Formula 1: Formula One Santander Italian Grand Prix

[JGreens]

Well wait how can Schumi be that great since 2000

Schuey's F1 career started in 1991, not 2000. How could you not know this?!

Also driving an STR extremely well compared to your teammate in 08 is a big deal, maybe not to you but then again no one said you were smart.

Wasn't that the same year Heikki Kovalainen won a race as well?

I've also provided the fact that Vettel has driven from the back to finish on the podium but still logic defeats you.

Please show which race where Blondie has qualified lower than THIRD and won.

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Your anguish sustains me.


It's got to the point where I'm cheering on Vettel purely because I want to see your reaction. To see him win, and then your tears and whining in here, is quite frankly, hilarious. I burst into laughter when I heard Vettel won, because I knew you would be furious.

Brilliant! But no tears, just disappointment.

 

[Dennisch]

Btw, Grosjean has been very lucky that his car held up during the race after Di Resta destroyed his car on his rear end.

Apart from the battle for first, all other places have seen good fights. Good race overall, but it should have rained, bringing more strategy into the battles, and most certainly even more excitement.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Schuey's F1 career started in 1991, not 2000. How could you not know this?!

I do know that, you're the fool that is assuming otherwise. Vettel's career didn't start in 2010 it started in 2006, how could you not know this?

Wasn't that the same year Heikki Kovalainen won a race as well?

Are you really that moronic, is your animosity and trolling so ignorant that you make this claim. Kovalainen should have won, he was in a damn WDC winning machine.

Please show which race where Blondie has qualified lower than THIRD and won.

So that's the only thing that makes a great driver, you know the mods telling you to leave this subject in the past may need a return.

 

[JGreens]

I do know that, you're the fool that is assuming otherwise.

Your post assumed it did. I simply corrected you.

Vettel's career didn't start in 2010 it started in 2006, how could you not know this?

Please post the quote where I supposedly said this. I didn't.

Are you really that moronic, is your animosity and trolling so ignorant that you make this claim.

No, I do actually believe it's true. Hungary, if I remember?

you know the mods telling you to leave this subject in the past may need a return.

You don't tell them what is and what isn't their job to do.

 

[Blitz24]

You don't tell them what is and what isn't their job to do.

Nobody is telling them what to do, LMS is simply reminding you what happened.

 

[GTracer38]

I just saw that too.. is that legal?

Not sure.
Anyone got any reason why that was happening?

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Your post assumed it did. I simply corrected you.

No it didn't, ask anyone here and they'll tell you your talking out your rear. You also took part of what I said and ran with it since that wasn't the full quote, so you only have yourself to blame for being confused. The point is if you are going to sit their and act like a child saying "Newey is the real winner" then any lead aerodynamic engineer or team engineer should be given credit for a dominant season in F1 and the driver should not be seen more than some dope strapped to it. That means the Prost/Mansell comment is qualified.

Please post the quote where I supposedly said this. I didn't.

I didn't say Micheal started in 2000 either, but that didn't stop you from being an ass and trying to make some BS claim. Just taking a page from your book.

No, I do actually believe it's true. Hungary, if I remember?

What about Hungary? Heikki won so what? It doesn't change the fact that it was in a championship car and not something like the STR, Williams or Honda. Also seeing how it's been well established here that Heikki proved he didn't deserve the McLaren seat and you've said it too (if I remember correct), I find it funny you use him to support a moot argument.

You don't tell them what is and what isn't their job to do.

I'm not telling them what to do, they actually told you to stop commenting on it and it worked for the community. That is all I'm saying, you seem to be fearful they may actually instate this again.

Nobody is telling them what to do, LMS is simply reminding you what happened.

So I am speaking english, and not some language of a distant planet, thanks Blitz.

 

[JGreens]

No it didn't

Your post said exactly, "Since 2000" which is incorrect. Schuey's career started in '91, and he won WDC's before 2000. So you are INCORRECT.

ask anyone here and they'll tell you your talking out your rear.

Why would I want to ask anyone here about anything you posted?

You also took part of what I said and ran with it since that wasn't the full quote, so you only have yourself to blame for being confused.

I'm not confused. I'm amused. You stated "Since 2000" which was incorrect. I laughed and posted the truth.

The point is if you are going to sit their and act like a child saying "Newey is the real winner"

Please quote my post where I said that exact phrase.

What about Hungary? Heikki won so what? It doesn't change the fact that it was in a championship car and not something like the STR, Williams or Honda. Also seeing how it's been well established here that Heikki proved he didn't deserve the McLaren seat and you've said it too (if I remember correct), I find it funny you use him to support a moot argument.

