F094/S vs. F094/H DUN DUN DUNNNNNN!

[spike10h]

Is the F094/S really THAT much better than the F094/H. At racing-line, all the top F1 times are with the /S and not the /H. Sure there are a few /Hs but not as many up top.

 

[MeM]

Im not too sure on this one but i think /S means speed? and /H means Handeling, can anyone verify that?

 

[Der Alta]

S = Senna
H = Hill

The minor difference has never really been deduced. The S is simply faster around a track than the H is.

AO

 

[LoudMusic]

Eh, no.

F094/S

F = Formula
0 = Cylinders, 10
94 = Year it ran
S = driver, Senna

That's the code. It's all over every GT3 site. The F6xx/x are six cylinder turbo F1 cars.

As far as the comparison ... I believe they give a little help to Senna's car. Whether or not it was faster is difficult to prove.

 

[MeM]

damnit I was close.....not, Test them on the 400m, 1000m, etc and see the comparisons! I dont have an S so i couldnt do them

 

[heero 12]

The biggest difference is the helmet

 

[Apex Kev]

I have both cars and will compare them if you alll would like.It feels like the Senna car is much faster than the other one.

 

[Victor Vance]

S got better top end for some strange reason.. h is quicker in corners...

 

[Quisp]

I guess ya need to ask someone who has disected both within MK's Program?

 

[heero 12]

Might have something to do with body shape

 

[Jetboy.]

That may be the case. If you have the F094/H, notice there is a small side sill behind the front wheels as the F094/S does not.

 

[ND4SPD]

Yes those are the barge boards, the F090S doesn't while the other doesn't but thats the only noticeable difference I can see, besides the slight speed difference.

 

[phattboy]

Sheesh!!! I can't believe you ain't figured this one out yet!!!

Here you all are worried about something like speed and cornering and stuff and really, the BIGGEST difference is that you can sell one for a whole bunch more money

phattboy

 

[ceiling_fan]

Yeah, 875,000 cr. the /S is Much better. Also on racing line they already have 400m and 1000m times.




Famine, sort this out.

 

[Pupik]

Okay, my theory why the /S is better than the /H:

Ayrton Senna was much more revered in Japan for his world titles for Honda in 1988, 1990, and 1991. Damon Hill hadn't yet (as of 1994) achieved the same level of supporet from the fans.

At places like Suzuka, where the Japanese GP was held, it was also a Honda testing ground, and a factory town. Senna was pretty much a local god for affirming Honda's place on the world map. In a way, having Senna win all over the world, justifies the sale of cars all over the world.

So, the /S was crafted better by the PD programmers because of this. Also, they put the /S as a prize for winning the second-longes race series, designed for the "hardcore GT fan", not to mention the completion of the game.

The F094/S is to GT3 what the Suzuki Escudo is to GT2, and what the FTO LM was to the original GT.

 

[bmw5150]

Ayrton Senna was just the best F1 driver of all times!!!!! It's as simple as that!

 

[Victor Vance]

Has Senna won an entire consecutive season of races? Schumi is looking to do that...

 

[heero 12]

Schumi failed two things at Monaco this year, he failed winning Monaco 6 years in a row and he failed a perfect season, and Senna is still the greatest.

 

[Victor Vance]

I'm sorry but I don't follow F1 at all. I think Schuey is simply a great driver with the best F1 car in the world ever. Who won Monaco?

 

[heero 12]

Jarno Trulli, his first pole and his first win in one weekend, kinda makes him feel good. And BTW, the F094/S is better, I just ran a test between the two, both had the same exact settings execpt the F094/H had more HP, the F094/S won with a 400M time of 8.835, the /H got a 8.844, bot had a TCS of three, the settings were almost stock 094/S, taking the toe down to none and increaseing the front downforce to max is all I did, I'll run the 1000M now to see which car has better top speed performance.

And the 1000M results:
F094/H: 15.920
F094/S: 15.961

 

[rico13]

does any one know how to get the Polyphony 001 F1 in the game?

