Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

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Doesn't matter either way..

It seems that the listening restricts it in case a racing game decides to use all the buttons.
 
amf7
Dosent it say on the spec sheet that the csr e is limited to x amount of buttons (13) I think and the CSW is limited to 111
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Are you referring to this feature comparison table:

http://www.fanatec.com/html/pw_overview.htm

The info about number of buttons could be for the default rim.
Since Clubsport wheel doesn't have a default rim, max number of buttons
possible is specified instead.


Here is the post that Thomas replied to + his reply from the Iracing forum
for those which are not Iracing members.
Maybe it's easier to understand Thomas comment now.

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CSR-Elite: No, not spending that kind of money for the crappy stock wheel rim (I already have a CSR, don't like the rim). Also don't like how Thomas is saying the Xbox certification on this wheel will limit the options they have for additional wheel rims.
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Thomas
Perhaps you misunderstood something. The xbox certification limits our options on the default rim but we are indeed working on alternative wheel rims for the CSR E as well. But I am not sure if those rims will be shipped earlier than the CSW.
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Those two posts allow for better understanding of the context in the post in this forum. Well before I excite myself in to a frenzy, I'm going to leave it (unless someone else fuels the fire and I can't resist).
 
Cool, i hadnt read that one yet. seems like he is hinting at added functinality of the next wheel for the elite. very exciting indeed! even if it turns out that he adds 4 more buttons and none of them work for xbox it would be nice to have them for the pc side. maybe a proper shift light that would only work in pc mode??? thst would be sweet
 
In light of erakh64's quote from Thomas. I can now say categorically that I would be more than happy to buy a CSR Elite and then buy a more flexible wheel rim at a later date for pc racing. Potentially the only different between it and the CSW will be the quick release mechanism, something that is entirely superfluous to my requirements or even wants. God I want of these now! Happy days :-) Now what can sell?... Kidney...soul lol
 
There will still be differences in the software and probly some minor differences in hardware between the csw and csr-e not just the quick release. If your pc/ps3 only I would defineatly wait for the csw relase and reviews before making a decision. But either way the csr-e is still an amazing wheel so if you can't wait you wont be dissappointed :)
 
Well my lack of cash, means I will have to wait till after the csw reviews and release I fear, but I do need the xbox compatability so the Elite is the only way to go for me but obviously would like the wheel to as near as possible to the CSW level of function etc.
 
Well considering that Thomas stated they are installing enough new electronics in the CSW to require a whole new testing regiment, I would guess they will function significantly different. Now if those differences matter is up to the individual.
 
One big reason for me wanting the csw, and before i say it let me be the first to say its pretty stupid.....but i love those little dark shiny metal thumb/joy sticks that are encoder switches too. If thomas can put them on either side of a new elite wheel and it now seems elite can have more buttons, then its elite all the way.
 
I still don't believe the Elite will have the more buttons than a standard Xbox controller.

Here is my reasoning....(it's very simple)

If they could have has many buttons on the wheel as they want, then why would they have to make different wheels for the Elite and the CSW? If they could both use as many buttons as the Fanatec hardware supports, wouldn't the CSW wheels be able to be used on the Elite?
 
superbike81
I still don't believe the Elite will have the more buttons than a standard Xbox controller.

Here is my reasoning....(it's very simple)

If they could have has many buttons on the wheel as they want, then why would they have to make different wheels for the Elite and the CSW? If they could both use as many buttons as the Fanatec hardware supports, wouldn't the CSW wheels be able to be used on the Elite?
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I believe it's a price issue. The csw quick release is more expensive and is therefore missing on the csre.. But I wonder why there is no xbox compatible csw version announced.
 
Spagetti69
Is every button mapped on the elite at present. L3/R3 (Clickable joysticks) as well as L1/LB R1/RB?

The GT2 isn't.
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Nope. As with firmware 721B, the joystick is still the same as the A button. Same for PS3 (X button).
 
superbike81
I still don't believe the Elite will have the more buttons than a standard Xbox controller.

Here is my reasoning....(it's very simple)

If they could have has many buttons on the wheel as they want, then why would they have to make different wheels for the Elite and the CSW? If they could both use as many buttons as the Fanatec hardware supports, wouldn't the CSW wheels be able to be used on the Elite?
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Maybe to keep the cost down by not using the quick release ?
Otherwise CSR Elite could be as expensive or more expensive
than Clubsport wheel if it had both XBOX compatibility/licensing
(see Thomas comments here: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6440861#post6440861 and https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6441431#post6441431) and quick release.
The lower quality rim (compared to the base) indicates that Fanatec wanted to
keep the price as low as possible.

There could also have been more changes after they started
to design CSR Elite but Fanatec didn't have time to change
to quick release without more delays (I have seen info in forums that Fanatec promised to release CSR Elite this year but I don't know if it's correct).
Initially the CSR Elite was not supposed to have additional rims
but that changed, probably after complaints in forums.
 