No, I use him as an example that somebody can win one race from a dominant qualifying position and be utterly talentless in a poor car.

I'm not telling them what to do, they actually told you to stop commenting on it and it worked for the community. That is all I'm saying, you seem to be fearful they may actually instate this again.

Your words were "may need a return" - asking for intervention, rather than what Blitz claimed was merely "reminding" me. You, quite nicely put though, have asked for action to be taken.

 

[Pagey279]

Your post said exactly, "Since 2000" which is incorrect. Schuey's career started in '91, and he won WDC's before 2000. So you are INCORRECT.

Nope. The year 2000 is when Schumi's Ferrari was leaps and bounds ahead of the rest, and after this year was when he won the most of his WDC, he won WDCs before this yes but after this year is when Ferrari completely dominated everything. So when he said "since 2000", that's what LMSCorvette was hinting at, Schumi having the best car and winning everything.

 

[Dennisch]

Should we discuss today's race or are we going to keeping feeding the green troll?

 

[Blitz24]

This was a good race.

 

[Dennisch]

Yes it was. I really hoped that Webber would get back to P2, but the damage was probably just a bit too much to get Alonso.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Your post said exactly, "Since 2000" which is incorrect. Schuey's career started in '91, and he won WDC's before 2000. So you are INCORRECT.

Read Pagey's post, since you only took a sliver of what I orginally said and tried to make me look uninformed about F1 a sport I've probably followed longer than you've been on this earth. If I had said Schumi started racing F1 in 2000 then I could understand you spouting off, but your are trying to divert the point to save face that you never had on this forum. Pagey279 set you straight.

Why would I want to ask anyone here about anything you posted?

True since everyone is obviously against you

I'm not confused. I'm amused. You stated "Since 2000" which was incorrect. I laughed and posted the truth.

It wasn't incorrect, that is when his dominance for WDC consecutive titles started at Ferrari (comparable to Vettel of current). That is what I'm saying, if you don't know that part of the timeline and easily see the reference you're either purposely being ignorant to win a debate or actually that ignorant.

Please quote my post where I said that exact phrase.

That's right Horner, you congratulate winner Newey, all his hard work today...

There you go, what's funny is when I say you said something I'm right. when you do it, it's clear spin as if your running for political office.

No, I use him as an example that somebody can win one race from a dominant qualifying position and be utterly talentless in a poor car.

Yeah the problem is Heikki has never shown a drive like Vettel or even a chance in hell at being a single WDC driver forget 3 consecutive WDC.

Your words were "may need a return" - asking for intervention, rather than what Blitz claimed was merely "reminding" me. You, quite nicely put though, have asked for action to be taken.

Everyone is actually asking, I'm clearly reminding you that it could happen again if you take this road.

 

[Bram Turismo]

This happens at every race. Wonder why?

Because haters gonna hate.

Vettel won this race. Easy.

Vettel will be crowned a fourth-time world champion this year. Easy.

Vettel will go on to become one of the, if not the, most succesful drivers in this sport's history. Easy.

Suck it up haters.

 

[JGreens]

Pagey279 set you straight.

Since you like quoting his post, I will too "that's what LMSCorvette was hinting at"
Hinting. I said that I assumed. No clear explanations given. So I took what I read, laughed, and post entirely correct and clear information. You're trying, and I'll admit convincingly (In the same way that Blondie is convincing people that's actually any good) that you clearly, obviously meant something from your vaguely amusing post.

True since everyone is obviously against you

Does that bother me? Nope.

That is what I'm saying

Yeah, about five posts after you posted it. Makes perfect sense.

There you go, what's funny is when I say you said something I'm right. when you do it, it's clear spin as if your running for political office.

Sorry, but that's waffle - please point out exactly where that phrase was in the comment you've quoted. I still cannot see those exact words in that exact order. I think you'll find it difficult to do so, because I didn't. So, you could please, please stop with the bull.

Yeah the problem is Heikki has never shown a drive like Vettel

A drive like Blondie? What drive? He hasn't drove a memorable race in his entire career.

Everyone is actually asking, I'm clearly reminding you that it could happen again if you take this road.

Now that's reminding, unlike what you said earlier which was "a return"

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

delete

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Since you like quoting his post, I will too "that's what LMSCorvette was hinting at"
Hinting. I said that I assumed. No clear explanations given. So I took what I read, laughed, and post entirely correct and clear information. You're trying, and I'll admit convincingly (In the same way that Blondie is convincing people that's actually any good) that you clearly, obviously meant something from your vaguely amusing post.

