Formula 1 Grand Prix du Canada 2011

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And Button is one of the best on the grid at conserving his tires.

But Red Bulls have shown that they wear out heavily towards the end of their stints.

Wouldn't Vettel mention that his tyres were falling away then? It's a lot more preferable than his (gracious) admission that he simply made a mistake that caused him to spin.
 
Twice? You can't blame that on him for him being in the lead. It would have played into anyone's hand if they were in his place.

Button was lucky because he didn't have to risk an overtake move that might not have worked and could have dropped him down to 3rd or worse. The spot was given to him after Vettel's mistake. Again, that's not to take anything away from Button's drive.
Your string of apologist posts is really entertaining to watch :D
 
Wouldn't Vettel mention that his tyres were falling away then? It's a lot more preferable than his (gracious) admission that he simply made a mistake that caused him to spin.

His tires were visibly worse than Button's were.
 
Dont' forget, Button has 2 pending investigations. I hope that if found guilty, they give him a grid spot penalty. just don't take away that win

Best race I think I have seen

seriously, how the hell did Button win?
 
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Wouldn't Vettel mention that the tires were falling away then? It's a lot more preferable than his (gracious) admission that he simply made a mistake that caused him to spin.

That's a fair point :) Didn't think of that one, but for the last fee GPs we've seen RB slow down towards the end of stints, seemingly because of tyre wear. But it might just be right down to a drivers mistake this time :)
 
well, it's taken all night (7:30 am here now) but it was most definatly worth it. Night all

Edit: forgot the edit button earlier. I'm tired, so dont' shoot me foe accidentaly double positng (sort of)
 
I believe Vettel's tyres were 2 laps older* than Button's, whilst Webber's were 3 laps older.

* may have been younger. I just remember a 2 being mentioned over the radio.
 
Not really sure what to think about this. The race was world class, no doubt about it. But to see Vettel lose the lead right at the end to, of all people, Button, is very frustrating. Though contrary to last year he is comfortably leading this championship and basically still has it.

I think Schumacher and Kobayashi is worse though. Vettel, Schumi, Kobayashi would have been pretty damn good.

Let us not forget that Button is still under investigation. Nothing is set in stone yet.
 
Vettels were 2 laps younger, Webbers 1 lap older.

Vettel is really growing on me this season, he was very gracious in defeat, clearly praising the team and admitting it was all his fault. He had a very good drive, people say he was lucky with pitstops during safety car periods but lets not forget those same safety cars also killed every gap he pulled out several times.

Also an excellent drive from Schumacher, what a pass on Kobyashi and Massa.
 
I believe Vettel's tyres were 2 laps older* than Button's, whilst Webber's were 3 laps older.

* may have been younger. I just remember a 2 being mentioned over the radio.

Webber pitted one lap before Button. Vettel was the last leading runner to pit for tyres and had the newest tyres.
 
His tires were visibly worse than Button's were.

You forget that the Pirelli's run fine up to a point and then suddenly drop off. They may have been visibly worse, but if they had gone past their prime Vettel would have mentioned it, and his times would have reflected that drop off. Button was simply fast enough to pressure Vettel into an error.
 
Whether it was the car, or Button or a combination of both, it was an impressive run. It was like Button had NOS boost, the pace he was setting was beyond anything anybody else could muster up. Good job on him for not giving up for what was a frustrating start to his day.
 
Loved how masa got 5th by 0.05 seconds :p
Vettle and the RB7 unfortunatley is the best if there is nothing around him. As soon as you get into proper racing its both of the mclaren boys easily. Plus if vettle hadnt made a mistake, i reckon jenson would've done a banzai into the last corner and taken vettle by accident too :p
 
Some sense from Niki Lauda. Something has to be done about Hamilton.

I'm not entirely convinced Hamilton was particularly out of line this race. He wasn't the only driver making multiple contacts this race. The first incident was clearly his fault, but it looked more a case of making a mess of it in tricky conditions rather than a silly and dangerous attempt at an overtake. The second incident looked just that, a racing incident.
 
I have to side with Eddie Jordan instead of Niki Lauda. It would be a great shame to see Hamilton's zeal neutered by the powers that be.

Let's just sap F1 of all its on-track personality and excitement, shall we? 👎 Senna would side with Hamilton 👍

I'm really getting tired of people bringing up this excitement BS. Possibly endangering someone else's life because you're overly aggressive isn't fun nor entertaining - it's reckless and stupid.

This isn't to go on Canada in particular as I missed the beginning, I'm specifically referring to Monaco in this regard. I'll make a judgment on what happened today after I've seen the beginning (watching it now).
 
Some sense from Niki Lauda. Something has to be done about Hamilton.

Yeah, it's always sensible to say he could kill someone. Very rational. It's not like that's an over-reaction at all.

Not finishing the race is punishment enough, it's a wet race, it happens.

Fantastic race, Button's drive was insane, now to watch him get a penalty for hitting those RED things, even though said red thing was at fault.
 
Vettel on that final lap before the mistake was phenomenal to watch. I've never seen someone take a corner as raggedly fast as he did that first chicane on lap 70.
 
Hamilton vs Button. Racing incident. Button's fault if anyones.

We've been over this already. Button took the racing line. It's not Button's fault if someone he cannot see decides to go for a closing gap. Hamilton went for a gap that was always going to close.

Watch it again. See how Rosberg and Schumacher ahead drove the line that Button took too?
 
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