Formula 1 Grand Prix du Canada 2011

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Any crash and highlights videos would be greatly appreciated. Happened to be out for FP2.
 
VeyronGlen
I'm really hoping it is the same as in 2007 and 2010. Lewis Hamilton on Pole then taking the win in the race. Would be better if it was a McLaren 1-2 like last year. :)
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I"m hoping it's like Montreal 2008... Except, Obviously Raikkonen isn't here.

SUPER NUMBBER
Sergio PĂ©rez shouldn't fart in front of Adrian Sutil. He's got a weapon right in front of him.
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Nevermind that. Look at the look Maldonado's giving Hamilton.
 
Justin
Is it the tires that's causing all the crashes?
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Dirty "green" circuit which isn't used much, different tarmac (due to its need to last the harsh cold in Montreal and not break up in summer), kerbs catching drivers out and punishing mistakes and to throw it all up, yes the tyres will perhaps throw out the old Bridgestone setups the teams have been used to.
I think the crashes have all been down to a slippery circuit and high kerbs and close walls just punishing tiny mistakes by the drivers.

This circuit has always punished drivers, its not surprising to see the crashes already though perhaps not so many.
Its no different at Suzuka, Monaco, Interlagos and Albert Park. These tracks punish drivers and mistakes are easily made. I would add Spa to that list, but its not been so bad these days (though it caught Alonso out in the race last year).
 
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I am trying to explain this image.

So, Sutil is obviously bored.
Petrov looks like a KGB agent who is supposed to assassinate Hamilton.
Maldonado looks like Petrov, except he is not Russian.
Hamilton looks happy to have a camera pointed at him, but doesn't realize that he is about to be killed.
And Perez is probably still happy that he hit the barrier in Monaco with the side, not the front of the car.
 
Why has no one mentioned De La Rosa standing in for Perez? Pretty big news, especially considering Pedro is now a McLaren employee. Seems Sauber were already considering DLR to replace Perez just in case before the weekend, otherwise they wouldn't have let their reserve (Gutierrez) go to Mexico....
I wonder if Pedro will race in his McLaren overalls as he drove in practice? Possiblity of 3 drivers in Macca overalls on the podium?

One last hurrah for Pedro De La Rosa! đź‘Ť Gutted for Perez, I hope it isn't something more long term or indeed a problem that will affect his career. He seemed on the pace and fast in FP1. Hopefully he is back in the car for the next race.
 
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No, the core of my argument is "Ferrari will lose, because based on what we've seen from them so far this year, other teams are considerably stronger".
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But Montreal is a new track, and judging from what this track needs and what Ferrari has, they stand a good chance of winning as opposed to Red Bull, who I honestly don't see lifting the gold trophy on Sunday. And I'm not saying this just because I'm a Ferrari fan, would you expect a team with relatively slow top speed, and who has struggled at all low downforce tracks the year before to win over a team who has neither of those problems?

I'm betting on either McLaren or Ferrari to win. I doubt RB will even podium.

Anyway, opinions are opinions.
 
Ardius
Why has no one mentioned De La Rosa standing in for Perez? Pretty big news, especially considering Pedro is now a McLaren employee. Seems Sauber were already considering DLR to replace Perez just in case before the weekend, otherwise they wouldn't have let their reserve (Gutierrez) go to Mexico....
I wonder if Pedro will race in his McLaren overalls as he drove in practice? Possiblity of 3 drivers in Macca overalls on the podium?

One last hurrah for Pedro De La Rosa! đź‘Ť Gutted for Perez, I hope it isn't something more long term or indeed a problem that will affect his career. He seemed on the pace and fast in FP1. Hopefully he is back in the car for the next race.
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I think the reason why no one has mentioned it is because simply no one actually gives a damn about PDLR. No offence to the guy, but seriously, who cares any more? :sly:
 
It's a shame that Perez didn't seem to be fit enough though received a passed for the FIA medical check. Hopefully De La Rosa can put in some great performance in his first drive of the C30 Sauber...
 
