Ferrari again

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Darin
We do not need that peice of **** in such a great game.

not tryna get on your case or anything but WOW, you absolutely hate that movie aye? Don't get me wrong though, I also think that RX-7 was pretty ghey.
 
Civicbus
not tryna get on your case or anything but WOW, you absolutely hate that movie aye? Don't get me wrong though, I also think that RX-7 was pretty ghey.
No its the fact that they are all movie cars. Just to look good. Nothing else. All rice. And yet they are worshipped. Just like that damn orange supra, and then that poor excuse for a Skyline...
 
Hey they may have slapped on some stupid body kit and more neons that any discotec, but it is still a skyline. Yeah I hate fast and furious, but instead of hating the cars I feel sorry for them. They could have been perfectly respectable, they had so much potential. Some one should save them.
 
and then that poor excuse for a Skyline...

Yeh its was kind naff,

It is a 50/50 chance of Ferrari, Porsche, and Lambo being in the game.

And true its 50/50 chance that Ferrari, Porsche & Lamborghini are in GT4, but its also a 50/50 chance that im guna get the logos of Ferrari, Porsche, and Lambo tatooed on my a*s :) , IMO I dont think that they are going to be in, but i can sit and see and if they pop up then nice but if not then oh well.
 
Ford 429 Hemi
Based on the fact that KY has said in the past that
A. the Nurburgring wouldn't be in the game
well it is and we have al seen it.
B. That GT4 would be pushed pack if major liscenses could be obtained
Well GT4 is already a year overdue, and KY just pushed it back more, he said winter, sorry folks November isn't winter. Winter technically starts december 22nd.
Now add this stuff up:
PD has already put a Lambo into a game, granted it was taken out for the US release, but it was still there. So they already have a Daiblo car model.
And the PD staff was seen driving Porsches and Ferraris in GT4P, why would they tease the fans? And now we see these drawers, two of which have Ferrari and some folks are saying they can make out a Lambo or Porsche Logo...
Yeah KY said that Porsche Ferrari and Lambo wouldn't be in GT4, but he said the same thing about the Burg. So adding all of that up...I come to this....
It is a 50/50 chance of Ferrari, Porsche, and Lambo being in the game.
Evidence is leaning more towards them being in the game. Constant delays....
some can argue that they added drag and other modes and other cars, well how do we know if they just added drag or just decided to show it since it was missing in GT2? It's all very secretive but all of the delaying is very convincing that PD is adding some serious content here.....
To address yuor points
A, KY never once said that the Nordschleiffe would not be in GT4, he did asy that LeMans wasn't possible in GT4 due to the detail of the track the PS2 couldn't do it. There are many reasons why the Nord could be in a nd not LeMans, LeMans would require much more power to render in GT's detail since it has well over twice as much around the track, sure KY could do it if he made the track wth no scenery or just treelined all the way round like the ring, but the ring's like that in real life, LeMans isn't.
B, GT4 has never beeen pushed back since it hasn't had a release date before, Sony wanted the game out last christmas but KY said it would be out when it's ready, he never planed on releasing GT4 until it was done to his satisfaction. It is true that he said he would delay the game for major licenses like Ferrari and Lamborghini, but he also said it wouldn't be that big a delay if he would do such a thing.
C, the fact PD have a Lambo model, ie the Nomad Diablo GT, in no way hints at PD having a license for Lamborghini's, they got that car in the Japanese GT3 through the racing teams license, but Lamborghini forced PD to remove it since they needed a license from them. Also the Ferrari's ad Porsches seen on the GT4P bonus DVD were from a staff day out, nothing more. All PD did was film a staff day out and thats all we know about it, so reading anything more into it is pointless because even if Ferrari's and Porsche are in GT4, unless KY says so, we'll never know if there was any meaning in that vid besides it just being extra footage for people to watch.
It's is in no way a 50/50 chance, chance doesn't come into it, they can either legally get the licenses in which case I think they will, or the can't legally get them, in which case they wont. As for drag racing, thats been planned since GT2 so it's no after thought, PD will have planned that to be in GT4 just like they did GT2 and GT3, the difference is that they've spent longer on GT4 and been able to implement it to their satisfaction, PD did get to work on a drag mode in GT2, they had it in, but because it wasn't ready in time they removed it.
Finally, the delaying is nothing since the game hasn't been delayed, KY is doing his best to make GT4 as good as he can, sre theres going to be plenty of suprises and news about GT4 before it's release but we still haven't een the drift mode, tuning world or online modes yet and they will be seen as big news.
 
Live, Kaz actually did say the Nurb couldn't be done on the ps2. I recently read about that. I'll try and find it. I dont remember him ever saying the le mans was impossible on the ps2 and I have heard, on this board Le mans would be in. It was mentioned in the OPM UK impression of gt4 and someone mentioned PD took photos of the le mans.
 
live4speed
B, GT4 has never beeen pushed back since it hasn't had a release date before, Sony wanted the game out last christmas but KY said it would be out when it's ready, he never planed on releasing GT4 until it was done to his satisfaction. It is true that he said he would delay the game for major licenses like Ferrari and Lamborghini, but he also said it wouldn't be that big a delay if he would do such a thing.
C, the fact PD have a Lambo model, ie the Nomad Diablo GT, in no way hints at PD having a license for Lamborghini's, they got that car in the Japanese GT3 through the racing teams license, but Lamborghini forced PD to remove it since they needed a license from them. Also the Ferrari's ad Porsches seen on the GT4P bonus DVD were from a staff day out, nothing more. All PD did was film a staff day out and thats all we know about it, so reading anything more into it is pointless because even if Ferrari's and Porsche are in GT4, unless KY says so, we'll never know if there was any meaning in that vid besides it just being extra footage for people to watch.