Once again I was talking about the era at Ferrari, which everyone but your feeble mind could understand. In fact I posted about Schumi in a post last night that indicates me knowing exactly when he started so their goes your argument.

Does that bother me? Nope.

Obviously not, it wouldn't help your troll cred if you did care.

Yeah, about five posts after you posted it. Makes perfect sense.

Actually I explained it before that last post, you're the only one that complained you didn't understand. So obviously you're just here to troll about Vettel.

Sorry, but that's waffle - please point out exactly where that phrase was in the comment you've quoted. I still cannot see those exact words in that exact order. I think you'll find it difficult to do so, because I didn't. So, you could please, please stop with the bull.

It's called paraphrasing, and I did so in a correct manner if you want to lie and act as if you didn't maybe you should review the AUP. You sure love to back-peddle.

A drive like Blondie? What drive? He hasn't drove a memorable race in his entire career.

Maybe not to you he hasn't but then again he's still going down as a legend at the end of the day. So me trying to tell you otherwise doesn't matter.

Now that's reminding, unlike what you said earlier which was "a return"

A return, as in it could return because you keep going this route to try and uproot the forum.

Because haters gonna hate.

Vettel won this race. Easy.

Vettel will be crowned a fourth-time world champion this year. Easy.

Vettel will go on to become one of the, if not the, most succesful drivers in this sport's history. Easy.

Suck it up hater.

Fixed

 

[ExigeEvan]

Also, Lewis Hami looks like he is about to cry his eyes out.

I think LH has got way too many issues in his personal life right now, looks like a kicked puppy.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I think LH has got way too many issues in his personal life right now, looks like a kicked puppy.

I don't see how that hurt his weekend he looked good going into Quali and he just had a tough break. Then he had a slow puncture which explains why the hard tires gave him so much trouble in his first stint. After that it was out of his hands and he had to push.

 

[Dennisch]

I think LH has got way too many issues in his personal life right now, looks like a kicked puppy.

He looked the same after quali yesterday, but I thought that that was juat disapointment. Guess not.

 

[ExigeEvan]

I don't see how that hurt his weekend he looked good going into Quali and he just had a tough break. Then he had a slow puncture which explains why the hard tires gave him so much trouble in his first stint. After that it was out of his hands and he had to push.

He looked the same after quali yesterday, but I thought that that was juat disapointment. Guess not.

It just looked a whole different level to a normal disappointing weekend.

Perhaps I read the Daily Mail website too much, but he looked to me like a guy hung up on his recent relationship issues.

 

[JGreens]

In fact I posted about Schumi in a post last night

So before the race? What use is this? None. I was debating about the uses of share-based investments last night, whoop de doo.

Obviously not, it wouldn't help your troll cred if you did care.

Troll cred? What's that, some form of currency you just created?

So obviously you're just here to troll about Vettel.

Actually I'm here to complain about the standard of racing in F1 today. It was another poor race, this cannot continue. If Bernie knows anything about business, he'll know you can't keep selling a product that less and less people want.

It's called paraphrasing, and I did so in a correct manner if you want to lie and act as if you didn't maybe you should review the AUP. You sure love to back-peddle.

You even quoted the words where you thought I said those words! This is getting desperate. I said - That's right Horner, you congratulate winner Newey, all his hard work today...
at no point is the word 'real' used. You're just a liar.

Maybe not to you he hasn't but then again he's still going down as a legend at the end of the day. So me trying to tell you otherwise doesn't matter.

Yeah, so was Barry Bonds until the truth came out.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

It just looked a whole different level to a normal disappointing weekend.

Perhaps I read the Daily Mail website too much, but he looked to me like a guy hung up on his recent relationship issues.

I thought they were back together, since that is what people said at Spa. Also the guy is hard on himself because he wants to be perfect all the time. His perfectionist attitude when he fails himself makes him look like a malnourished dog.

 

[ExigeEvan]

I thought they were back together, since that is what people said at Spa. Also the guy is hard on himself because he wants to be perfect all the time. His perfectionist attitude when he fails himself makes him look like a malnourished dog.

Not according to reports only days old in the gossip news, and his kicked-puppy tweets.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

So before the race? What use is this? None. I was debating about the uses of share-based investments last night, whoop de doo.

It makes sense since it was actually about his rookie years at Jordan and Sports Car racing. So it's quite relevant to the fact that I know what I'm talking about, as you grasp at straws.

Troll cred? What's that, some form of currency you just created?

You tell me, you're the one that comes here to troll us.

