Formula One 2011 Airtel Grand Prix of India

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I think it needs a bit of a change because it's not him being the only one complained about it. Many have and obviously it's a fast corner so I think that extra curb shouldn't be that high... I wouldn't be surprised if we see more of those in the race when everybody is pushing as hard as they can.

I have an Idea, Have an electronic gate (like in skiing) instead of the extra kerbs, and any driver who is measured to have hit that extra bit of kerb is given a drive through for driving outside the white lines. This would stop drivers taking the liberty of using the extra kerb without the race organisers having to put possibly dangerous kerbs/posts to deter them.
 
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The kerbs are there to define the edge of the track and to stop shortcuts. You dont get it right, you pay the price. With all the run off areas and others things like that, mistakes aren't punished. These are supposed to be 24 of the most talented drivers in the world, you get too greedy with the kerbs, you should expect them to bite back.
 
Hoping for another lightning fast start from Alonso so hopefully Vettel gets held up and we get a proper race... :D
 
Hoping for another lightning fast start from Alonso so hopefully Vettel gets held up and we get a proper race... :D

I wouldn't doubt if Alonso got a good start and got passed Vettel into the lead. But if it's anything like the last few times Alonso has gotten a rocket start, then Vettel won't stay behind him for long.
 
The kerbs are there to define the edge of the track and to stop shortcuts. You dont get it right, you pay the price. With all the run off areas and others things like that, mistakes aren't punished. These are supposed to be 24 of the most talented drivers in the world, you get too greedy with the kerbs, you should expect them to bite back.

I agree completely.

Edit: Oh, and Alonso will win. Comfortably.
 
Would not call it a dog really. It´s been very quick in some GP´s.

The Red Bull is just superior in every way. You can see just how relaxed and calm the chassis is, must be a treat to drive that car.

I would love to see Hamilton in the RBR, my guess is he would dominate Vettel.
 
Aye, a mistake should hinder your lap, slow you down and make you have to correct, it should not be the same effect as a small mine exploding under your wheel, that was a really nasty bump to break the suspension like that, it's too high, just like the curbs at Singapore were too high.
 
It wasnt too long ago, where cars leaving the track would become beached in a gravel trap, drivers these days have it too easy, with massive run off areas.

Do you go around in your road car, hitting kerbs, no, why is that? It's because they may damage your car. The kerb's are there to help if you do go a little wide off the track (the wide black stuff) a little easier, if you go beyond the kerb's, well you are asking for trouble.

No one else is moaning about the kerbs, just Massa. He is like an old woman, if its not Hamilton it's something else.
 
Interesting fact tweeted by Martin Brundle
Martin Brundle
Due to grid penalties for Hamilton, Petrov, Perez, Ricciardo, and Karthikeyan 17 of tomorrow's 24 drivers won't start from where they qualified
 
Quite impressed with the track, haven't tried it on the PC version of F1 2011 yet unfortunately and just recently my wheel has become faulty. :(
 
That's weird. When two drivers finish the season on equal points, the person who scored a better result more-recently is considered to finish higher.

Eh?

Countback has, as far as I'm aware, always been a system to favour the drivers who has the most, highest finishes...
 
The person with the most 2nd places win the championship(or position)
If that´s equal then it´s the most 3rd places etc etc.
 
That's the same thing I just said, but worded slightly less simply.
 
It wasnt too long ago, where cars leaving the track would become beached in a gravel trap, drivers these days have it too easy, with massive run off areas.

Do you go around in your road car, hitting kerbs, no, why is that? It's because they may damage your car. The kerb's are there to help if you do go a little wide of the track (the wide black stuff) a little easier, if you go beyond the kerb's, well you are asking for trouble.

No one else is moaning about the kerbs, just Massa. He is like an old woman, if its not Hamilton it's something else.

Massa consistently finds a way to finish way off the podium, Sunday after Sunday. The fact that the F150 has been a huge disappointment has only covered up the fact he really is just an above-average driver nowadays. I'm surprised Ferrari hasn't gone after Sutil, or Di Resta, or even Kobayashi.
 
This race should be a good watch, and I think it will be quite hectic given that a sandmonster will appear everytime someone runs off of the track, those behind who don't keep a cool head and remember the next short stretch of road will be doing some 'hopes and dreams' driving for sure.

I wouldn't rule out someone running off deliberately just to put off the drivers behind him, this race is going to be somewhat fun but horribly dangerous too, so mixed emotions.

Will we see overheating engines due to sand in the sidepods/radiators? hmmm
 
Hoping for another lightning fast start from Alonso so hopefully Vettel gets held up and we get a proper race... :D

Vettel will pull away on lap one. Thanks to Lewis being penalized, Webber starts on row two but will probably fumble the ball with a poor start as he often does, allowing Alonso to immediately fall into second where he will stay. Button, starting behind Webber, could suffer from Webber's poor start, allowing Lewis to bypass him for fourth or even third as he'll be behind Alonso who follows behind Vettel.

