Drift king Bio?

[Famine]

Funny though.

 

[240Z]

Originally posted by rollazn
Well, I dont.

Then go away.

 

[rollazn]

I did but now I return just to annoy you.

 

[240Z]

Bleah.

 

[Da_King]

- 12-03-03 @ 11:29 PM (Post #18)

U cant really drift in a FF its more of a pwoer slide.



Regards The Porko

I was replying to the porko, whom does not know about what powersliding is, not anything to do with this weak arguement

 

[Da_King]

ohhh, yeah, no, you can drift and ff, its called inertia control, not powersliding, meaning, the shifting of weight, yes it is possible to drift it, and this world record is weak, drifting is controling tailslip to a level of control, right before it spipns out, famine, have you actually watched Simon De Banks record? although most people cant do it, it is more on conserving petrol rather than skill, its all about money, and how much money is put into a car, i respect a drivers skillsl. And no, although i believe most (not all cars) can drift, its how you go about it.

 

[Famine]

Actually, it was a stock Impreza. Money doesn't come into it.

If his record is "weak", why has it not been beaten? Someone give me an adequate answer to this, please.

 

[rollazn]

Ill give you an answer. This is coming from the best 14 year old drifter in the world EVA... "It is boring!" Who wants to drift in a circle for that amount of time? The only thing it will get you are your name in book of world records, on the news, and get alot of girls. But who needs that. I dont and im the best drifter in the world. Eva!!





With all seriousness, I dont know. How many have attempted to brake his record after he set it? If alot has tried but fail then yeah, but I doubt that much people have try to brake it. Also wasnt it done in the rain?

 

[rollazn]

"Basically the laws of physics won't allow it. See with a rear wheel drive car power is coming from the back so that basically means that you can slide the tail out and control the movement by countering with the front wheels. With a front wheel drive both the power and countering wheels are up front so it eliminates the possibilty of drifting grouped turns. A demonstration would be taking a rwd car and finding an open parking lot. Get up to a good speed and then just yank the steering wheel back and forth and you will start fishtailing. This can not be done with a ff and and drifitng is almost like fishtailing around turns. Of course this doesn't mean that you can't take your ff and throw it around turns because you can. Dave of Slide Squad does it pretty successfully with his Civic but the fact of the matter is that it's not drifting. A term that has become pretty popularized from the Velocity BBS is ass dragging."

Basically I agree with that.



Aside from that I got some news on Keiichi Tsuchiya. He is my favorite driver on BM, and possibly my favorite racer of all time. I dont think hes the fastest or the best drifter but he just amazed me. I think its his driving style and personality and humor that impress me. He always seem to have a smile and laughing even when he is hit in a race or nearly in an accident. Anyways... I knew that Keiichi was in a Nascar events. One of mention was held in Japan and he was "accidentally" forced off the track by an American driver. Seeing no chance to recover and place high he instead drifted, yes I said drifted, his Nascar! Now thats crazy, but what really is amazing is... that he drifted a F1 car. One of the F1 event, he actually drift it. I know hes not the first guy who did that but its impressive. no doubt.

Ill retire from being the best 14 year old drifter now im just a normal little asian kid. Aside from the little fact, because I am quite large. 5'11

 

[Famine]

Originally posted by rollazn
Ill give you an answer. This is coming from the best 14 year old drifter in the world EVA... "It is boring!" Who wants to drift in a circle for that amount of time? The only thing it will get you are your name in book of world records, on the news, and get alot of girls. But who needs that. I dont and im the best drifter in the world. Eva!!





With all seriousness, I dont know. How many have attempted to brake his record after he set it? If alot has tried but fail then yeah, but I doubt that much people have try to brake it. Also wasnt it done in the rain?

I have a feeling the thinly-veiled sarcasm may go over a few heads there...

It was done in the dry, in a stock Impreza (although it had LOADS of stickers on it, so it must have had at least a kajillion horsepower).

I am unaware of anyone trying it before or since - possibly because it's actually quite difficult to do. Or because it's SO easy that anyone could do it and it's not a challenge, or something.

 

[spike10h]

Originally posted by Famine
Whatever a keyboard warrior is.

I'd be willing to bet it's impossible to drift a Ligier. Testicular diameter notwithstanding, it's a 20hp, FF with a wheelbase shorter than the average penis.

Something like this!?!?

HAHAHAHA Its like an enclosed go kart!
why even bother to have that "backseat" window?

 

[87chevy]

HOLY CRAP! PEOPLE BUY THOSE?


(obvisously they do... but dang, that barely classifies as an automobile!)

 

[spike10h]

they must, I'd buy one for the pure novelty of it. Although, it's not good to use for dates(if you know what i mean.)

 

[Da_King]

umm, yeah Simon de banks car wasnt stock, and the point is, that it doesnt take skill to do it, just decent base car, watch "best motoring: Drift bible", then you will agree with me that he is a better driver than simon de bank.

