Far Cry 5 - Feb 27, 2018
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- Hammerhead Garage
I loved Far Cry 4 (and mostly enjoyed Far Cry 3, but there were structural issues with the narrative), so I will definitely check this out.
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Cover art:
Apparently the game has character customisation, Fallout 4-style companions who respond to your actions and a wider range of villains compared to previous titles.
Apparently the game has character customisation, Fallout 4-style companions who respond to your actions and a wider range of villains compared to previous titles.
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For me it's not so much creativity as it is a willingness to go places that other titles don't, won't or can't. Far Cry 3 was really about challenging the male escapist fantasy of being the hero and saving the girl that dominated the genre by presenting us with a group of people to rescue who were revealed to be not really worth rescuing at all. And Far Cry 4 was all about the nature of tyranny and how we say that we're opposed to it, but don't really know it when we see it by putting us in a scenario where the only way to win was to avoid playing altogether
Compare that to the average Call of Duty game, which amount to "kill these terrorists because they're terrorists (and I heard one of them say your butt looks big)".
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- MeanElf
Wot you jus' said
I wouldn't compare CoD with anything to be honest - formula = formula and that's as far as it goes.
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Where is it written that a shooter series cannot be original?
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It must be written somewhere, because the formula of FPS rarely strays from actual conflicts or science fiction.
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Those are just the AAA titles, the ones that sell big and can have a yearly release because developers can turn them out quickly. Far Cry isn't the only series that did something different - Bioshock went in its own direction, as do the Fallout games. Sure, you can find elements of science fiction in them, but you can also find other genre conventions. For example, I would argue that Bioshock Infinite has more in common with the Gothic genre (and not just because of the final level).
I would even go so far as to say that the entire concept of "genre" is outdated. In the above example, Bioshock Infinite is both Gothic and science fiction. Both are clearly-defined genres, but the game does not definitively fall into either one. And to complicate things further, its narrative does not deal with themes typically addressed by either genre. Instead of "genre", I prefer "style" - a combination of genre conventions, ganeplay structure and the composer's voice. Bioshock Infinite is not science fiction, Gothic or historical fiction, but a combination of all three with a voice that can only be Ken Levine's.
The same goes for Far Cry. The games are open-world first-person shooters that deal with contemporary concerns in fictional worlds with philosophical undercurrent. They act as a representation of an idea; we as an audience are forced to confront an idea that has been presented to us in a different context to what we are used to. In the case of Far Cry 5, we will have to address the relationship between religious fundamentalism, radical populism and grassroots political separatism. While we usually discuss such concepts in the context of Islamic extremism, Far Cry 5 repositions them to the American heartland. It's no conicidence that Montana was chosen for the setting; the developers point to it as existing on the frontier - where civilisation ends and the untamed wilderness begins. So I suspect that Far Cry 5 will be a contemporary Western, critically examining the lives and decisions of people living on the threshold between civilisation and the uncharted, murky depths of modern society.
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As Science Fiction can be set at any time in history, it can still be called SF - though I think Steam Punk might be a more apt sub-genre.
Agree that FarCry puts the player in an environment of moral dilemmas. I enjoyed Brink for exactly that reason, you play as both security forces and as the subversive uprising in different playthroughs of the game. It got panned of course, as it wasn't CoD.
Written in the Book of Convenience: chapter 5 section II
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I see the white supremacist extremist lobby is busy already - though it does seem a bit too rabid to be actually true:
https://www.change.org/p/ubisoft-cancel-far-cry-5
https://www.change.org/p/ubisoft-cancel-far-cry-5
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Apparently it's a fake petition (why you would create a fake petition is beyond me), but it seems that there is a second, genuine one out there calling for the Christian fundamentalist villains to be recast as Muslims.
Or the fact that their actions create a need for the game to be made.
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I assure you, no game developer is going to be brave enough to condemn these mother****ers to the dustbin of history they belong in.
Though if there is one company I do trust with at least trying to make an effort in condemning them, Ubisoft is definitely the one.
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Oh, I have no doubt about that.
I'm in two minds about whether they should respond. On the one hand, they clearly want to address certain key ideas and so can use the game as a platform for discussion. But on the other hand, I believe that a text should speak for itself - you don't need the composers to offer any further insight because the text already says everything on the subject.
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I thought that the fundamentalist whining about this game was pretty funny and blind on their part, as always. They seem to forget that the villains in this game are a fictional cult, and that one of the companions/heroes is a priest. Christianity is portrayed on both sides of the moral coin here, and as someone who considers myself Christian, I'll certainly look into picking this one up.
Some people nowadays seem to have trouble distinguishing hate speech and storytelling, and it's disturbing.
Some people nowadays seem to have trouble distinguishing hate speech and storytelling, and it's disturbing.
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Far Cry 5 is going to flop. I want a complete remake of Far Cry 2!!!
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You are completely entitled to your own opinion, but saying it's going to flop before it's even release is a bit harsh.
It might flop, or it might be one of the best games of the year. We simply don't know yet.
Harry Freq
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It just looks like Wildlands but with a different skin, As with everything Ubi touches these days they seem hellbent on destroying every franchise they have (AC seems to be the exception with Origins being decent) Really hope this is good but after how stunning 3 was and then the games that followed i have no hope for this.
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Far Cry 4 and FC: Primal were fine games, even improving on 3 in some ways.
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