Agreed, and I'll back you up to expend more. Let's face it, autovista overall is a feature that should have never existed in a racing game, or any racing game ever. Fans of the franchise have never asked for it, auto shows are there for that and no can't say otherwise. I remember using it once or twice in FM4, but then I never used it again. There was no reason at all to cut half the cars that were modelled so good out. I mean come on, the Reventon too? The only reason I believe why the cars were cut out from FM5, is not because of Autovista, but to buy them again via DLC. Forza Horizon (from my experience) was used as a test subject to see if those were blind will buy its DLC that had some cars new to the series, some cars from the previous and some cars reused changing there appearances. Now that it had succeeded, T10 believes they can get away with it again due to, yet again, the fanboys. "Were not holding cars back" yeah okay Dan Lies a lot. I myself was a big fan of Forza from back then. I mean I said before Forza 1 was better than GT4, and I ain't lying. But now? Not anymore. Since FM3, T10 has changed Forza beyond anyone's belief, and noticed what they've been doing in their forums. Deleting anything that's negative about their precious franchise and banning people who say so as well. @Speedster911 nailed it down perfectly. I feel bad for you and the "true" diehard fans of Forza that have to suffer from all this. Not the fanboys that have T10 up their rear so far up, their gone. I also noticed this too, and the good example is in this thread.