Interesting note that on one side of the track from front to back we have Red Bull's fastest driver in Vettel followed by Ferrari's fastest in Alonso and then McLaren's fastest with Hamilton, and then on the other side of the track we have a train of these three team's slower drivers in order of Webber, Button, and Massa. I don't mean that as in "driver one and driver two" but rather as in "faster and slower". Maybe the fast train will pull away while the slow train bogs down behind Webber.
 
More to the point of radiators/sidepods/potential sand overheating, I wonder if some will be affected more than others, the McLaren sidepod opening may collect more sand than the others due to its outwards L shapes. And the Mercedes team has smaller openings for theirs... This could either hurt them or save them if sand does become an issue, this will be interesting.

As for Webber, lol, I think if I was launching a new brand of BBQs, it's slogan would be spoken as "Gets going faster than Webber" (Weber)

edit: did anyone catch word of which side of the track is the dirty side to start from?
edit2: Nevermind, found it, it's the odd numbered side.
 
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Countback has, as far as I'm aware, always been a system to favour the drivers who has the most, highest finishes...
If I finish the season with five wins and you finish the season with five wins, and we both have the same amount of points, what does the FIA do then? They count back to the most-recent result. So, if I won the last race of the season, I'm officially classified ahead of you in the standings.
 
Was anyone else impressed by Karthikeyans effort in quali? Only two hundredths off Ricciardo who is quite highly rated and Karthikeyan has not has near as much time as him in the car this season, well not lately anyway. Both HRTs also out qualify the Virgins for the first time this season too.
 
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^ I think he will be called by the stewards because of being full wheel drive[/Bad_joke]


I just saw the qualify and it seems like another win for Vettel, I hate to say this but with Vettel up front it will be hard for the others to catch up, Hamilton's pace has increased and he might have a chance if the strategy and first (8-10) laps turn out to be positive to him, a relaxed well paced race might be the thing that put LH back on the leads map.

I had high expectations for Button, but dropping to the 5th place and the balancing issues with the car makes me think that he wont finish within the top 3 (considering LH and Webber's pace).

Also, the layout for this circuit is really similar to China(specially the first sector).
 
If I finish the season with five wins and you finish the season with five wins, and we both have the same amount of points, what does the FIA do then? They count back to the most-recent result. So, if I won the last race of the season, I'm officially classified ahead of you in the standings.

From the BBC site,

Points are awarded as follows: 1st place - 25 points; 2nd -18; 3rd - 15; 4th -12; 5th - 10; 6th - 8; 7th - 6; 8th - 4; 9th - 2; 10th - 1. If drivers are tied on points, positions are decided on results countback. Wins are compared, and the driver with most wins is classified ahead. If wins are equal, second places are looked at, and so on.

From F1.com

The drivers' and constructors' championship titles are awarded to the driver and constructor who score the most points over the course of the season. In the case of a dead heat for a championship place then the driver or constructor with the higher number of superior race results will be awarded the place.

As others have said, its not based on recent result but on countback best finishing positions.
 
^ I think he will be called by the stewards because of being full wheel drive
Breaking news!
Dog allowed to start Indian Grand Prix

Fido, the stray dog who found his way onto the circuit in India, has been given permission to start the race after an appeal by Ferrari was thrown out by the stewards.

In a shock result, Fido set the fastest lap time at the Buddh International Circuit during Friday's free practice session. However, Ferrari protested against his entry, claiming his tail was a moveable aerodynamic part that gave Fido "up to seven points of downforce". Stewards initially agreed, prohibiting Fido from entering the race, but reversed the decision this morning after finding that his tail moved within acceptable limits during the sit, shake and roll over load test.

"We're disappointed," Ferrari team principal Stefano Domenicalli said. "Fido's tail clearly wags when he is racing, and when he was asked to demonstrate the importance of this part, all he could say is 'woof'. When we experimented with a moving wing earlier this week, we were told it was an illegal aerodynamic part. We intend to protest the decision to let Fido race at the next meeting for the World Motorsports Council."

Others in the paddock, however, welcomed the decision to let Fido race.

"There's nothing wrong with my driving style, no," Lewis Hamilton said, compeltely ignoring the question. "I see no reason to change it."

"I'm excited for him," Jenson Button said, completely ignoring Hamilton. "We'd never heard of Fido until today, but he's clearly a promising new talent. I think a lot of people will be following his progress with interest."

Fido was unavailable for comment, though a spokesperson said that he did chase is tail. He will start the race from sixth.
 
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