Embarrasingly low res cars!

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Take a look at the front of a Buick Special. Everyone should have one, it's an early prize car.
 
Jo3f1sh
I'd take less poly counts on premiums for better looking standards any day.

In fact. I'd get rid of premiums and standards all together and just find a medium between the two. Take out the uber hi-res cockpits and make a lower poly version for all cars.

Just my opinion.
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You know what. I said the same thing. They put too much into premiums if you ask me. I think if they had gone right in the middle with all cars, they could have remodeled everything to a medium detail instead of this all out model. It would have freed up time to focus on other aspects of the game. If your racing, like actually racing, your going forward, period. Why you need highly detailed rear seats and so forth, i don't know. A decent dash to match the real car would have been enough to satisfy most.

Now they screwed themselves. With the level of detail in premium, everyone will expect that for any car called a premium. These cars are high in file size, medium detail would have saved space and time giving us more content and with better quality.
 
In my opinion it's embarrasing that we even have standards. When ever my friends come round, I try to hide the standards for as long as possible, because as soon as they see the low res cars the game is s**t in their eyes.
 
AussieStig117
In my opinion it's embarrasing that we even have standards. When ever my friends come round, I try to hide the standards for as long as possible, because as soon as they see the low res cars the game is s**t in their eyes.
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Hide your kids, hide your wife, hide your standards
 
DanDiplo
Of course, a straight line only needs two points. A computer can churn out enough straight lines to make your eye see a curve much faster than it can actually churn out the curve." - How Graphic Cards Work
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Indeed, your reply says exactly what is the problem: to make them look better, all visual modelization must be done again, with more points and lines. And for that, they probably didn't have the time.
 
Eh, I couldn't care less. There are over 1000 cars and 200 of them are perfect.

See how I'm positive? You should try this type of mentality.
 
JonnyBigBoss
Eh, I couldn't care less. There are over 1000 cars and 200 of them are perfect.

See how I'm positive? You should try this type of mentality.
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I half agree, the 200 Premium are magnificent, some of the standards do need a bit of touching up. Have a look at the wheel arches of the 905 Peugeot, I feel embarrassed for PD, I can't imagine how Kaz must feel about it, being a perfectionist. Obviously it's not his decision.
 
Yeah some of these cars are horrific. Downright horrific. I forget which car it was that had such jagged edges and bad pixels
 
In my opinion, they should hire a couple of graphical design students for cheap money, have them retouch the worst standard cars a little and then incrementally upgrade our games with the new data through the updates. What would that be, a matter of weeks? Or even just a few days?
 
For every one standard car that looks like the Alto Works, there are three that look like this:

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..But people don't like pointing out that a lot of the standards look amazing for cars that didn't have much work done to them. They just like trolling with the same images being reposted over and over.

Oh, and as a side note, the E55 AMG sounds amazing.
 
gambleboyen
My solution: Use bumper cam when driving, never look at replays, problem solved.
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Hmm NO.
Is time to work on new premium models, seriously who care about lupo and mazda demio? They are ugly even if they become premium (with all the due respect). It would be great if they start converting all the fastest Race Cars first of all imho.
 
Predwolf
For every one standard car that looks like the Alto Works, there are three that look like this:

[pic of E55AMG]

..But people don't like pointing out that a lot of the standards look amazing for cars that didn't have much work done to them. They just like trolling with the same images being reposted over and over.
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Nobody denies that there are a lot of good looking standard cars. In fact, if you read this thread from the very beginning, you will notice that most people clearly say that most of the cars are good, and that they only came across few bad-looking examples.

But that isn't the point of this thread anyway. The point of this thread is to discuss those which are bad looking and also to discuss why they are bad looking. Is that not acceptable to you?

Why do I have to have this overly positive attitude towards GT5? Why can't I enjoy it, but also point out and discuss its shortcomings? Every time I do that, people come along and call me either a whiner, a hater, a liar or a killjoy. Does having a positive attitude mean that I must never ever see the faults of something?
 
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AussieStig117
In my opinion it's embarrasing that we even have standards. When ever my friends come round, I try to hide the standards for as long as possible, because as soon as they see the low res cars the game is s**t in their eyes.
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You must have some very shallow friends, then.
 
Say guys, I know what you mean, low res 2D on low poly 3D, not a good combination. But really you should look at it this way: Would you rather those cars not be in the game at all and not be able to drive them, or are you happy that they're here to drive even if they are balls of smudgy pixels?
I'm a detail freak myself, being an artist for a living and having done a number of years as a 2D artist for an online game development team. But that said, I'd rather have those low res cars instead of not having them at all.