It's not that he was unfit, but that he was unwell. The FIA medical check was to test whether he had recovered from is concussion - and it was carried out days ago. Perez could have easily picked up a viral infection in the time since.
 
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It's not that he was unfit, but that he was unwell. The FIA medical check was to test whether he had recovered from is concussion - and it was carried out days ago. Perez could have easily picked up a viral infection in the time since.
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I stand corrected then, thanks!
 
SaberFire
I think the reason why no one has mentioned it is because simply no one actually gives a damn about PDLR. No offence to the guy, but seriously, who cares any more? :sly:
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I do... I'm a fan of Pedro, go figure. I felt he copped a lot of undeserved flak last season considering his age and time out of a proper race seat, and I hope he can get up to speed this weekend. Apparently they didn't even have time to set up the pedals for him, he was driving with his own seat, but otherwise Checo's setup...

I am realistic in my hopes, as DLR has never raced with KERS/DRS, he said when asked about these things that he was having to look at the wheel and press the buttons, it wasn't natural yet for him, but hopefully the hour today will prep him enough to show a reasonable pace. What is our yardstick folks? Klien, Yamamoto in HRT? Badoer, arguably even Fisi in Ferrari? If Pedro can drive it around at a fair pace and finish respectably I think that he should deserve praise, not indifference and certainly not bashing. Something suggests this won't be the case.
 
I think de la Rosa will put the car roughly where Perez might normally. He's competent and strong enough to put it in Q2 and run around in the midfield. The extra paddles and triggers might be new to him, but I wouldn't be surprised if he spent the night with a steering wheel, testing himself by having someone tell him which button to activate and trying to do so without looking.
 
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I think de la Rosa will put the car roughly where Perez might normally. He's competent and strong enough to put it in Q2 and run around in the midfield. The extra paddles and triggers might be new to him, but I wouldn't be surprised if he spent the night with a steering wheel, testing himself by having someone tell him which button to activate and trying to do so without looking.
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Considering his approach to driving, which has been shaped by his years as test driver, and his work helping develop the Sauber last year, I wouldn't be suprised if you are right about him learning the wheel. All I was saying is that drivers pushed in mid season for a race or two haven't been able to get up to the same speed as we saw in the past (perhaps Klien is an exception, but he didn't have much competition). It is hard to come in mid season these days, unfortunately most people don't seem to see that when they knock drivers...

Sorry for going off on a tangent, I am ust mentally preparing myself to not rage when people inevitably claim DLR is hopeless and needs to retire and Checo could have won and all that jazz (and I say that as a fan of Perez, but in the whole Kubica/Heidfield thing we can see that the fastest drivers this season, according to fans, are those who won't see the cockpit. And again, I say that as a fan of Kubica).
 
Rossticles
The next four races are on FOX? 🤬

They have such horrible coverage.
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Wait. You mean you don't want dopey mascots dancing across your screen every five minutes to make sure you're at least mildly entertained and awake?
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I wanted to insert a picture of the cheesy "crank it up" graphic with the stereo speakers (as I recall it to be), but I can't find one. "Hey, this is so awesome you definitely want to make sure the neighbors can clearly hear it! Imagine how much more awesome it would be if your windows were rattling! (Besides, we figure you'll doze off if we don't entertain you with noise.)"

Oh, and how about sponsors and programming advertisements popping up on the screen every so many seconds? "And now your Tampax starting grid, brought to you by the good people at Tampax. Make sure to keep an eye on the Bud Light ticker across the edge of the screen, and never mind that the whole thing will just appear as a series of "Bud Light" logos periodically. Here come the starting lights, brought to you by Taco Bell!"

:yuck:
 
Pedro matched Kobayashi's pace last year in qualifying and generally in the races, although he suffered more bad luck and lacks the points to prove it. I wouldn't compare him to Badoer because Pedro has at least raced in the past few years (though Badoer is a much better driver than people think).

