even skylines need a real engine

[toyomatt84]

That is true. But the RB26 is not an "End All" mill, either. There really isn't an end-all mill. why? because humans make them, and there will always be flaws.

perhaps some people should learn to appreciate stuff INSIDE America, too. There's more to this world than Asia and Europe: Christopher Columbus found that out.

(There's nothing wrong with European and Japanese cars, though. I love them all.)



I liked the idea...until I found out it didn't run, at which point it became kinda stupid. Evidently, the steering comumn got in the way of the engine.

I didn't say that domestic V-8's didn't have a purpose. They do just fine in big situations. I would actually prefer a Chevy small block, when talking about a Monster truck, or something that does mud bogging. They just excel in that situation.

 

[land sea air]

technology of a single overhead cam engine lacking any type of variable valve timing.

I don't mean to nitpick but isn't it a cam in block overhead valve motor?

On an interesting side note the Aston Martin Vanquish used for driving stunts in 007 Die Another Day used a lightly breathed on 5.4 liter ford v8.

 

[Troux]

First incarnations of the Koenigsegg CC also used a S/C Ford V8.

 

[stumpydino]

the rather nippy Ultima uses a chevy V8

 

[toyomatt84]

I don't mean to nitpick but isn't it a cam in block overhead valve motor?

On an interesting side note the Aston Martin Vanquish used for driving stunts in 007 Die Another Day used a lightly breathed on 5.4 liter ford v8.

Did you notice the term "lacking" before that whole bit on variable valve timing?

 

[slimer90210]

Anyone think they /might/ have used an american v-8 becasue it was simply cheaper and easier to get a hold of and build?

I don't know about the area where that car was built but in my area import engines that have good power potential are kinda hard to come by...

 

[Troux]

Did you notice the term "lacking" before that whole bit on variable valve timing?

You said it was a SOHC motor, you were wrong.

 

[Sakiale]

They used the Ford V8 in Die Another Day because there wasnt enough space to fit all of the gadgets and stuff in with the V12.

 

[Wolfe]

On an interesting side note the Aston Martin Vanquish used for driving stunts in 007 Die Another Day used a lightly breathed on 5.4 liter ford v8.

You say that almost as if you don't know that Aston Martin is owned by Ford and often uses Ford hardware, not just in movies...if I'm not mistaken, that 5.4L Ford V8 would be the same engine found in the V8 Vantage.

To be brutally honest, I found it funny how so many people think that the Chevy small block V8's are the "end-all" engine...

To be honest, I agree on at least one of them -- I think the LS1 is completely underwhelming and horribly overrated. A 5.7L pushrod V8 that coughs up 350hp and 365lb.ft of torque? That's crazy talk!

 

[slimer90210]

I liked the idea...until I found out it didn't run, at which point it became kinda stupid. Evidently, the steering comumn got in the way of the engine.

Maybe they should talk to the Mopar boys... they know a thing or two about getting big engines to work in small cars... (points too the big block and hemi darts)

 

[toyomatt84]

You said it was a SOHC motor, you were wrong.

True, but that doesn't change the fact that it lacks any sort of valve timing. Chevrolet could easily broaden their powerband with a simple use of VVT. Heck, they'd easily see much better hp figures. But, that's getting beyond my interest to even describe logic to some people.

 

[land sea air]

They used the Ford V8 in Die Another Day because there wasnt enough space to fit all of the gadgets and stuff in with the V12.

Yeah I found that out tonight when I was doing some research about that car, from what I can find (mostly speculation) the motor was mostly standard from a truck.

@ Wolfe: to my knowledge the new v8 Vantage shares very very little if anything with any Ford engine. I know that Aston as well as other high end makes like Jaguar and Land Rover but to me that doesn't make it any less interesting. Its pretty easy to see that Ford probably "helped" a lot with the movie considering the 3 lead cars, Jaguar XK, Aston Martin, Ford Thunderbird.
Another interesting side note: 007's speedboat in Die Another Day is powered by a 350 from the general.

 

[Jim Prower]

True, but that doesn't change the fact that it lacks any sort of valve timing. Chevrolet could easily broaden their powerband with a simple use of VVT. Heck, they'd easily see much better hp figures. But, that's getting beyond my interest to even describe logic to some people.

LS2/7.

the most difficult part of using technology like that is cost per unit: us Americans tend to be enticed by a low price tag.

 

[TheCracker]

You say that almost as if you don't know that Aston Martin is owned by Ford and often uses Ford hardware, not just in movies...if I'm not mistaken, that 5.4L Ford V8 would be the same engine found in the V8 Vantage.

I think you'll find that the Aston V8 is based on the AJ-V8 Jag unit. Pretty much like the previous Aston inline 6 was based on the inline 6 used by Jaguar for decades.

 

[GT40 MKII]

if you ask me, it's definitely original but i bet the gas mileage sucks on that thing

 

[land sea air]

I think you'll find that the Aston V8 is based on the AJ-V8 Jag unit. Pretty much like the previous Aston inline 6 was based on the inline 6 used by Jaguar for decades.

I was gonna say that considering the displacement but I couldn't find any proof

GM did combine twin cam tech with the small block for the ZR-1 and although it was an amazing car it came out very expensive. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it was called the LT-6

 

[slimer90210]

I was gonna say that considering the displacement but I couldn't find any proof

GM did combine twin cam tech with the small block for the ZR-1 and although it was an amazing car it came out very expensive. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it was called the LT-6

I think(and I stress think) GM did the same for the Olds Aurora race car... a 5.7L DOHC V8 if my memory is correct...

 

[Jay]

LS2/7.

the most difficult part of using technology like that is cost per unit: us Americans tend to be enticed by a low price tag.

Cost per unit? The LS VVT is only a simple single cam phasing actuator which is a easy way to add a form of VVT which is cheap.

 

[land sea air]

I think the mil in the Aurora race car was based on the Northstar unit in the standard car rather than the OHV small blocks used in Corvettes. Since small blocks end up pretty much everywhere else it shouldn't be a surprise to see one in an R-34 or any other cult car

 

[Jim Prower]

Cost per unit? The LS VVT is only a simple single cam phasing actuator which is a easy way to add a form of VVT which is cheap.

well, yes, and no, since an engine must essentially switch generations to accept it. for some reason, modern, high-performance V-8 engines are inherently expensive to design and build anyway, unlike modern, high-performance I-4s. why is beyond me.

 

[BMWteamPTG]

IMO, An R34 with nothing in it is more rare and beautiful (sometimes) than a 'vette...especially in the US...

just my opinion.