And keep in mind, this is coming from a cynic who usually sees the bad and overlooks the good ;) :lol:
 
BLOWHARD
Would you rather those cars not be in the game at all and not be able to drive them, or are you happy that they're here to drive even if they are balls of smudgy pixels?
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I'd rather they had fixed those textures as they said and not just shoved the cars out unchanged.

Of course I prefer having the standards as they are if the alternative is not having them at all. I just don't understand why they put the cars in the game like this. Given the amount of work and attention to detail they put into the premiums, Kaz must have been very unhappy to be forced to use cars ported from GT4, a few even from earlier games ... but hey, **** happens!

But how in the name of all that's holy can he just rubberstamp them in their current state? This is a complete mystery to me. If I were him, I would have made damn sure that all of them at least fulfil a minimal graphical standard, which would be the standard of the better-looking ones. They knew for a long time that they would port these cars, and they didn't have the time to fix the textures on them? Sorry, I don't buy that. Or they didn't bother, which might be even worse.
 
FERRAR1458
But doesn't that show how bad the standard cars are??
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Some (and I'd say it's a minority) of the standard model cars look very bad. Some look surprisingly good. However, when racing then I'd say the vast majority look fine. Often when driving I can't tell the difference between standard and premium cars - it only becomes apparent when viewing replays or in photo mode.

If someone will dismiss the entire game because a few models aren't very good then, yes, this strikes me as shallow.
 
Well, even with the low res textures, low poly models, crummy pixel shadows, and on and on, I still get a BIG smile on my face every time I play GT5 :D I think I'll play right now!
 
the Interceptor
I'd rather they had fixed those textures as they said and not just shoved the cars out unchanged.

Of course I prefer having the standards as they are if the alternative is not having them at all. I just don't understand why they put the cars in the game like this. Given the amount of work and attention to detail they put into the premiums, Kaz must have been very unhappy to be forced to use cars ported from GT4, a few even from earlier games ... but hey, **** happens!

But how in the name of all that's holy can he just rubberstamp them in their current state? This is a complete mystery to me. If I were him, I would have made damn sure that all of them at least fulfil a minimal graphical standard, which would be the standard of the better-looking ones. They knew for a long time that they would port these cars, and they didn't have the time to fix the textures on them? Sorry, I don't buy that. Or they didn't bother, which might be even worse.
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I must agree. They had loads of time to fix the obvious. Whether it boiled down to time or lack of attention, the fact of the matter is that some should not have made the cut or be touched up. There are some pretty decent standards. Standards that appear to be equal to Forza premiums.

Considering I can care less about quantity vs quality, I would probably prefer not to drive them, but that's me. There are tons of other cars to drive, missing a few won't bother me. More than likely, if a race didn't dial up to use a certain car, I wouldn't drive it anyways. Therefore if I don't need it, I won't miss it.
 
Stephen220378
If you look at the OP it says "new member" I'm sure it wasn't deliberate that he posted a topic that has been discussed before and considering that the majority of new threads posted are about things, that if you look hard enough you'll find hidden somewhere on the forums, I don't see why this thread is a problem.
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Thanks, yes I'm new here and did not realise this had been covered before. Anyway, 5 pages of discussion just show that people still want to talk about it. Don't get me wrong most of the cars are amazing I just can't begin to understand how they allowed this to get in the game seeing how extreme they were in perfection and attention to detail. No way to increase the res of the gt4 cars easily?
 
I have to agree with the subject of this thread, some of the standard cars do not look very great.

However what baffles me more is the fact that some of the cars do not have the correct wheels, the BMW M3 CSL, the '99, '00 and '01 JGTC GT-Rs and the C-West Razo Silvia are prime examples. I find it amazing that someone wasn't checking every single Standard car to make sure they looked the same as in GT4 or at least GTPSP.

I would be happier with having the not so great standard cars fixed up than having some of them upgraded to Premium. But otherwise I'm quite happy with them.
 
Standard Cars are "extras" PD only worked on Premiums and Some Standards others are in the game because people have memmories of them in Past GT games and to people who would like to drive them in the game ,How can you blame PD for that they could have not added them in the first place and if that is what you want them pay no attention to them .
 
Greycap
...And the HPA Golf which is often said to look horrible but it looks just like the others while you're trying to drive your own race instead of searching for squished pixels in the rear door handles. And I'm playing through a Full HD Sony to begin with...
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It's funny you mention this car. Because I had one. And if you hadn't noticed, at the beginning of the race there's 3 cool, timely camera shots that get right close to your car. And I was like ''are you joking me?" paused the game, turned to my dad and said they ported this damn car right out of GT4. It looks like a horses ass and that's being polite about it.

E: No, I'm not going to rage and quit the game, or bash it to no end. I'll simply sell that car and never look at it again. I agree with you to a point, if I'm passing a standard car during a race, what's the big deal.
 

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