Actually I'm here to complain about the standard of racing in F1 today. It was another poor race, this cannot continue. If Bernie knows anything about business, he'll know you can't keep selling a product that less and less people want.

If that is true then why is it in every thread about F1, you make comments toward Vettel. If you actually cared about the sport why not comment about the state of pay drivers and how it diminishes F1, or the regulations and gimmicks that also hurt F1. What you seem to suggest is that Vettel winning hurts the FOM, and they should make an attempt to stop him from doing his job. If it's a concern to you there are plenty of other auto sports you can invest yourself into.

You even quoted the words where you thought I said those words! This is getting desperate. I said - That's right Horner, you congratulate winner Newey, all his hard work today...
at no point is the word 'real' used. You're just a liar.

I'm not lying it's called paraphrasing you might wanna look it up kid, or have your teacher inform you about it come Monday. My paraphrase shows that I was properly showing what you had said, if you want we can take this to site support and ask them to clear this up.

Yeah, so was Barry Bonds until the truth came out.

Now you are suggesting Vettel is somehow cheating, do you have evidence for this claim?

EDIT:

@Exige can I see the tweets if you have them, I'd like to have a laugh.

 

[stiggygonzalez]

Overall a decent race today.
Vettel winning is so boring though.
Hopefully next season will be more interesting with the new regulations.

 

[JGreens]

If that is true then why is it in every thread about F1, you make comments toward Vettel.

Because it's him - his style, attitude, personality, quips, titles and victories that are affecting the product. It's not Red Bull that is the problem, it is him. Personally. People do not like him. They don't like his quips on the radio, they don't like his cold personality, they don't like how he suddenly got gifted the seat at Red Bull and the lack of race-craft battles and overtakes and moves that were 50/50, or the lack of passion in the car, they don't like how he always qualifies well and simply disappears leaving the fans watching the scraps for 2nd or 3rd when they want battle and competition for the victory, for the title. They want action. And I agree, one hundred percent with them. It is him. It is not the car, it is not Horner, or Newey or even Marko, or the money they spend on the team, it is him. He doesn't have the arrogance of Schuey, or the self-assured confidence Hakkinen had, he doesn't have the passion of Alonso or the speed of Kimi, he has nothing, nothing personally notable about him that makes him special, talented, gifted other than what his car can do. It is him, Personally, that is solely responsible for this slump we are in.

I'm not lying it's called paraphrasing

First you say I said it, now you say you're paraphrasing what I said.

Now you are suggesting Vettel is somehow cheating, do you have evidence for this claim?

Hmph, I'd call driving that Red Bull basically cheating, it's so far ahead of the competition - what was he today, eleven seconds ahead of Alonso, and people have the gall to call it a race.

 

[Blitz24]

Because it's him - his style, attitude, personality, quips, titles and victories that are affecting the product. It's not Red Bull that is the problem, it is him. Personally. People do not like him. They don't like his quips on the radio, they don't like his cold personality, they don't like how he suddenly got gifted the seat at Red Bull and the lack of race-craft battles and overtakes and moves that were 50/50, or the lack of passion in the car, they don't like how he always qualifies well and simply disappears leaving the fans watching the scraps for 2nd or 3rd when they want battle and competition for the victory, for the title. They want action. And I agree, one hundred percent with them. It is him. It is not the car, it is not Horner, or Newey or even Marko, or the money they spend on the team, it is him. He doesn't have the arrogance of Schuey, or the self-assured confidence Hakkinen had, he doesn't have the passion of Alonso or the speed of Kimi, he has nothing, nothing personally notable about him that makes him special, talented, gifted other than what his car can do. It is him, Personally, that is solely responsible for this slump we are in.



First you say I said it, now you say you're paraphrasing what I said.



Hmph, I'd call driving that Red Bull basically cheating, it's so far ahead of the competition - what was he today, eleven seconds ahead of Alonso, and people have the gall to call it a race.

Yep, playing within the rules and doing it more efficiently is cheating.

HEY EVERYONE! The Miami Heat, New York Yankees, Jimmie Johnson, they are all cheating regardless of what happens!

 

[Darren.]

He was not gifted a seat at Red Bull. Like Daniel Ricciardo, he had to prove he was good at Toro Rosso before being upgraded. And he did exactly that 5 years ago on the very same track as today.

 

[Danny]

he has nothing, nothing personally notable about him that makes him special, talented, gifted other than what his car can do.

Y'know what I love about Formula BMW? I love how all the cars are identical so the races come down to driver skill.

Gosh, I hope no-one carelessly leaves something lying around that shows you have no idea what you're talking about.

Oh no!