Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

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I read that, but I don't think that means the CSW will be delayed much beyond December/January (which is actually right on target with what Thomas said in the BMW GT2 video). Just as I said in my previous post, once they catch up with CSR-E preorders, they should be able to start offering the CSW preorders and hopefully have them out by January. I do recall Thomas maybe saying November in one of the first CSW videos, so maybe that's what he meant by not "offering them now."

It's all speculation right now I guess anyways, I just wish they would open a limited pre-order for the CSW so I can at least get my name on a list and it will put my mind at ease. Sign me up for the base, formula wheel, GT wheel, and the phone mounting plate they were talking about. :)
 
superbike81
It's all speculation right now I guess anyways, I just wish they would open a limited pre-order for the CSW so I can at least get my name on a list and it will put my mind at ease.
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That's not gonna happen until the wheels at the very least have started a full on production run and good on Fanatec for learning from their preorder mistakes of the past ( the PWTS fiasco comes to mind) The problem is once a preorder is accepted it immediately creates issues with people who have a lack of patience and start bitching when they're not getting daily updates on how things are progressing production wise, what's the shipping date, who gets theirs first, etc, etc. A quick read of Thomas' blog with the CSR E preorder will show you that within a couple days Thomas was getting hammered for info with all of the above questions and more. Imagine the fever pitch that would take place if Fanatec took CSW preorders now and something else caused a production delay that would set it back even further......bitching would go through the roof.
 
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superbike81
I read that, but I don't think that means the CSW will be delayed much beyond December/January (which is actually right on target with what Thomas said in the BMW GT2 video). Just as I said in my previous post, once they catch up with CSR-E preorders, they should be able to start offering the CSW preorders and hopefully have them out by January. I do recall Thomas maybe saying November in one of the first CSW videos, so maybe that's what he meant by not "offering them now."

It's all speculation right now I guess anyways, I just wish they would open a limited pre-order for the CSW so I can at least get my name on a list and it will put my mind at ease. Sign me up for the base, formula wheel, GT wheel, and the phone mounting plate they were talking about. :)
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It seems apparent that they are shifting their focus to the CRS-E due to production limitations. Since the CRS-E and CSW share components and they are focusing on the CRS-E, I don't expect CSW's to start rolling out until they have increased production capacity to the point where demand for the CRS-E has been met. That being said, there are too many variables (production capacity, demand for CRS-E, etc.) to assume the CSW will be launching in the immediate future (the next one or two months).

Also, Thomas didn't specify a new launch window for the CSW. If the new launch window was obvious he probably would have told us what it would be.

I'm not in too much of a rush, though. I'd rather they take their time and have a smooth launch of both wheels.
 
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Good point about impatient people and preorders. I guess I'm just more patient than average, I've waited over a year on a "preorder" for a car before and never even bothered the salesman more than twice during that time.

I was just thinking since the main difference between the CSR-E and the CSW seems to be the quick release steering wheels and lack of Xbox 360 support for the CSW, that once demand is met for the CSR-E, that they could almost immediately start the CSW production. I hope I'm right and it happens quickly, but if I'm not, I'll patiently wait for it :)
 
Recent CSRE Pedals comment made on the forums...

"Lets get off the wheel for a minute and discuss the hideous ergonomics of physically adjusting the CSR Elite pedals -- an hour long job of monumental frustration (what the heck were they thinking when they designed the bolting system used for left-right pedal adjustment?) followed by another hour of trial and error adjustments because you can't physically tell how it will work until you sit down and test it. Oh, and Fanatec could have mentioned in the manual that the lowest placement possible for throw ("longest" throw, as I understand it) doesn't work for clutch or brake because clutch clips on something at around 90% depression and brake only gives you around 60% range due to the load cell not being able to reach due to the long throw. These are stupid design decisions you shouldn't see in such a pricey product..."
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Just one of several/recent judgemental accounts.

"It really calls into the credibility of everything posted about the products. Now a review from Mr Latte will be completely useless to me as it's quite obvious that his review will leave objectivity at the door."


Doubters and accusers, this post is for you!
Having spent over 8 hours testing, fully dismantling and photographing the CSRE pedals who are you to make allegations and providing no proof against my ability/credibility on a review?

You can believe the previous comments above as an accurate description if you wish.

