DRIFTING! Good or Bad?

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DRIFTING! Good or Bad?

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Sorry, I'm new, but just need to ask... what's drifting! Just need a brief discription and thouoght this thread would be the best place to ask.:)
 
Originally posted by Apex Killer

I do not suggest trying to drift a FF without E-brake until you REALLY know what you are doing.
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Mike, i wouldn't suggest drifting, period, unless you really know what you're doing.
 
Originally posted by Leone
I think i know ruflfy what it is.
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Drifting is driving with massive oversteer so that you purposely take turns with the car sideways. It's been popular in Japan for a few years and has reached America in the last year or two.

It was first done in real life, but it's popular with a certain segment of the GT3 crowd because it's cheaper and doesn't require a driver's license or car...
 
Originally posted by T13R
Like shifting the weight of the rear by slightly turning left, and immediately turning right ( or vice versa ) to induce massive oversteer and let the rear end go sideways.
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Thats called a FEINT drift, and yes, it can be done without the e-brake, but I like usin the ebrake, great way to do a quick 180 if u spin out during a race or something
 
Originally posted by neon_duke
It was first done in real life, but it's popular with a certain segment of the GT3 crowd because it's cheaper and doesn't require a driver's license or car...
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:lol:
 
Originally posted by Apex Killer
The thing with FF drift is you need to enter the corner with a TON of speed. Once you start the drift once you put the power down you will pull out of it. You also will have a hard time linking tight corners. It is very hard to carry the speed between corners if there is no straight to build more speed.
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Yes, and I figured that out the hard way.... :(
 
Originally posted by neon_duke
Umm, correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't you already answered this question? It seems to me that you've summed it up pretty well in the first post and there's not much point in going over it again.
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Tru, tru, but I still want to hear other peoples opinions on this topic is all.
 
Originally posted by MiXx
Thats called a FEINT drift, and yes, it can be done without the e-brake, but I like usin the ebrake, great way to do a quick 180 if u spin out during a race or something
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It's also called the Swedish Flick, after the Scandinavian rally drivers who use it to set up for sharp turns on loose surfaces. It unsettles the suspension so that the car responds very quickly to the actual turn-in.

Interestingly enough, aerobatic pilots use a similar technique. At the start of a big maneuver, they'll quickly waggle the stick just a bit. This breaks the air's adhesion to the wing surface and makes the plane non-aerodynamic momentarily. With the wing surfaces unloaded the pilot can throw the plane into a very drastic maneuver quickly.
 
Originally posted by neon_duke
It's also called the Swedish Flick, after the Scandinavian rally drivers who use it to set up for sharp turns on loose surfaces. It unsettles the suspension so that the car responds very quickly to the actual turn-in.

Interestingly enough, aerobatic pilots use a similar technique. At the start of a big maneuver, they'll quickly waggle the stick just a bit. This breaks the air's adhesion to the wing surface and makes the plane non-aerodynamic momentarily. With the wing surfaces unloaded the pilot can throw the plane into a very drastic maneuver quickly.
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First time ive heard that name.... Ive also heard it called the inertia drift, as you are using your cars built up inertia to sweep the car into a different angle very quickly. The word Feint actually came from fencing, which it is a fake move to fool your opponent to guard agianst something that is going in a different direction, same with the drift, if you use it as a mind game. If you feint when in front of someone, they are usually so concenterated on following your line that it confuses them, one minute you look like your loosing control....then instantly, the arse end of the car slides around and your setup perfectly for the next drift.....great stuff ;) (Want to see it? Inital D Battle 01, Act 1: The Ultimate Tofu Store Drift)

Originally posted by neon_duke
Alrighty, so we know that now you can use the quote tags, but can you do mulitple quotes in one post?
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Happy now? :D
 
Originally posted by Klostrophobic
It's good if you like it. I don't have any reason to hate it.

I just hate the average person who likes drifting.
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Yeah, I'm going to have to go with you on this one. I'm not even going to read the rest of the thread.
 
Well ive been reading up some stuff, and I noticed something. Where did this stuff about drifting not being the fastest way around a corner come from? Ive drifted a hairpin, and ive "gripped" through a hairpin, and I got through it faster drifitng. And on easy turns, if I drift, I dont have to slow down....but when I grip I have to either let off the gass or pump the brakes.......

But hey, thats my opinion.
 
Exhibition drift is rarely faster through a corner... regular safe grip is never the fastest way through a corner... It is when you use the characteristics of tires not being rigid to emply slip angles that you have found the fastest way around a corner... and as people use grip and drift in todays world niether is what i have described so both are slow and DUMB...

i always thought the other name for fient drift was scandinavian flick... not swedish... although that would work as well...
 
