Elon's Antics

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ScottPuss20
Failing to choose a side doesn't automatically mean that you're siding with the enemy and approving their behaviour, or Elon Musk in this case.
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The thing is, apathy can be just as dangerous and is somthing people like Putin, Trump, Xi & Musk rely on.

They have their devout followers who will happily drink the coolaid and die for their beliefs.

You then have those who can be bullied in to toeing the line, either with bribes or blackmail etc.

Then you get those who will follow out of fear but know they shouldn’t.

Then you get your people who are apathetic and just want the world to be all good so they don’t have to worry about things. Yet thier refusal to speak out or pick a side allows them to be walked all over despite what hardships they may face.

You then swing the other way towards people who will push back at various levels.

Now if more of those fence sitters would have stood up to be counted and voted against Trump knowing full well he’s a horrific human being and possibly dangerous for the USA as a whole, then we wouldn’t be here now.

While I hate my parents politics and votes they have made in the past (Brexit Voters) I know they will still vote for what they believe in and not fence sit.
 
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I think it's one thing to be a fence-sitter knowing full well that you're handing a decision over to everyone else. Maybe you legitimately don't care, maybe you don't feel you're sufficiently informed, maybe you wish to make a statement by not engaging in the process at all, whatever. I don't find that to be a good thing, but it's a choice someone could reasonably make.

It's another thing to be out there advocating for others to take part in fence-sitting when not taking action is functionally identical to support for a particular side or cause. In that case it's not really fence-sitting, it's just disguised support. And that's true regardless of whether the fence-sitter intends it as such or not.
 
Someone who is ignorant of world affairs, and whose ignorance of world affairs has not hurt them in a way that they are aware of, might tend to promote that lifestyle (which they believe has worked out for them) to others. This happens a lot in the US. I don't necessarily condemn this approach, since not everyone can be informed about everything, and it's natural and even kind hearted to suggest others enjoy the same benefits of lifestyle that you yourself think you have enjoyed.

I do take issue with someone who has been told about world affairs, who people have taken the time to educate, or who actively avoids learning even when it is presented to them on a platter, taking the same position. If you intentionally chose to avoid information, you own your ignorance, which means you own the consequences of that ignorance. If you aren't ignorant and remain apathetic, it says something about the kinds of things you're apathetic toward.
 
news.sky.com

Elon Musk says his time working for Donald Trump is about to 'drop significantly'

As a special government employee, Mr Musk was limited to 130 days in his role. In April, he dismissed reports suggesting he would leave his position in the coming months, calling the rumours "fake news".
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Tesla said on Tuesday that quarterly profits fell by 71% to $409m (£306.77m) from $1.39bn (£1.04bn) in the first quarter of 2024. Revenues were also well below forecasts, dropping 9% to $19.3bn (£14.5bn) between January and March.

The company's share price has plummeted by more than 50% since reaching a record high in mid-December.
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Sad. Maybe the board should renegotiate his pay package.
 
If only there had been a person talking about being the front runner to Mars for the last 20 years including plans to have people on the way last year.
CEO Elon Musk will send a mission to Mars without people on it — on the Flying Dragon version 2 rocket — starting in 2018 and launch a rocket headed there every 26 months.

“It is intended to carry astronauts to the International Space Station,” said Musk at the Code Conference in Rancho Palos Verdes, Calif. on Wednesday night. “But we are going to send one to Mars in 2018.”

But that’s not the biggest ambition. If everything goes according to plan, the first rocket carrying human cargo will launch in 2024, he said.
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If only Elmo had access to unlimited funding and rockets, then maybe he could get to Mars.
 
For the record we did go to Mars within a decade of going to the Moon. We just sent a probe instead of a person, since those are better at science and complain less about the lack of large masses of water and return fuel.
 
"Hey every whatabout Mars, Mars huh... Mars YEAH..." says the guy absorbing all the government space money, whose been saying how easy it would be, who was in government, who has yet failed to achieve what we did 60 odd years ago, and also most of the other space things he said he'd do, along side all the car things he failed to do that he said he'd do, and Solar things he said he'd do, but failed to do.. and Trillion dollar savings he'd said he'd do, which he didn't.
 
Blitz24
Maybe he sent the wrong drafted tweet out and he meant the self-driving Tesla is due out in 2045.
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Given his levels of insane optimism dumb-crap marketing gibberish, quarter to nine sounds about right for one of his deadlines.
 
MatskiMonk
"Hey every whatabout Mars, Mars huh... Mars YEAH..." says the guy absorbing all the government space money, whose been saying how easy it would be, who was in government, who has yet failed to achieve what we did 60 odd years ago, and also most of the other space things he said he'd do, along side all the car things he failed to do that he said he'd do, and Solar things he said he'd do, but failed to do.. and Trillion dollar savings he'd said he'd do, which he didn't.
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The point is, Elon isn't thinking; he's selfish and wants to feel powerful and think he knows what he's doing. By building rockets and space objects to transport to Mars and other parts of the world. Some may not agree with me on this but that's fine and that's their opinion.
 
Oh my. Tsk tsk.
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It's obviously not that we "can't" return to the moon, or that we "can't" put people on mars. What else could be the reason Elon? You're smart right? Figure it out.
 
lol. lmao, even.

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On the one hand, it's probably for the best that vermin like that are shunned and suppressed. On the other hand, it's a funny kind of free speech absolutism. What a petty bitch.
 
I’m glad Elon got greedy and put his face and mouth in the White House. Everyone that didn’t know finally got to see who he is. Besos and Zuckerberg probably didn’t warn him. They said, “You gon’ learn today.”. :lol:
 
05XR8
I’m glad Elon got greedy and put his face and mouth in the White House. Everyone that didn’t know finally got to see who he is. Besos and Zuckerberg probably didn’t warn him. They said, “You gon’ learn today.”. :lol:
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Zuckerberg deserves every bad thing to happen to him as well for giving in to conservatives demands to fire fact checkers. Now they're free to spew all the misinformation they want and nobody calls them out on it.
 
MatskiMonk
Have you seen any people who were previously Musk Stans openly say they were wrong? I haven't.
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Oh, I haven’t seen that on this website. However, seeing reports of owners seeing what’s happened and not wanting to buy another Tesla and/or changing badges, etc. That’s real.
I don’t care for saying I told you so. I’d be more about welcome to having sensible conversations.

@Jezza819 Yeah, which prompted me to do what little I can to stay off FB, IG and cancelling Amazon stuff and twitch. Such a shame because I really like the Slate pickup. :(
 
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05XR8
Oh, I haven’t seen that on this website. However, seeing reports of owners seeing what’s happened and not wanting to buy another Tesla and/or changing badges, etc. That’s real.
I don’t care for saying I told you so. I’d be more about welcome to having sensible conversations.

@Jezza819 Yeah, which prompted me to do what little I can to stay off FB, IG and cancelling Amazon stuff and twitch. Such a shame because I really like the Slate pickup. :(
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Twitch might actually be worth sticking with. TMU, it costs Amazon money to keep running, so the longer it runs, the longer Amazon has to keep throwing money into it. And they know that as long as other competitors continuously fail to match it (YouTube's getting closer & closer), they're not pulling the plug.
 

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