 

[heero 12]

Do you know GTPlanet has a search function? Go use it, then come back here.

 

[Eagle]

Yeah this is the sort of question 10 seconds on Google would answer.

I think I remember reading in the Hybrid forum that the /S had better brakes, I get the feeling it has more torque. It simply feels more driveable, so perhaps the grip levels are the difference.

 

[heero 12]

The /S has better acceleration, as implied in the test I did. If anyone wants the exact settings I can give them.

 

[3rdgenracerX]

Hmm where to start. From my many many many miles in the F1's lets see I have 16'804 miles in my Black beauty F094/s and almost 6,000 in my blue white F094/s, I've put about 3,000 on my F094/h. I've came across the simple fact that the F094/s and F094/h handle differently from one another. Acceleration, torque, horsepower are equal on both cars. Their handeling is the main difference.

The F094/S has some oversteer, this allows you to get in and out of corners faster. I can run more rear downforce than I do in the 94/h and go faster than it.
The F094/H has some understeer, completely the opposite of the 94/s handeling wise. It has the barge boards "remember they were new technology in 94 so they didnt do all that much like the do now" Also look at the rear end of the F094/s and F094/h. The F094/s has alot less of rear diffuser than the F094/h does. So we come back to the understeer of the the F094/h it has more rear downforce, but the draw back in this you will be getting into the corners better but you now become less and less predictable on your exits. Sometimes you will come off a corner great and the next time by you oversteer like crazy.

Onto using rumble strips. The 94/s is extreemly stable over them, no matter how much setup work I do an the F094/h i'm always a little on the iffy side when going over rumble strips. Keep in mind I'm not bottoming out on the rumble strips in neither car.

A few weeks back, there was a F094/s and F094/s fun run at Grand valley 1 and 2 over at GT3times.com. Sough has the #1 time 1'15.6xx in the F094/s and in the F094/h he could only do a 1'18.2 I know he was pushing the car cause I was too, I could barely cleanly lap into the high 1'17's. I seriously can NOT see where I could gain 1.5+ seconds in the F094/h to be on level ground with the F094/s.

So in conclusion the F094/s handles better than the F094/h and thats where the difference is. For the Engine they are on equal ground. Those few people who say the F094/h handles better I'd really like to see thier times.

 

[heero 12]

Yes, but would the acceleration advantage be the main difference? The 094/S is a tad faster than the /H on the 400M, but on the 1000M the /H is better. Also, the /S seems to be a little looser, would that jhave anything to do with the Senna/Hill differences? We all know Senna was the better driver, could PD have implimented that into the game by a better handleing car?

 

[Victor Vance]

Originally posted by heero 12
Jarno Trulli, his first pole and his first win in one weekend

That's the equivalent of, say, Kirk Shelmerdine winning the Daytona 500! If they announced him pre race, I'd say 'who?'!

What team does he drive for?

 

[heero 12]

Renault, and the only reason he won is because Schumacher got taken out, or took himself out, I'm not the FIA so I don't know.

 

[Victor Vance]

So if schuey didn't wreck... he'd walk away with it like Jimmie Johnson did at the Coke 600? (just FYI, he lead 501.5 of 600 miles)

By the way, Way to go Jimmie!

 

[3rdgenracerX]

Originally posted by heero 12
Yes, but would the acceleration advantage be the main difference? The 094/S is a tad faster than the /H on the 400M, but on the 1000M the /H is better. Also, the /S seems to be a little looser, would that jhave anything to do with the Senna/Hill differences? We all know Senna was the better driver, could PD have implimented that into the game by a better handleing car?

The acceleration is about equal on both cars, they have the same engine and weight. The only thing that I can think that could effect the 0-400 and 0-1000 is the downforce of each car. It all comes down to the chassis and aerodynamics. The F094/s has oversteer whereas the F094/h has understeer.

The driver will make the most difference depending on their handeling preferences. I like a car that has some oversteer to it, while other's like a car with understeer. A person that perfers understeer could possibly do better in the F094/h than they do in the F094/s just because of each cars handeling properties.