Finally, A Prius I Would Drive

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Wasn't this the one that was found to be bogus?
 
How is that fake? There's definitely enough proof in the images.
 
Hmm. The work looks real, maybe someone just stole those images from somewhere for an ad. Even still, somewhere, there's an LS1 Prius.
 
Just a matter of whether it actually works or whether it's an elaborate set up.
 
If you are going that far just as hoax, there is something wrong with you. I would not go through that much work without finishing it, especially as close as that is to being done.
 
hsv010
Just a matter of whether it actually works or whether it's an elaborate set up.
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As I explained in my previous post #30, that ALL boils down to traction. If they are using stock Prius tires, the car is worthless and will not be beating anyone on or off the track.
 
CAMAROBOY69
As I explained in my previous post, that ALL boils down to suspension and traction. If they are using stock Prius tires. The car is worthless and will not be beating anyone on or off the track.
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I meant is it just a set up to go viral or is it actually a ridiculous project. Whatever way, it's definitely never going to be anything effective on track.
 
CAMAROBOY69
As I explained in my previous post #30, that ALL boils down to traction. If they are using stock Prius tires, the car is worthless and will not be beating anyone on or off the track.
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You don't need to have 295's on it for it to have traction, especially if that engine ends up being stock. Suspension doesn't need to be ridiculous either.



https://www.youtube.com/user/jtdandnme/videos


Tires aren't huge and he's using stock leaf sprung suspension. Seems to hook up fine.
 
hsv010
Wasn't this the one that was found to be bogus?
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The bogus thing you're referring to is some guy here in Seattle keeps posting this LS1 prius for sale on craigslist. But the build itself is very much real. The shop doing it has their own facebook page about it.
 
@Slashfan
I do agree the suspension doesn't have to be crazy. But tires are very important.

Even you know enough about cars to realize how small in width Prius tires are. The Prius was designed with tires to handle about 75hp. Even a low hp LT1 is pushing 300hp which is 4x more than those tires are going to handle. The drag car you posted is running 10" wide racing slicks. A Prius has maybe 5"-6" of STOCK STREET tire width. I am honestly not even going to argue about this. There is simply no way stock Prius tires are going to handle an LT1 engine. Perfect example: Go put stock Prius tires on an LT1 Camaro and see how well it does. :lol:

Maybe we misunderstood the quote. It said stock prius wheels. Maybe they just mean the wheel design. Maybe they are running MUCH wider tires.
 
CAMAROBOY69
@Slashfan
I do agree the suspension doesn't have to be crazy. But tires are very important.

Even you know enough about cars to realize how small in width Prius tires are. The Prius was designed with tires to handle about 75hp. Even a low hp LT1 is pushing 300hp which is 4x more than those tires are going to handle. The drag car you posted is running 10" wide racing slicks. A Prius has maybe 5"-6" of STOCK STREET tire width. I am honestly not even going to argue about this. There is simply no way stock Prius tires are going to handle an LT1 engine. Perfect example: Go put stock Prius tires on an LT1 Camaro and see how well it does. :lol:

Maybe we misunderstood the quote. It said stock prius wheels. Maybe they just mean the design. Maybe they are running MUCH wider tires.
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Yeah I do know that :lol:

Would be hilarious to see though.
 
Joey D
Not really, it's made it less cool. Putting a LS1 in anything is so overdone now it's just boring. Swap something like a turbo 2.0L out of an old Celica or something and it would be cool.
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It's overdone because of how much sense it makes.

As I said before, even if the LS swap didn't make sense from a performance standpoint. This is probably about putting a V8 in a car that represents the opposite.
 
McLaren
So, you're not a fan of Tesla or these new hybrid sports cars? Because they're being green as well & how they're driven will depend on the owners.
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No gear changes or engine noise? Absolutely not! You'll also have to pay a lot of money to buy one when you can get a better performing gas-powered car for less money. Gas-powered cars are also more tunable than electric cars.

