Well guys, I got the new fanatec 911 turbo s test wheel in the mail a few days ago, so I figured I would make a thread devoted to this one wheel instead of all of the fanatec wheels together. Like all of you I was very excited to get my hands on this wheel, and was thrilled when I saw the UPS man at my door today. PACKAGING: The wheel was very well packaged inside of a box, which was inside box, which was inside another box. I really don't see how anything could possibly happen during the shipping process of the wheel. The first thing I noticed about the wheel while getting it out of the box, was how much thicker and has a slightly larger diameter then it is compared to the g25. I really does feel like an actual cars steering wheel, and the leather is very tight and authentic feeling. All in all it is a great looking wheel. MOUNTING TO A PLAYSEAT EVO: I would be mounting my wheel to a playseat so I had ordered the fanatec wheelstand shifter adapter. It worked like a charm. If you have a playseat and G25 adapter already, I would go ahead and order the Wheelstand shifter adapter. You only have to drill 2 holes in the playseat G25 adapter to get it to work. It's actually pretty solid, and very easy to switch back and forth between the 6 speed and sequential shifters. The wheel required 4 holes to be drilled to the playseats mounting bracket to fit. A drilling template comes with the wheel so it's no big deal to get it attached. PEDALS: I have mine setup currently with my G25 pedals because I haven't really wanted to take the time yet to mount the fanatec pedals. Tomorrow might be the day that I get around to that, but today was spent just trying out the wheel. It worked flawlessly with the 360 and ps3(via the dongle). TURBO S VS G25: The feel of the wheel is much different then the xbox wireless wheel. You really can't even compare the two. It would be like comparing a porsche to a pinto. Once trying the turbo s wheel there is no way you could ever go back to the xbox 360 wireless wheel. A better comparison would be with the G25, but then there are still major differences in the wheels. The turbos s wheel is much, much more quite, and it amazes me how smooth it operates. The belt drive really makes a bid difference. The FF is much much stronger, but yet more subtle at the same time. In GT5p with the FF at 10 I couldn't even control the car because of the wheels strength with the Fanatec wheel. I had to turn the in game FF down to 8, and the wheels FF down to 33 to get the feel that the G25 has at 10 FF. The independent adjustments of the FF and vibration are a very nice feature, which I didn't realize was so important until I got to use it with the fanatec wheel. It makes it so much easier to get the feel of the FF and rumble just how you want it. So far I'm liking it over the G25. The smoothness, and strength of the FF is noticeable immediately, and just the overall feel of having an actual steering wheel in your hand is much better. VIBRATION MOTOR: The vibration motors are also a nice addition when comparing it with the G25. The wheel doesn't have the jerking motion like the logitech wheel when it's trying to simulate vibration. Instead it actually vibrates, which lets the wheel use the FF and vibration functions at the same time. Both the FF, and vibrations are adjustable via the wheel independent of the game. If you don't like how much the wheel is shaking, you can pause the game and turn down that feature while still playing, by using a button beside the lcd screen and your d pad a the bottom of the wheel. It's very easy to make the adjustments and something that would be hard to live without once you have used it. It's might even be my favorite feature of the wheel. BUTTONS: The buttons are also very nicely placed, and are well lit with whichever systems buttons you are using. All of the buttons are very easy to see, and fairly responsive. Navigating the XMB, the 360's dashboard or in game menus are very easy and works well. You can easily reach the buttons when needing to use an e brake, or for making the on the fly adjustments in GT5p. All of the buttons work how they should and has been placed well. The switching of the buttons when you go from 360 to ps3 mode is another small feature that I loved. There's just something about seeing the lights switch from O,Y ,A, and B, to the ps3's square, O, X, and triangle. It's really weird seeing the 360 and PS3 play nicely with each other on one wheel. SHIFTER: The fanatec shifter is something I have really wanted to try. From videos I'd seen it looked very stiff and hard to use. That is not the case. It does have more resistance then the G25 shifter but it's not overly stiff. It holds itself a little bit as you try and push it through the gears, but once you get it out of the gear it slides easily into the next one. It seems like they found a good line between stiffness and ease of use. It's pretty believable as being a real shifter once you start racing. In my opinion it's much better then the G25's, not perfect but a definite improvement. The shifter does get my largest complaint with the unit. I've noticed it on videos and always wondered if the clicking noise was really that loud. Everytime you shift to another gear there is a fairly loud clicking noise when you go in and out of gear. I have almost gotten use to it now, but it was very distracting when I first started using it. If you were trying to play in a room with your wife sleeping it's not going to work. She will put an end to it fast. The fist picture is of everything that comes with the shifter mounting bracket that Fanatec sells, but you wont need the plate at the bottom of the picture for mounting to the playseat with the G25 adapter. PADDLE SHIFTERS: The paddle shifters are one of the weaker points of the wheel. The work very well, but are a bit small. Unless I'm mistaken though I think that there are larger ones coming with the actual production wheel. The ones on my version are just a bit short. I do have small hands, so it might not be a problem for most people, but for me I would like them to be a bit larger. The amount of travel while using them is very short, I would also like to feel them move a little more, sort of like the G25's, but they are very usable and only one of the few things I could see being improved with the wheel. MOUNTING BRACKET ON THE WHEEL: The mounting mechanism that comes attached to the wheel isn't that bad. Ideally you want to hard mount the wheel to your setup, but the brackets that come on the wheel work. It does lean forward when heavy FF is applied, but if you don't want to deal with drilling holes and using bolts, then the wheels mounting brackets could get you by. They are somewhere between the xbox 360 wheel and G25's in terms of quality. Closer to the G25's but not that secure. I imagine though that anyone spending this kind of money on a wheel will have theirs hard mounted anyway, so it really shouldn't matter. I am very happy with the product that Fanatec has put out. It is a high quality wheel that feels very strong and durable. It's not to often that anything exceeds my expectations, but fanatec has with this wheel. So far I couldn't be happier with it. I doubt my G25 will be with me much longer. I already have a friend that's offering to buy my G25, and after getting some time with the turbo s wheel there's really no reason to keep it any longer. I also noticed that they are now making the wheels so you don't need the ps3 dongle. I thought that was a great idea, but after using it I really like it and will probably use it instead of the usb cord connection. It's just one less wire to worry about when trying to clean up your setup. I'm going to go ahead and post this. I'll add more later as I get more time with the wheel, and do a better G25 and Turbo s wheel comparison. I know my pictures are huge but it's the only way I knew how to post them without doing them as attachments, and the attachments just weren't working out. If anyone can tell me how to make them smaller let me know and I will. People with slower internet connections are going to hate me if they stay like this. If anyone has any questions at all feel free to either ask in the thread, or you can PM me. I'll do my best to take any pictures you want, and answer any questions you have. I'll talk about the pedals when I get some time with them. I need to drill a few holes to mount them and just haven't wanted to take the time for that yet. All in all I would say that this wheel is a must buy for multi console sim racers. I really can't see how anyone couldn't be happy with it, The only things I could find at all to complain about were the size of the paddle shifters(but that may be being fixed for the actual wheels that will be shipped) and the clicking sound of the shifter. Other then that I think they did a great job balancing looks with function.