EA has been holding back Sony Features

[TheDabbinDave]

Twitter.com/EA Let them know how you feel.

"All you sittin in high places, it's all gonna fall on you" The Hooters "All You Zombies"

 

[Tenacious D]

If EA wasn't the Microsoft of developer/publishers, I'd just toss this off. But they are.

 

[NapoleonMikey]

im not surprised that both companies said it was false. clearly sony wasnt going to come out about it before hand because it would be bad buisness so super_secret took it apon himself to do it. but i wouldn't be surprised if we get these features in FW 3.1 now.

 

[Casio]

I think we can't access music in-game VIA XMB has more to do with the system requirements. For me, using the XMB ingame is noticeably more sluggish than non-game, when the PS3 came out in-game XMB was not an issue, so developers could probably use 100% of system resources for gameplay, In-Game XMB has to share resources with the game which is why it is sluggish, but it doesn't ruin gameplay because you can't do both simultaneously.

In-game custom soundtracks, unless it has been specifically included by the developer at a software level (As we've seen with games like Burnout), may take up too much system resources than is acceptable, as it was never designed to do so.

 

[a6m5]

You disappoint me, if you are just starting your hate on E.A.

I don't know how much of that post was true, but I tend to believe the content. If it was a lie, it's a very good one. My "B.S." alarm didn't really go off. I just don't know if the guy really is "in the know", as much as he leads on.

Also, didn't EA hire couple of Xbox bosses as executives? I'm not accusing of anything here, but it did make me think, back when they were news.

You guys should've been boycotting EA all along. What is wrong with you guys? As far as I'm concerned, monopolizing the rights to major sports league in order to prevent competition from other publishers, that is a very dirty play. Regardless of if there are any truths to the accusation, EA can pretty much go to hell, as far as I'm concerned.

Oh, yeah, I have Paradise City, too. I only paid 20 bucks though. Forgive me.

 

[Dragonistic]

Oh, yeah, I have Paradise City, too. I only paid 20 bucks though. Forgive me.

Traitor! I've been boycotting them for years, not primarily because of there PR, I'm just fed up of buying poorly made games churned out of the EA sequel machine. Even the mighty Burnout Paradise failed to impress me as I was fed up of the Burnout driving physics on PS2, and not enough changed when Paradise came along.

EA frustrates me even though I don't own any of their titles, just look at some of the DLC on offer. Skate 2 you can PAY to unlock things in the game that you can already unlock if you just play the game, honestly what on earth? NFS: Undercover was the same, and they were releasing these 'DLC' on the games release so you could buy the game then have everything instantly. Seriously thats just a joke to even think of releasing that as a way to make more money.

 

[Ardius]

I never really boycotted EA, mostly because it doesn't mean anything to them, I don't buy most of their games anyway, and I do want the developers I do like to make money.
However, I was never particularly happy about what they did to Bullfrog and Westwood Studios and their respective game series. I complain about them but there's little else I can really do.

 

[Lion-Face]

Traitor! I've been boycotting them for years, not primarily because of there PR, I'm just fed up of buying poorly made games churned out of the EA sequel machine. Even the mighty Burnout Paradise failed to impress me as I was fed up of the Burnout driving physics on PS2, and not enough changed when Paradise came along.

EA frustrates me even though I don't own any of their titles, just look at some of the DLC on offer. Skate 2 you can PAY to unlock things in the game that you can already unlock if you just play the game, honestly what on earth? NFS: Undercover was the same, and they were releasing these 'DLC' on the games release so you could buy the game then have everything instantly. Seriously thats just a joke to even think of releasing that as a way to make more money.

I used to be like that. I have found in the past few years, EA have become a lot better at making games, even their yearly sequels are becoming more than a roster update. They are trying more things, taking more risks and making some interesting games. I think Activision has taken to the top of the poorly made sequel upon sequel game now, I mean, how many Guitar Hero games are coming out this year? 4 or 5? Its ridiculous! And Ubisoft aren't far behind either with poorly made buggy games. Out of them, EA is the lesser of 3 evils IMO.

