'm going to start experimenting on seeing if detuning my susspension to get lower G's when normal can be used to hide this brake trick.

But i'm guessing the gain from using this brake trick wont be enough to make up for time lost due to a detuned suspension.

BUT, it might be possible to do this trick without increasing G's but I don't have a delicate enough touch to do it.

 

[KTalloutdrags]

Nope made no adjustments to my tune so far, normal full throttle launch I get 9.302 @1.62G's with brake trick my time went down to 9.291 @1.80G's
I'm going to start experimenting on seeing if detuning my susspension to get lower G's when normal can be used to hide this brake trick.

But i'm guessing the gain from using this brake trick wont be enough to make up for time lost due to a detuned suspension.

BUT, it might be possible to do this trick without increasing G's but I don't have a delicate enough touch to do it.

nah thats part of the trick, lower the rear spring rate fully, i think he said so in the op. try that out.

 

[T51R]

well post the video here. and who cares about speed, like someone is going to go through all that trouble.

and in eads defence, he wasnt inferring your a cheater, he was inferring that it dosnt matter if you are or not, because solid total proof is the only way to dig yourself out of this hole that people are putting you in. if this makes sense.

You'd be suprised the PM's I have already got from people asking about the smallest little things in the video I made, I knew they would dissect it trying to figure it out, I also knew they wouldn't be able to because my time is legit.

He has no respect from anyone around here anymore. It's not like he's slow anyways, its the fact he feels the need to cheat. You would have more of a chance to be chill with everyone if you came clean to begin with. Any chance of redemption now is lost.

You speak for everyone round here do you? I don't think so. Are you again accusing me of cheating without proof?

 

[Maccer_42]

nah thats part of the trick, lower the rear spring rate fully, i think he said so in the op. try that out.

Just tryed it with min rear spring rate. and My G's went down to 1.72 this time but my time slowed down to 9.304

So I would need to detune my suspension a whole lot more to get it down to a normal 1.62G's with this trick, but like I guessed the time lost from a detuned suspenssion is too much for this brake trick to make back up.

Either this trick doesn't work as well on the R34 but I see no reason why it wouldn't. Or you need an incredibly fine and insanly quick touch on the brakes so the G's don't rise.

 

[Slash]

You'd be suprised the PM's I have already got from people asking about the smallest little things in the video I made, I knew they would dissect it trying to figure it out, I also knew they wouldn't be able to because my time is legit.



You speak for everyone round here do you? I don't think so. Are you again accusing me of cheating without proof?

I don't speak for everyone. I'm merely telling you to your face how everyone else is feeling in case you happen to be blind enough to miss it. When did I ever accuse you of cheating in my last post you just quited? Oh, that's right. I didn't. When will you understand that anything you is of no importance to anyone.

It's pretty clear....

 

[KTalloutdrags]

You'd be suprised the PM's I have already got from people asking about the smallest little things in the video I made, I knew they would dissect it trying to figure it out, I also knew they wouldn't be able to because my time is legit.



You speak for everyone round here do you? I don't think so. Are you again accusing me of cheating without proof?

well the only proof they cant dissect then, in my mind, is as i said before, is by trusting me and letting me use the tune, and you teach me how to accomplish the time. i will try for days if need be to be fair. but you need to trust me, and as i said i will delete it right after, and wont try to remember any piece of the tune. besides i dont need the tune, im too into forza right now. and im plenty fast to make my own.

@maccer- i see, ok bud thanks for testing it out atleast.

@slash- anwser your frickin phone kid!! lol

 

[T51R]

I don't speak for everyone. I'm merely telling you to your face how everyone else is feeling in case you happen to be blind enough to miss it. When did I ever accuse you of cheating in my last post you just quited? Oh, that's right. I didn't. When will you understand that anything you is of no importance to anyone.

It's pretty clear....

You know everyone elses' feelings? You seem to be some god too, you should be able to recreate my times and videos too! You said something was proven, what? if anything Maccer has just disproved it by way of providing the most trusted word other than this OP who coincidentally just joined the site after my times were posted. The OP should have used a decent time for reference, not some shabby slow time I could replicate with 100bhp less.

 

[Slash]

Welcome to the internet, where personal feelings don't matter. Man up and grow a pair dude. Like for real. Because I called a way of organising something done you're getting all butthurt over it. Grow up.

 

[KTalloutdrags]

why do i feel like you are avoiding my posts T5.

 

[T51R]

Because you're off topic, that's why.

 

[Hyperspeed]

You know everyone elses' feelings? You seem to be some god too, you should be able to recreate my times and videos too! You said something was proven, what? if anything Maccer has just disproved it by way of providing the most trusted word other than this OP who coincidentally just joined the site after my times were posted. The OP should have used a decent time for reference, not some shabby slow time I could replicate with 100bhp less.

There's a lot of people testing this out and guess what. The reason nobody has produced a video with the same time as you is because it's a hack you figured out that can only be applied offline

 

[T51R]

You guys really need to stop calling me a cheat without hard evidence before you get into trouble.

Back on topic i hope: Maccer, do you think that there is any chance you could do this enough to make a .020 gap over the top times?

 

[KTalloutdrags]

Because you're off topic, that's why.

no i feel like you are avoiding giving me the tune for what ever reason i dont know. im trying to help you, but by not accepting it, your only hurting yourself.

edit: im going to dinner, while im eating, please explain why you seem to refuse to give me tune when im just trying to help you.

 

[Slash]

Because you're off topic, that's why.

There was nothing off topic about his posts.

 

[T51R]

no i feel like you are avoiding giving me the tune for what ever reason i dont know. im trying to help you, but by not accepting it, your only hurting yourself.

I' not avoiding giving it to you mate, i'm simply not giving it to you? What reason do I have to trust you? I don't know you. Even if I did know you, you still wouldn't get it because you're not part of my tuning group.

 

[Maccer_42]

No problem KT just trying to help get to the bottom of this trick so it can be understood better, I always feel trying to experiment with tricks like this and understanding whats needed to do it is more important than keeping it in the dark so less people know it about. That way people are able to point it out if they notice it being used.

But so far i havnt been able to replicate the OP's results, Im going to try an 09 GTR spec V next as thats what he used. But first I have to break one in then tune it which will take a little while.

Back on topic i hope: Maccer, do you think that there is any chance you could do this enough to make a .020 gap over the top times?

Im unsure, so far with the R34 I havn't. I would have to detune the suspension way to much to hide any G increase but this trick wont make up enough time to counteract the lost time from the detuned suspension. But I might be too heavy handed, doing this trick so that the brake bar doesn't fill even in the slightest is rather easy, doing it without G increase is turning out to be quite a challenge, Thats why i'm going to try it on the 09 GTR next to see if that car hides the G increase easier.