Forza Horizon 6 - General Discussion

[nukleabomb]

Looks like the reviews copies are finally out.

The embargo lifts on May 14, 5:00AM PT

 

[TheAdmiester]

So you are telling me its the successor of Groove Music

No

 

[Michael S YT]

No
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From the article I read Windows Media Player 2022 is a successor and built upon Groove Music.

 

[Stang616]

From the article I read Windows Media Player 2022 is a successor and built upon Groove Music.

No, Windows Media Player has been around a lot longer than Groove Music. The Media Player app in Windows 11 replaced Groove Music, but it is not Windows Media Player. They are two different things.

 

[Digolgrin]

Bugatti's disappearance is probably a case of "too late to sign a deal with VW, too early to sign it with Rimac". I will be absolutely unsurprised if they will be reintroduced by month 6, possibly via a Monthly Playlist starring the Tourbillon.

As for the Senna... What if they didn't know what to do with the glass cutouts in the side doors (make them paintable? As part of the sides, or the side windows?) and decided to hold the car back until they can figure it out?

I think this makes the most sense IRT the McLaren Senna. If it WERE down to the name, the Senna estate, or even PG, would make some kind of public comment saying that they were unable to come to an agreement on the use of Ayrton's name. Technical issues make the most sense, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was one of the first cars added back.

Bugatti, though, definitely a case of 'we just don't know who to contact yet, the cars are in the files, we'll just add them back later once we get formal permission.' Kinda like what happened with Maserati, leading to the MC20 skipping FH5.

That being said, some kind of French Automotive Series where Bugatti and highly-requested returning French cars are the focus is definitely in the cards, lol.

 

[VXR]

They could have had the entire early discography of The Offspring, the career of Nirvana and the Mudhoney back catalogue and the music would still be turned off.

I'm playing a racing game, I never have music on.

 

[Michael S YT]

No, Windows Media Player has been around a lot longer than Groove Music. The Media Player app in Windows 11 replaced Groove Music, but it is not Windows Media Player. They are two different things.

I see.

I think this makes the most sense IRT the McLaren Senna. If it WERE down to the name, the Senna estate, or even PG, would make some kind of public comment saying that they were unable to come to an agreement on the use of Ayrton's name. Technical issues make the most sense, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was one of the first cars added back.

Bugatti, though, definitely a case of 'we just don't know who to contact yet, the cars are in the files, we'll just add them back later once we get formal permission.' Kinda like what happened with Maserati, leading to the MC20 skipping FH5.

That being said, some kind of French Automotive Series where Bugatti and highly-requested returning French cars are the focus is definitely in the cards, lol.

Why dont they just wait until they can bring back the Senna and in the meantime give no one the Forza Horizon 4 loyalty reward until they brought back the Senna? The Vulcan is British yes but its not worthy the loyalty reward only the Senna is so honestly they should just figure out the licensing and then bring it back and then reward anyone who has played Forza Horizon 4.

 

[Digolgrin]

Why dont they just wait until they can bring back the Senna and in the meantime give no one the Forza Horizon 4 loyalty reward until they brought back the Senna? The Vulcan is british yes but its not worthy the loyalty reward only the Senna is so honestly they should just figure out the licensing and then bring it back and then reward anyone who has played Forza Horizon 4.

Because it wouldn't make sense to delay one game's loyalty reward until it can be added back in the live service, if it ever gets added back at all. The Vulcan AMR Pro was also New-to-Forza back in Horizon 4, so it makes for a rather handy substitute for the Senna.

Besides, they can easily make the Senna a 20-point Playlist reward car to make up for it.

 

[Gooby]

Because it wouldn't make sense to delay one game's loyalty reward until it can be added back in the live service, if it ever gets added back at all. The Vulcan AMR Pro was also New-to-Forza back in Horizon 4, so it makes for a rather handy substitute for the Senna.

Besides, they can easily make the Senna a 20-point Playlist reward car to make up for it.

We aren't getting the AMR Pro version, just the base version. I agree the AMR Pro would make more sense since FH4 was when it was first introduced. No idea why the decided the base Vulcan, since that was introduced in 3.

 

[Digolgrin]

We aren't getting the AMR Pro version, just the base version. I agree the AMR Pro would make more sense since FH4 was when it was first introduced. No idea why the decided the base Vulcan, since that was introduced in 3.