As for the 'pay to unlock' items EA offers, I find that a godsend! Not for cheating or lazy purposes. I had my PS3 die on me earlier this year, and lost all my save data. Its taught me to backup things more often now, and I did have backup of a few saves. But what EA has done allows me to get right back into Skate2 and pickup the last few trophies I hadn't gotten just yet. I wish Motorstorm2 would do the same, as I have the platinum but lost the save, and would enjoy getting back into the game now that you can launch it from Home and has a couple of new DLC packs.

 

[NapoleonMikey]

I used to be like that. I have found in the past few years, EA have become a lot better at making games, even their yearly sequels are becoming more than a roster update. They are trying more things, taking more risks and making some interesting games. I think Activision has taken to the top of the poorly made sequel upon sequel game now, I mean, how many Guitar Hero games are coming out this year? 4 or 5? Its ridiculous! And Ubisoft aren't far behind either with poorly made buggy games. Out of them, EA is the lesser of 3 evils IMO.

As for the 'pay to unlock' items EA offers, I find that a godsend! Not for cheating or lazy purposes. I had my PS3 die on me earlier this year, and lost all my save data. Its taught me to backup things more often now, and I did have backup of a few saves. But what EA has done allows me to get right back into Skate2 and pickup the last few trophies I hadn't gotten just yet. I wish Motorstorm2 would do the same, as I have the platinum but lost the save, and would enjoy getting back into the game now that you can launch it from Home and has a couple of new DLC packs.

you do realize instead of spending money on all unlocked things in game you can just go online and download a game save with all things unlocked. will save you $5 or $10 or what ever EA or any other company is charging for it. same thing happened to me earlier this year when my HDD got corrupted. lost all my saved data. only one i really cared about was GT5P so i went online and just downloaded the 100% saves seeing as i already beat everything. sure i didnt have every car when i lost the save but only the ones i knew i would never drive.

 

[Northstar]

you do realize instead of spending money on all unlocked things in game you can just go online and download a game save with all things unlocked. will save you $5 or $10 or what ever EA or any other company is charging for it. same thing happened to me earlier this year when my HDD got corrupted. lost all my saved data. only one i really cared about was GT5P so i went online and just downloaded the 100% saves seeing as i already beat everything. sure i didnt have every car when i lost the save but only the ones i knew i would never drive.

If you DL a gamesave with DLC you still have to buy the DLC, you can't get it for free.

You disappoint me, if you are just starting your hate on E.A.

You guys should've been boycotting EA all along. What is wrong with you guys? As far as I'm concerned, monopolizing the rights to major sports league in order to prevent competition from other publishers, that is a very dirty play. Regardless of if there are any truths to the accusation, EA can pretty much go to hell, as far as I'm concerned.

You can't really get mad at just EA for monopolizing a sports franchise, you also have to get mad at 2K, Sony, Codemasters, Microsoft, Activision as well as every other major video game company that has ever made a sports/racing game since they normally work with exclusive licenses.

So I guess you'll be boycotting every game than?

 

[a6m5]

You can't really get mad at just EA for monopolizing a sports franchise, you also have to get mad at 2K, Sony, Codemasters, Microsoft, Activision as well as every other major video game company that has ever made a sports/racing game since they normally work with exclusive licenses.

So I guess you'll be boycotting every game than?

Are you serious? Which leagues did those guys buy up?

 

[NapoleonMikey]

If you DL a gamesave with DLC you still have to buy the DLC, you can't get it for free.

i didnt say download the game save with the 100% DLC pack i said download a game that was 100% completed. as in completed 100% the normal way of playing it to 100% any extras such as DLC cars that he already bought before the crash or such he would just have to redownload off the PSN store since he already bought them but anything in game he would just need a game save.

 

[Northstar]

2K-MLB
Sony-F1(formerly), WRC, you could also add any exclusive game from a 3rd party developer.
CM-F1
Microsoft- V8 series (if the rumor about Forza 3 is true), you could also add any exclusive game from a 3rd party developer.
Activision- Multiple deals with bands for Guitar Hero.
You could also add THQ who hold the WWE license.

 

[Dragonistic]

As for the 'pay to unlock' items EA offers, I find that a godsend! Not for cheating or lazy purposes. I had my PS3 die on me earlier this year, and lost all my save data. Its taught me to backup things more often now, and I did have backup of a few saves. But what EA has done allows me to get right back into Skate2 and pickup the last few trophies I hadn't gotten just yet. I wish Motorstorm2 would do the same, as I have the platinum but lost the save, and would enjoy getting back into the game now that you can launch it from Home and has a couple of new DLC packs.