Drifting (exhibition-style drifting, anyway) can sometimes be the fastest way THROUGH a corner. However, it won't lead to good lap times because your exit speed would be much lower than if you followed a traditional racing line, and exit speed is of utmost importance in racing.

Now, the traditional four-wheel drift was seen much more in racing in the past, but is much more subtle than exhibition-style tail-out drifting, and can be fast but not so much now with modern tires whose characteristics on the edge of adhesion are much more severe.

Watch some F1 races from before the era of aerodynamic downforce (i.e., 1967 or earlier) and you'll see what I mean.
 
Tru, and tires have alot ot do with it. on AWD cars, todays tires are too tacky to drift with all 4 wheels. Thats why I go with ADVAN, some of the greatest drift tires ive every used. Too bad I dun have enough $$$ to buy them for my new WRX..... I got some crappy neogen tires that came with the rims (package). But yeah, in 4 wheel drifitng, its vary rare to see someone lose any speed since your not losing any momentum.
 
It wasnt only the aero... the tire sidewalls thmselves deformed at high load... and then you attempted to turn the wheels... the tire contact patch was still pointed in the direction of previous motion... thus when you had your wheels straight after initiating a turn... the car would still turn for some time... It is still the fastest way around any particular corner... In general exhibition drift will grant you higher entrance speeds and reduced braking distances... It can however grant you a higher or equally fast exit speed if you regain grip after sliding so you point in the correct direction... Theoretically you should be able to stay ahead of another driver in a hairpin if you drift because you control the entrance and exit speeds.... exhibition drift should rarely be used in races... most likely never
 
For those of you that talk trash about drift check this out!

This past weekend we (US Drift) did a demo at the Grand Am race at VIR. During the weekend Randy Pobst (The famous sports car racing guy, has raced LeMans and so on) comes up to me and wants to get involved in drift. he then goes to the track and borrows one of their staff cars, a Ford Crown Vic. and comes and drifts with us during one of the demos. We also had 3 GA Cup drivers run with us.

Now for all of those that say it's crap and so on. All I have to say is that racers who get paid BIG to race come and drift and have a TON of fun and are now planning on building cars to run with us next year. Drift is REAL!
 
Originally posted by MiXx
FINALLY! Someone that knows all the info I did not! Thanx for the info :) And all that is true (not sure about him bein the US Drift Association Manager tho, but hey, he IS a new member). Its great to have someone that knows what hes talking about, rather than me going on information that I either read or was told by someone
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Apex Killer > yuo newb.
 
drifting is not good for tracks driving... u better off with grip driving.... drift is only nice if u want to showoff on the track..... grip driving is better because u test the tires, blance, cornering, and power of the car.
 
drifting is not good for tracks driving... u better off with grip driving.... drift is only nice if u want to showoff on the track..... grip driving is better because u test the tires, blance, cornering, and power of the car.
 
I guess since im always in the drifters forum i have to represent my vote that goes towards good.

I like drifting just because, well i think its fun.

Also a good thing aobut drifting in real life is that it has a built in rice filter: skill

I think xzfit said this once in the drifters forum and i agree and most gt3/rl drifters would also.
 
I like drifting, and I hate people who think that if a driver gets in car it means he has to follow a perfect line and put in the best lap times possible.
Drifting is for the joy of the crowds (at drifting shows of course) and for display of car control. A beautiful, decent drift is a beautiful, decent thing.
 
Originally posted by Cano
THAT IS PRECISELY the thing that I HATE. every new member of GTP comes in with the word "drift" on their nick, with a drifting car in their avatar, with some drift-related thing on their sig, and even in their location. if I see one of those dudes, from the get-go I dont take him seriously... just look at my sig. the incredible mainstreamed thing that drifting has become makes it absolutely lame, even if its not at all, as I recall that controlling a car in those conditions should be a real hell. but then this 13 tear old dude comes in and tells you that drifting is "Da sihznit yo!!!" and behind him a thousand or so people, AGH...
Drifting isnt that popular in mexico, thank god, but it is starting to infiltrate in the rice-magazine coverage and it might catch up really soon, as with all the rice thing. I just hope they dont make a movie about drifting (think driftfast driftfurious) because that would be it.

Cano

Im tellin the GTP member thing because its in this forum that I have catched a glimpse of what driftin does right now. I dont have a manifestation of that over here, the only one I have its on this forum, and its this annoying. To think that its like that just in an intenet forum makes me scary :nervous:
what if the whole thing really grows in here, and I find that kinda people and that kinda cars everywhere???
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
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BTW, JGTC is true automotive adrenaline. Drifting is all about skill, but leave the racing skills to the pro's. So no, I have no problem with kids learning to drift, its street racing that's killing innocent people, not drifting
 
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