I reckon Pedro will be slightly off the pace and might be knocked out in Q1. I think its too much of an ask to jump in the car with little time to set it up properly and with an unfamiliar steering wheel and procedures to then put it within tenths of Kobayashi. I don't think he will be miles off the pace though, he should be ahead of the Virgins and Hispanias. The question is whether Lotus take advantage.
 
Ardius
Pedro matched Kobayashi's pace last year in qualifying and generally in the races, although he suffered more bad luck and lacks the points to prove it. I wouldn't compare him to Badoer because Pedro has at least raced in the past few years (though Badoer is a much better driver than people think).

I reckon Pedro will be slightly off the pace and might be knocked out in Q1. I think its too much of an ask to jump in the car with little time to set it up properly and with an unfamiliar steering wheel and procedures to then put it within tenths of Kobayashi. I don't think he will be miles off the pace though, he should be ahead of the Virgins and Hispanias. The question is whether Lotus take advantage.
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That is roughly my thoughts :) I feel that Pedro can drive competently here, but he has a mountain to climb if he wants points this race... And I know I am about to be chuckled at by recent F1 fans, but I still quite like Badoer and honestly believe that if he had driven a season from the start, or at least had some more time to get up to speed, he could have delivered solid, if not spectacular results.
I also agree with you on him roughly matching Kamui last season if luck was not against him, but I was slightly apprehensive about saying that here as I know most people don't see it that way... Odd, I was reading up on Zanardi today (wondering where he went after WTCC) and Pedro/Kamui last year reminded me slightly of Zanardi/Herbert at Lotus, two drivers that traded being the more on form, but didn't seem that way in the points tables... Unfortunately, and I say this as a fan of Kamui (yes I like a lot of drivers, but at least it means I generally don't end up "hating"), it seems that people were so busy saying how great Kamui was to be beating a "veteran" that they forgot that this "veteran" had not been in a race seat since 06, and not in a full time race seat since 2002. The fact that the old bull could race against the young and hungries is testament enough to his grit, and I feel he got a bad rap from fans last season.

Anyways, come on Sauber and Hispania :D Realistic hopes are for Ferrari and Mercedes to take it to the Maccas and Bulls...
 
Badoer's comparison against teammates was pretty good before he joined Ferrari and he never had the car (or the reliability!) to put in the points results to prove it. When he came back in 2009, he hadn't raced in anything since 1999 and had barely tested the F60. It was no surprise he was well off the pace and I think he would have done miles better if he had been given more time to test and improve. The fact Fisichella came in afterwards and struggled with that car only proves the point further. I always wonder what Luca could have done if he had replaced Schumacher instead of Salo in 1999.

De La Rosa has a similar history, he was pretty good at Arrows and ok at Jaguar and has proven to be a solid driver in the past. He's just not had the luck to prove it in results.
 
I'm agreeing with you mate :) I also remember Badoer saying that he felt that he was getting the hang of the car, his lap times were becoming consistant if not competitive by the end of his time in the seat. And yes, I think I actually brought up the point of Fisichella's issues after he replaced Badoer when this discussion was current back in late 2009. I find it sad that most people will remember Lookhow Badyouare instead of as a driver who showed massive potential, and the tester behind at least some of Ferrari's dominance in the early noughties. I remember interviews with Ferrari staff from that time where they said Luca never recieved as much praise as he deserved, that his role as test driver was invisible but vital.
I remember supporting Irvine/De La Rosa back in 01 in the Jag, I also followed him at Arrows but my memories at the time were a bit hazy on him (I was a Frentzen man first and foremost), and yes, he proved to be a solid driver but I feel he was never in a hugely competitive vehicle to prove it (save the 05 McLaren when he stood in for Montoya, and taking a podium in the 06 McLaren after jumping in for Montoya again was stellar :) )
 
Well that was an okay practise session, only red flagged right at the end... Mercedes look strong, as do McLaren... dunno if Webber's at a disadvantage here now with getting no running. We looking at rain for quali? If so I guess that is Mercedes at a slight disadvantage...
 

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