Except they copy protect some of their games (NFS: Pro Street for one) so you can't back it up and if your ps3 breaks you HAVE to repeat the game again or pay to unlock stuff...

 

[maulreize]

2K-MLB
Sony-F1(formerly), WRC, you could also add any exclusive game from a 3rd party developer.
CM-F1
Microsoft- V8 series (if the rumor about Forza 3 is true), you could also add any exclusive game from a 3rd party developer.
Activision- Multiple deals with bands for Guitar Hero.
You could also add THQ who hold the WWE license.

I dont think 2k has had exclusive rights over MLB....ever. Right now you can get MLB: The Show (PS3 exclusive) or The Biggs 2. In the past there was the RBI series, Triple Play series, and MVP series as well.
I think that most of the licenses you have mentioned we paid for, but not exclusive. WWE should be treated differently because they bought up all their competition (which had their own games). GH also probably doesn't apply because buying the rights to bands is equivalent to giving athletes their own shoes. The deal applies more to the player than the league. In GH the deal applies to the band, rather than their record company. EA basically shut down the 2k football franchise. Personally, I remember Madden during years when they did not have the NFL lic, but they had the NFLPA lic (Madden64 most recently). 2K couldnt do that because EA bought the exclusive rights for both.

 

[Northstar]

Bigs 2 is made by 2K, they have cross platform exclusivity it started after the 2005 round of games. Currently the only people other than 2k that can make games are 1st party developers.

 

[maulreize]

Bigs 2 is made by 2K, they have cross platform exclusivity it started after the 2005 round of games. Currently the only people other than 2k that can make games are 1st party developers.

That makes a lot of sense. I was wondering what'd happened to the MVP series.

 

[Lion-Face]

you do realize instead of spending money on all unlocked things in game you can just go online and download a game save with all things unlocked. will save you $5 or $10 or what ever EA or any other company is charging .......

Yes I do realize that, the problem is that some games lock out other peoples save files, you have to have their username, or your PS3 'Activated' under their PSN ID etc etc. Motorstorm2 has done this, they initially had their Save games locked, with a patch made them free to backup, but you can't transfer them to another players profile.

Except they copy protect some of their games (NFS: Pro Street for one) so you can't back it up and if your ps3 breaks you HAVE to repeat the game again or pay to unlock stuff...

Yeah I know its a pain, Skate 2 is locked, Motorstorm 2 initially save files were locked and so is Killzone 2. Theres a few others too that I haven't been able to backup in the past also. Would love to know why they do this in the first place.

Anyway, my point is, out of all the companies that lock save files, EA offer a quick way of getting back to the point you were at. Sure it may not be 'right', but for someone who doesn't backup their files or the saves are locked, I really appreciate the option to do so. Just because its there, doesn't mean you have to use it.

 

[a6m5]

2K-MLB
Sony-F1(formerly), WRC, you could also add any exclusive game from a 3rd party developer.
CM-F1
Microsoft- V8 series (if the rumor about Forza 3 is true), you could also add any exclusive game from a 3rd party developer.
Activision- Multiple deals with bands for Guitar Hero.
You could also add THQ who hold the WWE license.

Thanks for listing them up for me(👍), and I do apologize for my ignorance on the subject, but here's what I think about what you presented to me:

MLB - Exclusive amongst the 3rd party developers. And my impression is that this was done in defense, or retaliation to the EA/NFL deal. I realize that I'm not being exactly fair, but I'd say good for 2K. EA wanna play it that way, 2K can too. Really, I don't think 2K had a choice.

F1 - Yes, I'd say that is wrong. F1 is a mega franchise, and this company I've never heard of before, Codemasters, they are now on my "S" list, and I don't mean the "Super" list.

The rest - They do not really get a rise out of me, then again, wrestling has not interested me since elementary school days. Guitar Hero, smaller race series, in comparison to exclusive NFL, NASCAR, etc., I don't even consider them noteworthy.