For the record I had tested every pedal in every hole regards the CSRE Pedals. The above and recent account is not fully accurate and is shall we say misleading regards the strength of the ABS plastic or the design of the pedals having "hideous ergonomics". In truth the design offers very easy and configurable positions, distances and angles for the pedals. However their are reasons to criticise the fact that the pedals do not allow as much customisation as expected regards pedal depression configuration. Additionally the pedal plates having only the centre holes ****ersunk is an oversight on Fanatec's part.

Using FM4 to indicate pedal depression onscreen. I was/am fully aware, no let me rephrase that. I am crystal clear as to the results of each pedal when altering their available depression/distance.

Those results are:
  • Clutch Position 2-5 work
  • Brake Position only 2 & 3 work (4 only allows 60% depression)
  • Accelerate Position 2-5 work













That is all...
 
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Mr Latte
That is all...
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Getting CSPs anyway... :)

Here is a question... how to the CSRE Ps work out of the box (as in how is the default position, easiness to connect, how well do they rest on the ground, etc)? Simple stuff.
 
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I know the question isn't for me but what do you mean?

They are plug and play and they are good to use :)
 
Mr Latte
Doubters and accusers, this post is for you!
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I was actually enjoying reading your post until I got to the quote above. Seems your immature bullish attitude will prevail no matter what. Why don't you give it a rest already. The forum was nice and peaceful until this drivel you just posted.

and BTW I quit reading at that point!
 
I see zero problem with Latte's use of words....especially when one calls out his product review credibility by claiming his not objectionable.

I've read numerous reviews of his......being objectionable on a product is a non issue on his behalf
 
Well he surely is not doing himself or the forum any favors by bring this up in every frickin' post. Why can't this stuff stop!
 
paskowitz
Getting CSPs anyway... :)

Here is a question... how to the CSRE Ps work out of the box (as in how is the default position, easiness to connect, how well do they rest on the ground, etc)? Simple stuff.
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I used them quite a bit before I did the inversion of the clutch and brake pedals. They are very solid on the ground and w/o changing any of the adjustments, they work just fine, but, like you said, you're "Getting CSPs anyway" :sly:
 
Certain people on these forums were asked to avoid my posts and ignore them
I even believe they agreed to do so?

They should do so as of now...

As for me, I am fully entitled to reply and appose the accusations put to me by certain individuals, am I not? Particulary as they provide no evidence to their claims yet this post was a snippet of my own evidence against such claims/doubts made. Besides my post was regarding the CSRE pedals, which I believe are on topic for this thread.

I call it using my "freedom of speech" and in modern society a man is innocent until proven guilty.
My legal team have advised me to say no more.
 
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paskowitz
Getting CSPs anyway... :)

Here is a question... how to the CSRE Ps work out of the box (as in how is the default position, easiness to connect, how well do they rest on the ground, etc)? Simple stuff.
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I built my rig around the CSR-E pedals, so I didn't adjust them at all. Everything felt very natural at the angle I have it at, I doubt I'll even mess with an inversion kit (although I may in the future) because they feel great as is. The only adjustment I ever make is the load cell adjustment on the brake.
 
Nastradamus87
It seems apparent that they are shifting their focus to the CRS-E due to production limitations. Since the CRS-E and CSW share components and they are focusing on the CRS-E, I don't expect CSW's to start rolling out until they have increased production capacity to the point where demand for the CRS-E has been met. That being said, there are too many variables (production capacity, demand for CRS-E, etc.) to assume the CSW will be launching in the immediate future (the next one or two months).

Also, Thomas didn't specify a new launch window for the CSW. If the new launch window was obvious he probably would have told us what it would be.

I'm not in too much of a rush, though. I'd rather they take their time and have a smooth launch of both wheels.
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As are everyone, when you spend that much money you should expect everything to be perfect, Fanatec knows this and thats why they're smart not to get ahead of themselves, but throw us a bone here, all we want are the OTHER details, if you can't give us a date okay, hopefully Thomas will answer the questions emailed to him so we can make a decision for ourselves about whether we should wait until the indefinate future for the CSW, or just buy a CSRE now...
 
I wouldn't buy the CSR-E now anyways. I think I remember it has interchangeable wheel options, but not with the quick release like the CSW. Honestly that quick release function is a big selling point for me. I can put both of my wheel attachments hanging on the side of my rig and having the wheel removed will make getting in and out MUCH easier. I've got the standard CSR wheel to hold me over for now, but the more I read about (and drool over) the CSW and its F1 and GT wheel attachments, the more I hate my CSR.
 
superbike81
I wouldn't buy the CSR-E now anyways. I think I remember it has interchangeable wheel options, but not with the quick release like the CSW. Honestly that quick release function is a big selling point for me. I can put both of my wheel attachments hanging on the side of my rig and having the wheel removed will make getting in and out MUCH easier. I've got the standard CSR wheel to hold me over for now, but the more I read about (and drool over) the CSW and its F1 and GT wheel attachments, the more I hate my CSR.
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I feel the same way for the exact same reasons. Unless you need xbox support, there is much of a reason to get the CSR-E over the CSW, is there?