It disapoints me that these blasphemic sports cars have been accepted in the automotive community.
 
Zenith
It's overdone because of how much sense it makes.

As I said before, even if the LS swap didn't make sense from a performance standpoint. This is probably about putting a V8 in a car that represents the opposite.
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Sure it makes sense since LS1's are readily available and I imagine relatively easy to swap as far as engine swaps go, doesn't make it cool though. I've become bored with Chevy small block swaps in vehicles, just because it seems so unimaginative.

And I agree that the owner is probably doing it to "mock" what the car stands for, which seems sort of lame to me.
 
JMoney689
No gear changes or engine noise? Absolutely not! You'll also have to pay a lot of money to buy one when you can get a better performing gas-powered car for less money. Gas-powered cars are also more tunable than electric cars.

It disapoints me that these blasphemic sports cars have been accepted in the automotive community.
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I like the fact that they're at least trying to make electric sports cars. Tesla is cool and all but for the same money I'd rather take a Corvette or Viper.
 
JMoney689
No gear changes or engine noise? Absolutely not! You'll also have to pay a lot of money to buy one when you can get a better performing gas-powered car for less money. Gas-powered cars are also more tunable than electric cars.

It disapoints me that these blasphemic sports cars have been accepted in the automotive community.
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That's pretty funny. I bet there was somebody named J. Money a few hundred years ago that scoffed at all the professional engineers who were experimenting with internal combustion engines.

"Look! They're trying out this fancy new technology and it isn't even providing immediate game changing performance without any time to develop the technology! Steam engines/horses are so much better than gas powered engines.

It disappoints me that internal combustion engines have been accepted!"

That's great. You know what disappoints me? Ignoramuses who are so high on their ivory tower that they aren't even aware of how far they've been left in the dust. It goes from disappointing to annoying when they think they speak for an entire community and then I get to deal with people treating me like a "Me want big ingin and noises" oaf because I like cars.

You are not an engineer. Hush now and let the grown ups work.
 
Zenith
That's pretty funny. I bet there was somebody named J. Money a few hundred years ago that scoffed at all the professional engineers who were experimenting with internal combustion engines.

"Look! They're trying out this fancy new technology and it isn't even providing immediate game changing performance without any time to develop the technology! Steam engines/horses are so much better than gas powered engines.

It disappoints me that internal combustion engines have been accepted!"

That's great. You know what disappoints me? Ignoramuses who are so high on their ivory tower that they aren't even aware of how far they've been left in the dust. It goes from disappointing to annoying when they think they speak for an entire community and then I get to deal with people treating me like a "Me want big ingin and noises" oaf because I like cars.

You are not an engineer. Hush now and let the grown ups work.
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And you are?

We had the capability to build electric cars a hundred years ago; you can't say they are more advanced. When the internal combustion engine was developed, it was accepted much faster because it was clearly more efficient than steam power.

Electric cars are being built to satisfy the wants of the green movement, nothing more. Cars with gasoline engines are currently better in nearly every aspect than electric cars. If a company manages to build an electric car than can outrun a used Camry, but costs less, I MIGHT be able to accept and respect it.

But you know what? That's not going to happen in my lifetime. If electricity is to succeed gasoline, it would have done so already.

No, I don't speak for the automotive community; I'm only against the traitors who want to change it.
 
Does it say something that I knew a V8 was involved simply from the thread title? It wasn't because of the thread creator, as GTP12's gray colors tend wash out to white on my laptop screen.
JMoney689
Electric cars are being built to satisfy the wants of the green movement, nothing more. Cars with gasoline engines are currently better in nearly every aspect than electric cars.
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I agree on both but that doesn't mean the electric car won't get any better any time soon, and the fact that we were able to build cars driven by electric motors a hundred years ago doesn't mean battery technology has already had its chance.
JMoney689
No, I don't speak for the automotive community; I'm only against the traitors who want to change it.
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An electric car built to satisfy green-minded individuals isn't anti-enthusiast any more than your typical base model commuter car; it's just a product, made to suit the desires of consumers who may or may not give a crap about the stuff we like about cars.