That's my opinion. I most definitely see where you are coming from, but some of the examples provided, they seem like little league baseball to me, compared to the NFL rights. With the exception of F1 & MLB, like I said. And EA did it to take out an upcoming rival. Not the greatest example, but pretend for a second that GT and Forza was on a same console(or multi-platform, whatever). It's like GT buying the rights to all the cars, so Forza can only have cars from Chery, Tata, Daewoo, etc.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

He called Square Enix, Squaresoft.

Credibility -1

 

[Shokz]

F1 - Yes, I'd say that is wrong. F1 is a mega franchise, and this company I've never heard of before, Codemasters, they are now on my "S" list, and I don't mean the "Super" list.

You've never heard of Codemasters?! Wow...

They did TOCA Race Driver, GRiD, Colin McRae Rally, DiRT, Operation Flashpoint, Overlord, Micro Machines, Brian Lara Cricket, The Lord of the Rings Online and Rise of the Argonauts, to name some of their more heard of franchises.

 

[a6m5]

You've never heard of Codemasters?! Wow...

They did TOCA Race Driver, GRiD, Colin McRae Rally, DiRT, Operation Flashpoint, Overlord, Micro Machines, Brian Lara Cricket, The Lord of the Rings Online and Rise of the Argonauts, to name some of their more heard of franchises.

I'm not a big gamer, and only racing game I really bother with is GT. Paradise City, I consider more of a GTA on wheels, and I don't even play it often.

 

[Racer XO]

I'm not a big gamer, and only racing game I really bother with is GT. Paradise City, I consider more of a GTA on wheels, and I don't even play it often.

Wow...Come out of the closet much?

 

[LaBounti]

You can't really get mad at just EA for monopolizing a sports franchise, you also have to get mad at 2K, Sony, Codemasters, Microsoft, Activision as well as every other major video game company that has ever made a sports/racing game since they normally work with exclusive licenses.

So I guess you'll be boycotting every game than?

You certainly can get mad because EA was the company that did it in the worse way and thats what started the whole exclusive trend. Every other time its happened since wasn't any where near as corrupt as what EA did. Their flagship franchise was getting beatin by a game better and 1/2 the price. And many many Maddens failed to evolve with the lack of any competition. So yeah, MS is just as bad but not as bad.

EA started the trend so we can hate all we want . Lets not forget the washed out poor 360> PS3 ports they did for few years either. There are multiple reasons to hate on EA.

 

[Kryz11]

Could someone sumarize for me why EA did not allow PS3 to be cross gaming chat? and how? I don't get the new NEWS..

 

[NapoleonMikey]

He called Square Enix, Squaresoft.

Credibility -1

old skool cred +1

i still refer to them as squaresoft and anytime i go to the main site i still type squaresoft.com thankfully it auto directs. but the 2 company's where alot better separate when they merged the games werent as good.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

but the 2 company's where alot better separate

That they did

I can't believe how many misses they released recently for the 360 and whatever else.

 

[a6m5]

Could someone sumarize for me why EA did not allow PS3 to be cross gaming chat? and how? I don't get the new NEWS..

I don't think the article/post said that EA blocked, or protested the chat. EA allegedly pressured Sony to pull the plug on the custom soundtrack, because it was making the EA's poorly programmed games look bad(I think it said because the custom soundtrack didn't work, or work well with EA games.). And this set the precedent for everything else including chat.

 

[Leonidae]

Actually, I think that EA has snatched up some artists to make music for their games, and if this custom soundtrack stuff would go through, people wouldn't listen those artists if they could choose from their own selection of music.. and then, those artists would start looking for new contracts to get bigger slices of the profit.

 

[Dragonistic]

Actually, I think that EA has snatched up some artists to make music for their games, and if this custom soundtrack stuff would go through, people wouldn't listen those artists if they could choose from their own selection of music.. and then, those artists would start looking for new contracts to get bigger slices of the profit.

I think it's fair to say if it is true EA wanted rid of custom soundtracks, 1) they'd be on MS back to, 2) people still listen to music through other mediums, radio, hifi, laptops, PCs, iPods. 3) I think alot of people dont have there own songs on ALL the time, so they're bound to hear the soundtrack sooner or later, or they'll just use other things to get their personal music fix.