I haven't had much interest in racing F1 cars on my G27, but with a CSW, F1 rim, and CSP, I can imagine myself getting very much into it.
 
left888
I did NOT bring it up, mr Latte did, Again!
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He brought up how that person was accusing him. You brought up the argument. If your going to troll, don't do it here.
 
Crispy
He brought up how that person was accusing him. You brought up the argument. If your going to troll, don't do it here.
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Why did he bring up how some person was accusing him? and why are you bringing this up? If you are trying to create drama with me I suggest you send me a PM rather then continue in the forum.
 
Nice videos but will this work with 100% compatibility for PS3's GT5

For the CSW , will the steering be as accurate and as precise as a T500 RS when used on GT5? or at least as instantaneous in steering as a Driving Force GT in steering because I hate steering wheels that are expensive but still have a tiny lag which has a huge effect when your driving , even the smallest lag on steering I wouldn't buy any steering wheel.
 
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bugsbunny
Nice videos but will this work with 100% compatibility for PS3's GT5

For the CSW , will the steering be as accurate and as precise as a T500 RS when used on GT5? or at least as instantaneous in steering as a Driving Force GT in steering because I hate steering wheels that are expensive but still have a tiny lag which has a huge effect when your driving , even the smallest lag I wouldn't buy any steering wheel.
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Which higher-end wheels have you experienced this "lag" with? When you say "lag" are you talking about a deadzone? I've used the T500RS, a few different Fanatec wheels, the G25, and the ECCI 6000, DFGT, and never had any problems like you are talking about.

If you are mistaking lag for a deadzone, in most games the deadzone is adjustable.
 
Mr Latte and left888 - I would really hate to have to drag out the Warning hammer. Please either let this scuffle end or if even that's a problem, do me a favor and add each other to your respective ignore lists. Go to View Public Profile, then under the User Lists (found right under their name) you'll find Add to ignore list. Thanks.
 
left888
Why did he bring up how some person was accusing him? and why are you bringing this up? If you are trying to create drama with me I suggest you send me a PM rather then continue in the forum.
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The question is why does left888 continually try to dictate what Mr Latte, Crispy, myself and god knows who else can post in this forum ? I am glad to report that it has not seemed to have put a damper on any of us, lol.

Looking forward to your Fanatec product reviews Mr Latte.

Scotty
 
scoddee
The question is why does left888 continually try to dictate what Mr Latte, Crispy, myself and god knows who else can post in this forum ? I am glad to report that it has not seemed to have put a damper on any of us, lol.

Looking forward to your Fanatec product reviews Mr Latte.

Scotty
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Once again scodee puts in his 2 cents of trollism 101, congrats little man!
 
^Let it be, please. If anything your the one instigating everything with trolling posts, then calling us trolls when we try to defend us and our friends. Please, if you have nothing nice to say, don't say it.

For the record, Mr Latte brought it up because this was the thread to post up the respected content he provided, which was the adjustment of the CSRE Pedals. He defended himself and his credibility from being accused of bias towards a specific company. This is clearly not true as he's praised Thrustmaster and Logitech before.
 
I have tried unsuccessfully for more then a week now to get all this BS stopped. Every time mr Latte post he makes reference to someone attacking him. I tried to apologize to him, three times for the small part I had in all this. He told me to shove it.

In a PM from him he told me he likes toying with people. Many people have PM me in my defense because I tried defending someone mr latte bullied.

I have always said I could care less what brand anyone owns, I have Fanatec and Thrustmaster gear, yet I am accused of attacking mr latte about being biased over something or another. I only defended a member who complained about faulty Fanatec gear. Mr latte jumped all over this member and told him he could not say this in the forum.

I said free speech should be allowed, mr latte said shove it. Now everytime he posts here he make trollish remarks about being attacked. Go and read the threads and see for yourself and also note scodee's trollish remarks as well.

This needs to stop right here right now!!!


***Edit***, but it won't stop right here right now, mr latte or scodee or someone else will jump in and keep it going.
 
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