Teslas and the hybrid sportscars are actually pro-enthusiast. They propose a solution to legislative pressures like CAFE and emissions laws that will preserve exciting cars built to be driven fast, instead of simply cutting fuel-wasting fun cars out of the market. If you have a problem with the way things are going, petition lawmakers or go prospecting for fossil fuel deposits rather than rallying against "traitors" in the automotive industry.
 
JMoney689
If a company manages to build an electric car than can outrun a used Camry, but costs less, I MIGHT be able to accept and respect it.

But you know what? That's not going to happen in my lifetime. If electricity is to succeed gasoline, it would have done so already.
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You do realise that oil (from which gasoline/petrol is derived) is not in infinite supply, right? :odd:
 
JMoney689
And you are?

We had the capability to build electric cars a hundred years ago; you can't say they are more advanced. When the internal combustion engine was developed, it was accepted much faster because it was clearly more efficient than steam power.

Electric cars are being built to satisfy the wants of the green movement, nothing more. Cars with gasoline engines are currently better in nearly every aspect than electric cars. If a company manages to build an electric car than can outrun a used Camry, but costs less, I MIGHT be able to accept and respect it.

But you know what? That's not going to happen in my lifetime. If electric cars are to succeed gas cars, they would have already done so.
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DK
You do realise that oil (from which gasoline/petrol is derived) is not in infinite supply, right? :odd:
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Yes, but I don't think electricity will be it's replacement.
 
Battery technology is nearly here but even if we had the technology people still wouldn't buy electric cars. Why would someone buy a 25k+ electric car for daily commuting when he could buy a 5k Civic and do the same job much cheaper. Just because we can make electric cars doesn't mean regular non-tree hugging people will buy them. There has to be a practical reason. Same reason Cars were invented in 1880's but only became available to the working family in the late 1910's when the Model T came out.
 
Harry6784
Battery technology is nearly here but even if we had the technology people still wouldn't buy electric cars. Why would someone buy a 25k+ electric car for daily commuting when he could buy a 5k Civic and do the same job much cheaper. Just because we can make electric cars doesn't mean regular non-tree hugging people will buy them. There has to be a practical reason. Same reason Cars were invented in 1880's but only became available to the working family in the late 1910's when the Model T came out.
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People in the market for new 25K electric cars are not cross shopping with 10 year old Civics. This is such a bad argument, you could say it for virtually any new car ever released, why would someone spend 20K on a new Civic when you can get a 5K one that does the same job? Why would someone spend $40k on a new BMW when a 5K Civic does the same job? Just because we can make luxury cars doesn't mean regular non-corporate people will buy them.

As for a "practical reason", the entire point of electric cars is that you don't need to use gas to run them. Is that not a practical reason to buy one?
 
Noob616
People in the market for new 25K electric cars are not cross shopping with 10 year old Civics. This is such a bad argument, you could say it for virtually any new car ever released, why would someone spend 20K on a new Civic when you can get a 5K one that does the same job? Why would someone spend $40k on a new BMW when a 5K Civic does the same job? Just because we can make luxury cars doesn't mean regular non-corporate people will buy them.
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When you're buying a car you're paying for the amenities it provides; whether that is performance, luxury or MPG. Pick any electric car in the market right now and I can find a gasoline powered car that has the same features at a fraction of the price. That is my whole point. Electric cars now are too expensive for the regular middle class worker to afford.

Not everyone has 40k lying around to blow on new cars :)

Noob616
As for a "practical reason", the entire point of electric cars is that you don't need to use gas to run them. Is that not a practical reason to buy one?
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Not when they go 150 miles on a charge and takes 8+ hours to fully charge, no not practical at all.
 

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