 

[Famine]

Yes it was.

If it takes no skill and a decent base car - and there must be hundreds of those around the world - why has it not been surpassed yet and is still a standing world record?

Answer this adequately, or quit saying how easy it is.

 

[Da_King]

first, tell me what skill simon de bank used in the world record, he admit his prolbem was fuel consumption, not car handling, PLZ tell me, did his skill invole any form of difficult drift teqniques? Keiichi is the drift king, i mean, did he perform, such complicated task such as side, feint, braking, shift lock drifts?
PLZ answer me this???? Ohhh yeah, i admit, Simon de bank is a good driver, but he doesnt have **** on the japanese drifters, Go watch D1, go see what Keiichi did.... because i seen both, and it is obvious, who was a better driver.
The record is not like the 100 meter dash, which is a tastful record, its like that guy in india whom rolled on the ground across his country, he made the world record, does that make him the best roller in the world?, it doesnt mean ****, it means he has too much time on his hands, to prove a stupid record. Be a hero and prove me wrong, challenge me if you must, but im sure that you know it would be harder to do what keiichi does, than the record

 

[Party for GT4]

The reason it is challenging is because it isn't to do with how long you can drift for. He stopped drifting because it ran out of fuel. You see what you really need is a car with a gigantic fuel tank and easy smooth power.

Simon never claimed he was the best drifter in the world, he did it because he wanted to. The car was a standard UK Subaru Impreza WRX with 215bhp. It was however, on a damp constant radius circle, though.

 

[rollazn]

I never said it was easy. For all I know its very difficult. That record lasted for around 2 hours, therefore he must be very tired. I am fat and lazy, I couldnt do it more than 5 minute so I give him props. I know that there are drifters out there that can easily beat this record if they wanted too.

Keiichi Tsuchiya is a great drifter. He held a drift around a tight track for 30 second. Thats pretty hard. Continue a slide to another slide to another slide.... connecting it around the tight turns. He also drifted a Nascar and a F1 car so I give him props for that also.

Anyways my summary....

Simon de Banks is probably very skilled, hold the record for longest drift in a damp constant radius circle. (I know that his tires wouldnt hold if it was on dry ground.)

Most of us would agree that Keiichi Tsuchiya is probably the better drifter around the track for events like D1. Although hes not the best, hes up there. I bet there are drifters in D1 that can easily out drift Keiichi Tsuchiya. That is not why he is named the drift king.

"Drifting a car through a corner is not the fastest way around most turns any racecar driver will tell you strait out. This is where Keiichi Tsuchiya was crowned the Dori Kin or Drift King. In Option drift contests; style and technique are evaluated for exhibition values. Lately contests have been judged on racing lines and setup for multiple corner drifting, this is more difficult. Back in 1977 Keiichi began his racing career driving many different cars in amateur racing series events. Racing these underpowered cars was difficult but again a great learning experience. Later Keiichi was picked up to drive the ADVAN sponsored AE86/1984 Corolla GT-S. During many races on a downhill corner he would drift the car and carry a better corner speed than his competitors. This technique is what made him the Drift King not as most believe that he was first in the drift scene. As he proved his style of driving his reputation grew. He is a racecar driver now and still takes to the mountains for illegal racing this also made his reputation grow. After videos featuring him and his persistent mountain running/Drifting his driver’s license was suspended! For a professional racecar driver this was embarrassing. Unknowingly this worked to his advantage, his fan base and fame began to expand. You could say that he is a rebel of some sort or because he was just a person who went from nowhere to success out of determination with no racing background. He still has a bond for an old car that he grew up racing, drifting, and winning with, the Toyota AE86. You can see this by his video series dedicated to this car that is called AE86 Club. Toyota itself also felt that he is the person to represent the car most and presented him a restored AE86 through TRD."

 

[Famine]

Originally posted by Da_King
first, tell me what skill simon de bank used in the world record, he admit his prolbem was fuel consumption, not car handling

Could you do it? If yes, then go and do it, break the world record and laugh at Simon de Banke. If no then there's clearly a skill involved.

He didn't run out of fuel, he changed up to 3rd gear and the car tightened it's line.

I have no doubt that the "Japanese drifters" can drive around a track sideways better - I'd imagine some of the drifters of other nationalities can too (but of course drifting, and everything else, came out of Japan, right?). But none of them hold a world record in doing it. That was my one and only point - and I'm not claiming that de Banke is better than any of them either (and he's not claiming it either). You have YET to prove that anyone else can do what de Banke did (and please spell his name right - it's courteous), yet you still argue that he has no skill. And now you've resorted to swearing - that'll win you the argument for sure.

If it's skill-free, go out and do it - what's a couple of hours to get your name in the Guiness Book of Records? Otherwise you can shut up.

 

[DQuaN]

*applause*