Just so we can also clear thing up on my end, since I got the brunt of the lashing here, that statement you posted was all I was trying to convey. My use of words and phrases, although perfectly clear on my end, was obviously misunderstood by everyone else. I never meant anything was binding, set in stone or the like. Just a projection on a time when something might possibly happen. My bad. End of story on my end.
Well, IN MY OPINION, the drive has a pretty nice price. Only $200, with a remote and a movie, to sample the new technology isn't bad IN MY OPINION. And, it is OPTIONAL afterall. If you don't want it, you don't HAVE to buy it. But for those that do want it, it is very reasonably priced, IN MY OPINION.
True, in a few years a lot of things will be better, and cheaper. But really, in a month or so, when this drive is available, it does make for a decent deal, IN MY OPINION. If someone is not a hardcore videophile, but does have an HDTV, and likes playing games, IN MY OPINION, spending $500 to get the Xbox and the HD-DVD isn't that bad. You are spending basically the same $$$ as a stand alone HD-DVD player, that only plays movies. But, with the Xbox, you get the same movie playing capability PLUS the ability to play games. That sounds like a pretty decent box really, IN MY OPINION.
That means I'm confused. I wasn't mad, but you thought I was. Hence the confusion.Duċk;2436281
That isn't my intended way of having to post here. But if I don't do that, it seems things go all to hell. So, thats how it is.Duċk;2436281
IN MY OPINION, you are wrong. But, thats just me.Duċk;2436281
I really hope you aren't talking about the PS3 with that statement. Because, IN MY OPINION, the PS3 has the worst controller upgrade ever from a previous version. Sure, its wireless now. Thats a given with modern controllers, so nothing special there. And, it has tilt functionality, but no rumble. So, you gain one feature to lose another. IN MY OPINION, I'm not sure I would call that "better" than what is available. But, I'm going to wait until I use all 3 to make judgements on which is "better" while in use.
Such as?
Both will be able to output 1080p, and both will be able to be firmware upgradable to keep relatively current. So again, IN MY OPINION, I don't think I would say either the PS3 or the XBox have a big advantage over the other.
Yes, free online. But, its also free online that no one yet knows about. It could turn out to be fantastic, and free. But, it could also turn out to be completely dreadful, and SHOULD be free. We won't know that until its in use. And from what I read, the PS3's online network won't be up and running until sometime in spring. So, for 6 months or so, you'll be waiting.
This I still question the need for. How a game looks or plays is not dependent on storage space on the disc media. Look at Elder Scrolls. On both Xbox and PC, its just 1 DVD. That is arguably the best looking game available at the moment, on any system. Yet, it fits on one single DVD. Hell, back in the day when games came on CD, you could run Quake 3 at ove 1600x1200 if you had the horsepower. The resolution you output, that being 1080p for the PS3, is not dictated by how much space you have.
Yea, because that little box just takes up SOOOOO much space. I hope that was a joke.
Well, apparently to you it is. And, thats fine. But, there is no FACT about it. Something can't be a "fact" and at the same time be "possibly" something else, which you claim. But really, IN MY OPINION, It depends on what you need and want. If you take both $600 setups, and compare them, you aren't missing too much. Here is how I see it for me.
But, value is defined by a person, not a spec. As I said in my reply to Jeremy, those extra features are nice, IF you need them. And as I said in that reply, for what I personally need and use, almost all of those extra "features" are going to go unused. So for me, there is no "value" in it.
Compared to the 360 and HD-DVD player, the PS3 has, well, Bluetooth (so you can pick up any average wireless headset for the price of the wired 360 headset, and it allows communication with other bluetooth devices), card readers (so importing videos and photos to the PS3 is really easy), being able to view your own videos and photos on the PS3 in general, Wi-Fi, HDMI, the list goes on. However, all this is useless if you don't have a use for it.
The PS3 will be able to output 1080p via HDMI, and that'll probably be easier than going it via component or VGA since not nearly as many TVs support 1080p via component or VGA.
Completely 100% agreed.
The problem with this is that Oblivion nearly completely filled up the 9GB of disc space. And this is a game that came out 4 months after the release of the Xbox 360. 4 years from now, when games are a lot more graphically advanced, it's likely most games will be using multiple DVD9s, and games like Oblivion can't do that. It's a massive handicap. Where as with Blu-ray, you have tons and tons of extra space, and you don't have to limit anything.
The little box by itself takes up space, although it's not much.
Agreed on everything except the extra space on discs part, for reasons listed above.
That is true, but I was basing it purely on specifications (which in hindsight may not have been the proper way to go about it).
Truthfully, I beleive that the HD discs may not be needed for at least a year, but after that the XBox will probably be at a disadvantage. There was a very good discussion about it in the PS3 thread, from post # 2953 on, so long as you ignore one persons posts (not Jeremy's, for the record). There was another discussion about it, but I can't find it. It involved GT4, I believe. I'm looking for it now.JNasty4G63
No, not currently it isn't. But, once the update happens, thers is nothing stopping developers from designing games to run at that res. Sure, current 720p games are just going to be scaled up. But given time, they most certainly can start coding for 1080p natively.
If you think that, IN MY OPINION, you need to read up more on the GPU they use. The ATI chip that is in the Xbox, while not directly comparable because of the on-die DRAM, is very similar to a desktop X1800 GPU. And, the X1800 is perfectly capapble of 1080p. Well above, actually. You couple that VERY capable GPU with a 3-core CPU, and you easilly have enough graphical power to produce a native 1080p image.
I got what you meant though. And yes, going just on specs and technology, the PS3 does have a lot going for it. It just up the the consumer as to whether they NEED it.
I agree with that, to an extent. I don't argue that more storage space is always welcome. And, down the road, XBox developers MAY get to a point that mulit-disc games are needed. But, I don't think 50GB is going to be needed. Kind of early to say for sure, but IN MY OPINION the huge ammount of extra space a Blu-Ray disc affords developers is going to go largely unused for quite some time.
Those Sony XBR LCD's with 1080p are very expensive. The Sony SXRD you're showing is the XBR2 which isn't out yet (and will also be expensive). The Samsung DLP is the HLS-88 series which is also pretty expensive (an extra $500 over the 87), and it says 1920x1200 for VGA, doesnt list 1920x1080 (though it prolly does work).
Well, any LCD like that, with a 1080p panel is going to be expensive with those features. You get what you pay for. But really, IN MY OPINION, both the Sony XBRs and the Sammy 95s and 96s are great monitors for what you get. At roughly $4k for a 46" 1080p LCD panel, thats pretty good, really. Compared to projection sets, sure they're going to be more. But, big, flat AND 1080p doesn't come cheap.
No, the 40" and 46" XBR2 and XBR3 are out, and have BEEN out for about 2 months now. They came out early August. The XBR2 is the same exact set as the XBR3, only the "Piano Black" framing on the XBR3 different.
Just so you know, the old XBR1 sets were replaced by the new XBR2s. And the 1080p SXRD XBR2 sets WILL allow a 1080p signal from the VGA input. As far as I can gather, of the current new sets, if it isn't an XBR, it won't. But, from what I've found, almost all the XBR sets will do it.
Not to back-track, or whatever, but I found some info that contradicts what you are saying about the 1080p output....
http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=13877Microsoft @ GameDailyBIZ
