Sphinx
@sukerkin,
I don't see a problem with drivers saying whatever they feel about their car, or anyone else's car for that matter.
It's not as if this discussion has turned into a flame war, it's about drivers having different opinions, and to be honest it interests me to know how others see things.
Quite true, my friend. I just thought that there was a little too much accentuation of the negative and hoped that drivers could step back a little and see that things weren't all that bad
.
You're especially right about it not turning into a flame war, which is a good reflection on the participants 👍.
Sphinx
For example, you still claim the BMW is better on the "twisty stuff", even though I showed this not to be the case when I tested and compared both cars at Tsubuka (Tsubuka = "twisty stuff"?)
I spent over an hour to get the BMW time of 1'48.151 in time trial and only 10 laps to get 1'48.263 in the CLK. I would think the data provided here is enough proof to rule that notion incorrect, and yet you continue to state otherwise.
Interesting.
Interesting indeed
. It appears we have an inverse relationship with these two cars ... want to swap?
. I can only say that, in my previously posted wordles, I was at pains to try and make clear that different drivers will be better in different cars and that's what makes absolute balance impossible in any multi-car race series. I
did single out the BMW as an example because (points to above noted 'inverse relationship'
) for
me it is clearly superior by a large margin. Just like you, I jumped into the 'other' car after a session in my 'own' and, in my case, easily smashed my lap record in one go.
Sphinx
You have now hinted that the BMW may even be the better car on HSR, I admit the CLK understeers on these high speed corners but it does rather make up for it in straight line speed, which is most of the track is it not?
Again, interesting.
So you see, this isn't a flame war, it's a discussion that IMO is a worthy one, because I at least think it's interesting enough to be discussed. 👍
Oh yeah, and it also keeps this thread active
I agree entirely with your sentiments,
Sphinx.
On the technical side, from speed captures that I remember from last night, however, there was no noticeable difference in the speeds reached on the the straights (but bear in mind that 1/ I'd been visiting my bottle of Arran {
} and 2/ I was running the cars at basic, series legislated, power and weight).
I'll have a chance for another look tonight, so I can report back on the 'morrow with less vague data.
Cheers :raises glass:
! The odd thing is that it's actually faster on the straights than any of the others but its cornering performance is dire (oversteer entry and understeer exit that bad should not exist on a race car) 
. The A4 is a touch faster and the TT a good stretch faster but nothing comes near the Bimmer.
. We ran a race on HSR the other week over at GTBN and found that the split time is data with no information content here.
