Formula 1 Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio Della Toscana Ferrari 1000 2020

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  1. PeterJB

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    So it looks like the back pack decided when the restart happened for themselves. Looked like Giovinazzi and Ltifi went first.
     
  2. Ether

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    He's just mad that he didn't play a role in any of the carnage
     
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  3. Rossell2

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    Thank god for the halo.
     
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  4. ROAD_DOGG33J

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    That's a good point. The back of the pack was expecting Bottas to go earlier. They closed up before the front stepped on the gas.
     
  5. PeterJB

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    30 minutes in and we've covered three corners.
     
  6. DQuaN

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    100% the fault of the drivers at the rear of the grid.

    However, it's to be expected really, there are no lights or visual confirmation of when to resume racing. What Bottas did was totally within the rules but I would expect those rules to be changed after this.

    I remember a few years back there used to be a "1st safety car line" that was at the begining or even before the start finish straight that you could start overtaking at. If that were introduced then this would not happen again.
     
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    And he was even in one of them.

    At this rate we'll have less races than a usual F1 season, but more starts :lol:
     
  8. Northstar

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    TFW F1 has more crashes than the last NASCAR race. :lol:
     
  9. Lateralus5813

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    It was not Bottas' fault based on the footage, looks like someone in the middle slowed down too much.
     
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    (Dutch) reporters said the safety car all weekend turned off the lights on exactly the same spot --> where the tarmac color changes in that turn.
     
  11. PaMu1337

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    So I guess everyone is changing to med/hard now.
     
  12. Sum1s2pid

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    It's like watching Super GT play Forza. :lol:
     
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  13. DesertPenguin

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    Cue people ready to say how they would've been fine without it and it looks ugly :p
     
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  14. GTFan24

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    Holy **** this race is somehow already worse than Spa, i never thought i would say those words
     
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  16. Roo

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    Well... yeah. If the start/finish line was nearer the last corner, the leader has to get going much earlier, so there's less likelyhood of cars travelling at vastly different speeds. This doesnt happen at, say, Silverstone where the line is right on the exit of the last corner.
     
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    Sainz commenting it's something that should be reviewed. Grosjean likely going to sign on with that. Wonder if other drivers will weigh in later and agree.
     
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    Just need an onboard of Albon and the picture is complete
     
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    Weaving was a large contributing factor IMO. I don't think they should be weaving once they're on the straight and about to start.
     
  20. ROAD_DOGG33J

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    I was wondering what the Scuderia Ferrari line was.
     
  21. DesertPenguin

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    Bottas did nothing wrong, but that's not to say the rule is right.
     
  22. McLaren

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    Don't a bunch of other motorsport series operate under, as soon as the safety/pace car is in, it's go-go-go?
     
  23. Frank McGank

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    If you look at the onboards of the backmarkers, they had slowed down to the point they hadn’t even rounded the final corner by the time Bottas was at the line. They then saw the green flags (which indicate the SC has come in, but NOT that the leader has actually started going again) and decided to start racing again. Before they came through the final turn, and before they could see anything. It’s ridiculous that people are even trying to blame Bottas for that, and if he gets a penalty then this sport is not worth watching anymore because it sets a precedent for drivers being penalised despite not actually breaking any rules simply because something they did was subjectively deemed ‘unfair/unsafe’.
     
  24. MikeV27

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    No way he gets a penalty.
     
  25. PeterJB

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    Outside the top 3 you're unlikely to be able to see the leader so you should follow the guy immediately in front.
     
  26. PaMu1337

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    Ocon also DNF
     
  27. ROAD_DOGG33J

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    Yes, yes it could.
     
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  28. Roo

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    It's in the technical regulations, under the heading "teams who have a veto over any rule change" :p
     
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    I feel bad for the fans in any grandstands that can't see the main straight or the first few turns. They've been watching TV like us this whole time.
     
  30. Samus

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    Bottas won't be penalised, but they'll look at procedures in future.
     
  31. PeterJB

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    So seven teams down to one car.