First Bugatti Veyron crash

[Speedster502]

Look I am really sorry for
a) Ruining this thread completely
b) Saying stuff that isn't neccesarilly true
c) Arguing against the moderators
d) Enforcing my opinion soooooo strongly it was bound for trouble

So please could we erase this chapter from the GTP History books, and forgive me for being such a idiot?

 

[1X83Z]

Lord. I've checked out thousands of these Bugatti Veyron threads, and only on this contentious site has it gone down this way.

 

[Famine]

Look I am really sorry for
a) Ruining this thread completely
b) Saying stuff that isn't neccesarilly true
c) Arguing against the moderators
d) Enforcing my opinion soooooo strongly it was bound for trouble

So please could we erase this chapter from the GTP History books, and forgive me for being such a idiot?

You're entitled to your opinion, of course. I wouldn't necessarily say you've anything to apologise for either.

Lord. I've checked out thousands of these Bugatti Veyron threads, and only on this contentious site has it gone down this way.

Viva la difference.

 

[ExigeEvan]

Anyone know the future of it?

If it goes to a Scrap dealer I am spending my savings on a taxi and a wheel nut from the Buggati.

 

[jammyozzy]

Oh man, I'd love to be the merchant who gets hold of that car if it is scrapped. It'd be worth it just to get hold of that engine.

 

[Wolfe]

Oh man, I'd love to be the merchant who gets hold of that car if it is scrapped. It'd be worth it just to get hold of that engine.

Maybe you could try to shoehorn it into a DSG Passat or something.

 

[ExigeEvan]

I bet the engine goes back to Buggati for spares

 

[jammyozzy]

Maybe you could try to shoehorn it into a DSG Passat or something.

I'm not sure what I'd put a Veyron engine into actually. Maybe I'd just clean it up and put it on a plinth somewhere, and every now and then turn it on just to listen to it.

 

[the Interceptor]

Maybe you could try to shoehorn it into a DSG Passat or something.

I want an 8 litre W16 Smart!

But I suppose it'll just go ...

 

[1X83Z]

Anyone know the future of it?

If it goes to a Scrap dealer I am spending my savings on a taxi and a wheel nut from the Buggati.

Keep your savings. That Enzo is still on the road. If that didn't total the Enzo, this won't total the Veyron. Period.

 

[Robin]

Gosh im thinking to how lucky the scrap merchant who receives it will be!... Dunno what I would do with it, probably take keep the engine and sell every little piece of the rest of it on ebay..... maybe keep the badges, dash, lights and spoiler though!

Maybe I could weld some aluminium and make a kind of kit car and put the engine in it...... a 1001 HP Caterham 7!!!

 

[1X83Z]

Once again. Not totalled.

 

[Scaff]

Once again. Not totalled.

I have to agree with M5P on this one, the damage looks more than repairable.

In addition even if the car had been an insurance write off I can almost certainly guarantee that it would not end up with a scrap dealer. The most likely event would be that Bugatti themselves would buy the car off the insurance company, ensuring that they control the disposal of the vehicle.

Regards

Scaff

 

[Specialized]

I also agree that the car will not be written off as if i remember correctly for a car to be an insurance write off means that it will cost more to repair than the current market value of the car in question?

I may be partially wrong but im fairly sure thats the general idea behind an insurance write off and i cant see the cost of repairing that Veyron being more than £850,00 or whatever the car is worth.

Spec....

 

[Robin]

Thing is, would the car ever really be the same again..... With such a precision piece of kit the slight imbalance in any component is going to have a negative effect after hitting something the shock waves are going to travel right to the rear of the car through the engine.

I bet even if Bugatti could rebuild it they would say that the car can no longer be safe for top speed runs unless they replace every nut and bolt in it!

Also if I was that rich, I wouldn't want a fixed up Veyron back.... I wouldn't believe it would be of the same quality, it would be sub standard (with welds and stuff done inside etc).. I would claim the insurance, get back maybe half of what its worth (sadly) and buy another! but that is for people with too much money...

