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psychoazubi
The vibrations are coming from the engine, which is mounted to a very stiff carbon fibre chassis, so it has nothing to do with the suspenion. In the past, MGU-H was able to dampen that mostly so it wasnt an issue, but with that gone, there are other measures necessary to avoid them. 5 out of 6 manufacturers managed to do that.
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Thanks for the clarification. That means then this was an oversight on Honda's part and not much of issue with the chassis itself? In the F1 article that I read, they said the vibration was so bad it broke the battery during testing which one of the main reason they stopped running. Guess it will be very interesting to see how they manage that in Melbourne.
 
AshenGraey
Thanks for the clarification. That means then this was an oversight on Honda's part and not much of issue with the chassis itself? In the F1 article that I read, they said the vibration was so bad it broke the battery during testing which one of the main reason they stopped running. Guess it will be very interesting to see how they manage that in Melbourne.
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As we understand it, there hasn't been a correlation to the chassis. We obviously have limited information but it sounds like, partly because of Adrian Newey's desire to have very tightly packaged bodywork, Honda had to redesign the layout of the PU and battery to fit the needs of the car design, reportedly this led to a 2 storey battery configuration which is what has been reported as causation, or contributed to, the worst of the vibration issues.

The AMR presser however seemed to deflect the issue away from the MGUK area, whether they include the battery structure in that, I don't know. There's also a lot of doubt floating around the the claim of extreme vibration through the drivers hands, there's no evidence from testing onboards of excessive vibration, you would surely see some rippling or movement of the gloves or distortion of the screen on the wheel, none of which has been apparent. The vibrations may well be extremely minute, but constant, to the point of not showing on a typical onboard camera, but it's definitely got it's doubters.
 
Alonso added: "The driver, we feel those as well and feel a little bit numb in the fingers and feet as well because of this low frequency all the time in the car."
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Sounds a bit like the constant tingly vibes you can get through the pegs on a bike.
 
To my memory we haven't had cars deliberately park since Arrows in 2002 but maybe Super Aguri, Virgin and HRT got that low at some points. Great company Aston is in.
 
Liquid
To my memory we haven't had cars deliberately park since Arrows in 2002 but maybe Super Aguri, Virgin and HRT got that low at some points. Great company Aston is in.
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Indianapolis 2005 technically counts here, as does the 2010 Virgin car which didn't have a big enough fuel tank to finish races.
 
Nacho Libre
Would it be possible for AM/Honda to completely drop out of the championship?
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Highly unlikely. Usually only serious financial issues cause teams to leave the championship. Super Aguri, Caterham, HRT and Lola Mastercard are the only modern day ones I can think of.
 
Pie O My
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Aston scrambling for better engines.

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It’s insane that they’re repeating the same mistakes as the McLaren-Honda partnership.

What has Alonso done to receive such bad karma?
 
Probably because he blasted them publicly and called them GP2 Engine 😆😋

All joking aside, how do you go from producing championship winning engines to your engine breaking so bad that it can't even last a whole race. Wonder what made them change their minds when they decided to leave F1 2 years ago. Did they dismantle that team that worked with Red Bull and started over completely from scratch?
 
Aston Martin in 2026 = BRM in 1976, you heard it here first*

* I am not a credible source, this goes without saying**

** does typing count?
 
AshenGraey
Did they dismantle that team that worked with Red Bull and started over completely from scratch?
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Yes and no, they plagued Toro Rosso a full season in 2018 with 12 retirements in 21 races but managed to outperform the Renault engine (ran by RBR) mid season after many updates and then Red Bull agreed to take Honda as new engine supplier in 2019 too and get rid of Renault (and Cyril Abiteboul, Horners nemesis before Toto Wolff).
 
If the 107% rule is in effect, neither Aston will even qualify for the race at this rate.
 
Ferrari looking racy, I hope that's not all they got in the bag. The Mercedes looks slow but according to the commentators, both Mercs and Mclaren are sandbagging heavily. As always, Red Bull and Max seems to be right there, Hadjar right behind him too. The top 4 seems to still be the top 4.
 
Blitz24
If the 107% rule is in effect, neither Aston will even qualify for the race at this rate.
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They wouldn't even qualify for the F3 race at this rate...

Forget the comparisons with Mastercard Lola, this is Andrea Moda/Life GP levels of terrible.
 
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Blitz24
If the 107% rule is in effect, neither Aston will even qualify for the race at this rate.
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-Fred-
They wouldn't even qualify for the F3 race at this rate...

Forget the comparisons with Mastercard Lola, this is Andrea Moda/Life GP levels of terrible.
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Admittedly that FP1 time by Stroll was a lap set during a VSC before the car broke down so it couldn't complete a representative lap.

Alonso's car had finally done an install lap now in FP2. Running is however still going to be crazy limited.
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Remember when Alonso complained about having a GP2 engine in his McLaren ages ago?

Boy, who knew that situation right now would be a godsend.
 
So every car in FP2 has the potential to be within 107%. Just Perez a merely 39 behind. Maybe he was replaced by Cadillac's cook.
 
The results not representing it but Russells longrun pace was brutal, half a second per lap quicker as Antonelli whos still had more than a tenth to P3 Hamilton. Tyres out of the prediction Red Bull was 3rd fastest team with already 0,8s back and McLaren another 0,5s added.
In quali sims Merc seems to hold back a lot with Piastri beeing 5-15 km/h faster on all speedtraps.

There were big differences how and where the teams managed their energy on quali runs. Red Bull was up to 36 km/h slower at one point while beeing 20 km/h faster at other speedtraps compared to the others. Quiet interesting teams coming to completely different solutions managing a quali lap.

Despite beeing Mercedes equipped it doesn't look so promising for Williams and Alpine but could probably be better on sunday when speculating stops.
 
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AshenGraey
Thanks for the clarification. That means then this was an oversight on Honda's part and not much of issue with the chassis itself? In the F1 article that I read, they said the vibration was so bad it broke the battery during testing which one of the main reason they stopped running. Guess it will be very interesting to see how they manage that in Melbourne.
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I refuse to believe this a pure PU issue that's solely down to Honda.
McLaren in 2017 were arrogant enough to call their chassis one of the best, and put the blame purely on Honda.
Look at what Honda and Red Bull achieved together. I refuse to believe Honda lacks the knowledge and expertise to resolve this issue.
I'm going out on a limb and say that Honda are probably given little to no wiggle room in order for Newey to design a perfect chassis.
 
Received bad information and have retracted my statement.
 
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