Now, Lamborghini has a greater chance than Ferrari. Seeing Lamborghini owned by Audi, it would be easier through audi.
But EA crams that Ferrari license in their pants and tells PD to try and get it.
 
EA doesn't have the ferrari rights. sega does. If you have seen their new arcade game, outrun, you'd see it's full of ferraris and outrun will be on the ps2 after the xb release.
 
Darin
Now, Lamborghini has a greater chance than Ferrari. Seeing Lamborghini owned by Audi, it would be easier through audi.
But EA crams that Ferrari license in their pants and tells PD to try and get it.


well, since Fiat owns Ferrari it shouldn`t be a problem to get the Ferrari-licence either then?

and KY said that Nürnburing wouldn`t be in GT4. but thats almost a year ago now.

anyways, why care? sure, i love ferraries more then anything in the world, and would love to see a old-school ferrari or the 355 in GT4 but i don`t think there will be one. that way, i`ll be suprised if there is a ferrari in there when i get the game(wich should be in 28 days :D). ifnot, i won`t be too dissapointed...
 
Yea, I dont remember him saying the le mans couldnt be in. Plus, the le mans is only 8 miles long. The nurb is way bigger than that.
 
cobragt
Yea, I dont remember him saying the le mans couldnt be in. Plus, the le mans is only 8 miles long. The nurb is way bigger than that.
Yeah, and its nothing but trees on the side.
 
I think a mag article printed that KY said the ring wasn't possible, but in the interview with KY a while back, the track he mentioned was LeMans, NOT the ring, he's never once said he couldn't do the ring. As for the lenth of the track, re-read my last long post to see why the Ring is easier to do than LeMans.

as for Fiat owning Ferrari, the Fiat group owns Ferrari, Fiat automobiles doesn't. The chance of Lamborghin being in GT4 has nothing to with them being owned by Audi, if theres already a license out there thats exclusive, or excludes a company like PD from using it then it doesn't matter if KY himself owns Lamborghini, they just won't be in. Apparently, SEGA owns a Ferrari license, but EA own a bigger one which is exclusive with the exeption of SEGA, this license is due to expire anytime around now according to a source for IGN, thats the only source I've seen thats said that outside of these forums.
 
i think both gamespy and IGN posted that KY had said that Nürnburing wouldn`t be in GT4. but that is quite a while ago now. anyways, it`s in :)
 
I need to find that site with the quote. I got it from that german gt site. I believe Kaz mentioned the nurb could be done due to the advancements in their tech. I dont see how the Le mans could be really a problem to get in gt4. And like I was saying, the Le mans track was mentioned in the OPM uK preview of gt4.
 
live4speed
I think a mag article printed that KY said the ring wasn't possible, but in the interview with KY a while back, the track he mentioned was LeMans, NOT the ring, he's never once said he couldn't do the ring. As for the lenth of the track, re-read my last long post to see why the Ring is easier to do than LeMans.

as for Fiat owning Ferrari, the Fiat group owns Ferrari, Fiat automobiles doesn't. The chance of Lamborghin being in GT4 has nothing to with them being owned by Audi, if theres already a license out there thats exclusive, or excludes a company like PD from using it then it doesn't matter if KY himself owns Lamborghini, they just won't be in. Apparently, SEGA owns a Ferrari license, but EA own a bigger one which is exclusive with the exeption of SEGA, this license is due to expire anytime around now according to a source for IGN, thats the only source I've seen thats said that outside of these forums.
I wouldn't go with ign's word, seriously.
 
cobragt
I need to find that site with the quote. I got it from that german gt site. I believe Kaz mentioned the nurb could be done due to the advancements in their tech. I dont see how the Le mans could be really a problem to get in gt4. And like I was saying, the Le mans track was mentioned in the OPM uK preview of gt4.
LeMans would require almost three times the detail to get it right, theres far, far more to render at LeMans than at the Ring thats why the Ring can be possible, but LeMans might not be. Don't get me wong, theres still a chance LeMans will be in GT4, but LeMans if done at the same lod would require more power from the PS2 to render than the ring. Saying that KY said the ring wasn't possible is a popular misconception, what he did say was LeMans wasn't possible, and many reasoned (including myself at the time) that since the Ring is so much longer, that would be even harder to do, but it's not.
 
Lets just hope for the best :) I remember reading about 20 to 25 licensed tracks in gt4. If you ask me, there's a big chance of Le mans being included but like I said, lets hope for the best.
 
cobragt
Lets just hope for the best :) I remember reading about 20 to 25 licensed tracks in gt4. If you ask me, there's a big chance of Le mans being included but like I said, lets hope for the best.
I would like some fantasy tracks though.
 
cobragt
...outrun will be on the ps2 after the xb release.
Is it? Where did you read that? I have never seen any news about it, I thought it was only coming out on XBox.
 
cobragt
There will be fanasty tracks. The tracks from past gt's will be in so I would guess the number of tracks in gt4 would be 80 or more.
👍 I mean, new fantasy tracks.
 
FatAssBR
Is it? Where did you read that? I have never seen any news about it, I thought it was only coming out on XBox.
Well, looks like I was wrong. I looked at a few gaming sites and I dont see outrun2 as a ps2 game but I remember hearing it was coming to the ps2 but that was in Aug.
 
You never know what PD will have for us. I'm sure there will be true fanasty tracks in. I just hope the complex string is out, that track wasn't technical at all. And the test tracks was boring, I hope the test track from gt1 is in, I loved that track!! And pikes peak from gt2 is welcomed to be in gt4. Imagine it rendered in the gt4 engine :eek:
 
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