Shouldn't have crashed it in the first place!

Robin

I refer to one of my previous posts...... if your that rich you wouldn't want a fixed up Veyron.....

 

[MazdaZXi]

If you're that rich, you can strip it back to the chassis and get Pininfarina to design a new body for it, like it did with that Ferrari Enzo P4/5. It would certainly be in keeping with Bugatti's tradition from the Thirties of bespoke coachwork from specialist firms.

You couldn't build a modern version of an old model, though, the Veyron's mid engine layout wouldn't suit any of the older shapes.

 

[Dave A]

Coachworking a Veyron wouldn't be easy, every subtle change in the shape could be disatrous to the cars colling and aerodynamic balance, you could also place a higher stress on the tyre's. What you'd probably end up with is a pretty generic looking supercar in order to overcome thoes cooling and balance issues that are magnified so much at 250mph.

 

[MazdaZXi]

Coachworking a Veyron wouldn't be easy, every subtle change in the shape could be disatrous to the cars colling and aerodynamic balance, you could also place a higher stress on the tyre's. What you'd probably end up with is a pretty generic looking supercar in order to overcome thoes cooling and balance issues that are magnified so much at 250mph.

I doubt any of those issues stopped Pininfarina with the P4/5. I know that car was wind tunnel tested, but if you owned a one-off special like that, you'd probably be happy just knowing it will do 200+mph, rather than trying to find out if it really does. I know I would...

I think if you removed the two-tone paint and horseshoe grille, the Veyron would be a pretty generic supercar shape anyway. Admittedly a very aerodynamic one, but it's not particularly groundbreaking. I've always considered the Veyron to be more about all the technology that's been stuffed inside than anything else.

 

[1X83Z]

I refer to one of my previous posts...... if your that rich you wouldn't want a fixed up Veyron.....

GO BACK A PAGE AND LOOK AT THE SPLIT IN HALF ENZO. THAT WAS REPAIRED.

If YOUR rich, you get your ****ing things fixed.

Ferrari has just purchased Steffan Eriksson's old Enzo to repair, and an Enzo that literally BURNED TO THE GROUND in Houston was repaired. This one:

Christ. Why post if you've no idea what you're on about?

 

[Slick Rick]

When you say 'repair' you cant mean literally. It would be too dangerous to repair a 200+mph car from that condition. They must mean a complete re-build with those Enzo's. The Bugatti can be repaired for sure imo.

 

[ExigeEvan]

Keep your savings. That Enzo is still on the road. If that didn't total the Enzo, this won't total the Veyron. Period.

Bah, humbug.

 

[Robin]

GO BACK A PAGE AND LOOK AT THE SPLIT IN HALF ENZO. THAT WAS REPAIRED.

If YOUR rich, you get your ****ing things fixed.

Yeah I get what your saying and I guess its possible to totally fix, but is a patched up Veyron going to go 249 mph? Would you trust being in the patched up Veyron a 249 mph? I bearly would trust a new Veyron with my life at that speed! Sure they can repair it but it will NEVER be the same unless its a whole new car..... bolts and all.

Just found this quote on the net that made my laugh!

A spokesperson for Surrey Police said: “We are investigating a collision which took place on Sunday involving a Bugatti Veyron and Vauxhall Astra estate"

I just love the way they say it in such a normal way! I never thought I would see the word Bugatti and Vauxhall Astra Estate in the same sentence!

 

[1X83Z]

When you say 'repair' you cant mean literally. It would be too dangerous to repair a 200+mph car from that condition. They must mean a complete re-build with those Enzo's. The Bugatti can be repaired for sure imo.

Ferrari owners think they simply took the VIN plate and transferred it to a spare chassis. It's still the same car though.

Yeah I get what your saying and I guess its possible to totally fix, but is a patched up Veyron going to go 249 mph? Would you trust being in the patched up Veyron a 249 mph?