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superbike81
But they wouldn't have to re-design the wheel completely, just don't use the quick release mechanism.
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Maybe the CSR Elite and Clubsport rims will be the same except for the quick release.
It seems the CSR Elite rims will be finished about the same time
as Clubsport wheel since Thomas says he is not sure if Clubsport
wheel or CSR Elite rims will be shipped first.

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Tried to delete this post and move this comment to previous post, but couldn't
find a way to delete posts.
 
Elite would be perfect for me with bigger and round rim :) I am not planning on investing on multiple rims for CSW-base.
 
What gives you the idea that the CSR-Elite wheels will be available at the same time as the CSW is released? Everything I have seen hints towards "it's gonna be a while" for the CSR-E wheels.
 
I think this thread would be a forrest fire if the next announced wheel rim for the Elite is a Formula rim. lol

There's just too much desperation for the round/GT rim here and all around. I'm hoping this is the next rim too 👍 but if the demand wins on the Formula rim, then oh well... I can't complain.
 
I wish Elite owners the best for a better wheel alternative soon, but I wouldn't get your hopes up of any of them being available until well after the CSW is on the market.
 
superbike81
What gives you the idea that the CSR-Elite wheels will be available at the same time as the CSW is released? Everything I have seen hints towards "it's gonna be a while" for the CSR-E wheels.
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Did you see my previous posts where I posted a comment Thomas made in a Iracing
forum ?:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6443543#post6443543

It seems to be a hint that CSR elite rims and Clubsport wheel could be released about the same time
when he says he is not sure if CSR Elite rims or Clubsport wheel will be shipped first.

Link to comment if you are a Iracing member:

http://members.iracing.com/jforum/posts/list/1836258.page#4052657
 
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superbike81
Well considering that Thomas stated they are installing enough new electronics in the CSW to require a whole new testing regiment, I would guess they will function significantly different. Now if those differences matter is up to the individual.
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Aye, I noted that comment too
 
erahk64
Did you see my previous posts where I posted a comment Thomas made in a Iracing
forum ?:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6443543#post6443543

It seems to be a hint that CSR elite rims and Clubsport wheel could be released about the same time
when he says he is not sure if CSR Elite rims or Clubsport wheel will be shipped first.

Link to comment if you are a Iracing member:

http://members.iracing.com/jforum/posts/list/1836258.page#4052657
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That doesn't say anything about releasing at the same time, I don't think it's hinting at anything either, it's simply saying "not sure"

I've seen that post on the iRacing forums, I started that thread.
 
Thomas posted this in amars thread last night.
Y
Fanatec...
The wheel rim is an improved version of the CSR wheel rim which is certainly not a sub-standard wheel but considered to be one of the best wheels of all platforms by many reviews.

The problem with the CSR E wheel rim is more a psychological one. The base is clearly on a complete higher level while the price and the wheel rim is on a different level. This is irritating for many people but you get what you pay for and please keep in mind that the majority of CSR E owners is happy with the wheel rim. They will just not always post that in forums.
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Cross quoted as it seems most missed this.
 
superbike81
That doesn't say anything about releasing at the same time, I don't think it's hinting at anything either, it's simply saying "not sure"

I've seen that post on the iRacing forums, I started that thread.
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But why would he say he is not sure if he knows the CSR-E rims will be released months after
Clubsport wheel ?
I think it is a hint the CSR-E rims and Clubsport wheel could possibly be released about the same time.
But we will have to wait and see what happens.
 
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I try to be on the safe side, and when someone actually says "not sure" I take it as just that.

On another note, anyone else excited about the Fanatec Handbrake? Will fit perfectly in my new cockpit, and should look like it truly belongs.
 
BLACK86
One big reason for me wanting the csw, and before i say it let me be the first to say its pretty stupid.....but i love those little dark shiny metal thumb/joy sticks that are encoder switches too. If thomas can put them on either side of a new elite wheel and it now seems elite can have more buttons, then its elite all the way.
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Those little knobs are the bomb.

As for the debate about whether he's not sure CSRE rims or CSW will be released first. The fact that Thomas isn't sure about it, to me, is a clear indicator at the very least they release dates could be around each other in a worst case scenario. He's mentioned the CSW could be ready for testers by end of Jan, if he meets this target then clearly they are not going to be at the same time. What we can infer is that if the rim is on the late side at the very least it is around the time which he thinks the first rim will be available.
 
I know the beta CSW's are already out there, but I wonder with the new electronics if they are going to do "in-house" testing, and then send the review units out to people, or if they are going to do another beta-test session and then do review units?

How long was it between CSR-E beta test units being sent and the release of the actual product?
 
zenkis14
I think this thread would be a forrest fire if the next announced wheel rim for the Elite is a Formula rim. lol

There's just too much desperation for the round/GT rim here and all around. I'm hoping this is the next rim too 👍 but if the demand wins on the Formula rim, then oh well... I can't complain.
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Im the exact opposite. for me the default rim is good enough for gt, but i'm desperately hoping the next csre rim will be formula.
 

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