I would trust it - they made it in the first place and they can definitely fix it.

 

[land sea air]

I would say that deep pockets can fix damn near everything, there might even be some sort of test once the car is fixed to make sure its still safe...

 

[Speedster502]

Just found this quote on the net that made my laugh!

A spokesperson for Surrey Police said: “We are investigating a collision which took place on Sunday involving a Bugatti Veyron and Vauxhall Astra estate"
I just love the way they say it in such a normal way! I never thought I would see the word Bugatti and Vauxhall Astra Estate in the same sentence!

As much as I hate the Bugatti that quote does sound pretty funny. Who's fault will it be? hmmmm. I would laugh so hard if the owner of the Vauxhall Astra was speeding and the Bugatti wasn't. But that is impossible really. Does anyone know if the Astra was a new one or the old one or the really really old one?

 

[Scaff]

I would say that deep pockets can fix damn near everything, there might even be some sort of test once the car is fixed to make sure its still safe...

Its not unheard of for manufcaturers to take cars that have already been crash tested, repair them and then crash test them again. I know that Volvo certainly have used this as part of a marketing campaign in the past.

It helps them develop repair methods that they know will keep the car to a safe standard.

Regards

Scaff

 

[Dave A]

I doubt any of those issues stopped Pininfarina with the P4/5. I know that car was wind tunnel tested, but if you owned a one-off special like that, you'd probably be happy just knowing it will do 200+mph, rather than trying to find out if it really does. I know I would...

The Pinninfarina P4/5 doesn't go 220+mph, let alone 250+. There is a vast difference, it's not just 40mph, as speed increases, in many cases effect multiplies. Besides that, 250+mph is one of the Veyrons big bragging rights, if you take the performance away you may as well have bought an Aston Martin. I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying imo it would seem to be a pretty foolish project that could well cost many times the cost of the car itself and at the same time decrease the cars performance capabilities.

 

[land sea air]

The Pinninfarina P4/5 doesn't go 220+mph, let alone 250+. There is a vast difference, it's not just 40mph, as speed increases, in many cases effect multiplies. Besides that, 250+mph is one of the Veyrons big bragging rights, if you take the performance away you may as well have bought an Aston Martin. I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying imo it would seem to be a pretty foolish project that could well cost many times the cost of the car itself and at the same time decrease the cars performance capabilities.

This is very true, and I'm not saying its definitely possible, but since the P4/5 performed better aerodynamically in some ways than the Enzo I'm sure that with enough money it could be done with the Veyron too, and since the P4/5 cost around 6m then I would bet my dog that the supposed coach built Veyron would make an airplane seem reasonable. On a final note I think that this car will either go back to VW for testing and possible spares, or be repaired and go back to its owner who will never ever let anyone drive it ever again

 

[Escalade_dude]

Oh no!

Yeah, we can't blame the driver without more information.

Right. Maybe the driver was going too fast. Anything could have happened to make this car crash. The question is, what happened?

Keep your savings. That Enzo is still on the road. If that didn't total the Enzo, this won't total the Veyron. Period.

Alfa police cars? I never saw such a thing!

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

update

Remember that Veyron crash from a few months back? The driver, 39 year old Ajay Soni has finally had his day in court.

Ajay had popped over to his brothers house in Shepperton back in March to collect the joint owned car and went for a drive. Heading towards Chertsey in wet conditions, Mr Soni accelerated around a left hand bend up to 65 mph before realising he was carrying too much speed and applying the brakes. The car aquaplaned into the path of an oncoming Astra causing both cars to spin. All occupants avoided serious injury.

Mr Soni accepted that he was travelling too fast for the conditions and received a fine of £400 and was given nine penalty points.

The £830,000 Bugatti is back at the factory undergoing extensive repairs.

Rumours that he was given a courtesy Micra with 'Bugatti Crash Repairs' written along the side are unfounded.