...Even though, confusingly, the AMR Pro is apparently in FH6. What the heck is up with PG's decision-making there.

 

[Michael S YT]

Because it wouldn't make sense to delay one game's loyalty reward until it can be added back in the live service, if it ever gets added back at all. The Vulcan AMR Pro was also New-to-Forza back in Horizon 4, so it makes for a rather handy substitute for the Senna.

Besides, they can easily make the Senna a 20-point Playlist reward car to make up for it.

Its live service but that doesnt mean they couldnt hold back the loyalty reward and wait until they figured out the problem with the Senna and then give it to us when it returns. These cover cars are also supposed to be Autoshow cars and not rare cars.

 

[GTvsForza]

...Even though, confusingly, the AMR Pro is apparently in FH6. What the heck is up with PG's decision-making there.

The normal Vulcan was also seen in an old Playlist image in FH5, but we never got it. Maybe they just decided to put in 6.

 

[Michael S YT]

The normal Vulcan was also seen in an old Playlist image in FH5, but we never got it. Maybe they just decided to put in 6.

Maybe they just got more autonomy from Microsoft which is why they have been making so many positive decisions that we wanted. Microsoft finally noticing that listening to customers is profitable so they gave them more freedom on the decision side of things.

 

[nukleabomb]

I didn't expect loyalty rewards to be such a big talking talking point here.

 

[GTvsForza]

It really isn't that big of a deal... just some people here want things to be perfect...

 

[Michael S YT]

It really isn't that big of a deal... just some people here want things to be perfect...

Maybe they fear people will riot because they didnt get their loyalty reward all because the Senna isnt there yet. They want it right now but then they also have to deal with the fact that it isnt the Senna. I would much rather just wait until they can get the Senna thing sorted out.

 

[Hasse 86]

Looks like the reviews copies are finally out.

The embargo lifts on May 14, 5:00AM PT

It seems like the review embargo lifts at the same time that FH6 Early Access launches in New Zealand (If we assume that the early access starts at 00:00 May 15 in each time zone🤓).

 

[Michael S YT]

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It seems like the review embargo lifts at the same time that FH6 Early Access launches in New Zealand (If we assume that the early access starts at 00:00 May 15 in each time zone🤓).
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Shouldnt the embargo lift before all the non influencers such as me and most people get to play it? Lifting the embargo right when the public gets to play it makes no sense. It should be a few days or a week before early access. Even if it was a day before early access its still too late.

 

[Vincenzo_CVR]

I need some help, I try to predownload the game, but everytime it's struck on 68% with error code 0x803f8008.
There's a chance to fix this? i have tried Windows+R for wsreset.exe but didn't resolve (on PC)

 

[Michael S YT]

I need some help, I try to predownload the game, but everytime it's struck on 68% with error code 0x803f8008.
There's a chance to fix this? i have tried Windows+R for wsreset.exe but didn't resolve (on PC)

When this happens you need to cancel the download and install all over again. Its annoying but it is what it is. Sometimes trying to retry helps but when it doesnt all there is left is cancelling the download and doing it all over again.

 

[ykiki]

Maybe they fear people will riot because they didnt get their loyalty reward all because the Senna isnt there yet. They want it right now but then they also have to deal with the fact that it isnt the Senna. I would much rather just wait until they can get the Senna thing sorted out.

I think the simple answer (especially if it really is contract related) is that an agreement may never be reached, which would leave a permanent hole in the loyalty rewards.

While many would think of it as a small hole, to those whose FH experience is only on FH4, the hole is glaring and potentially gigantic. I can hear the complainers now wondering why others get rewarded and they don't.

The prudent thing to do (business-wise) is the sure thing: fill the hole now. From my years of contracting experience, you dont make concrete plans based on unknowns - you make contingencies on what may or may not happen and the timing of what may or may not happen.

Telling your customers that they'll get a prize at some later, unknown point down the road - while not knowing yourself if it'll happen EVER - is just asking for trouble.

 

[Michael S YT]

I think the simple answer (especially if it really is contract related) is that an agreement may never be reached, which would leave a permanent hole in the loyalty rewards.

While many would think of it as a small hole, to those whose FH experience is only on FH4, the hole is glaring and potentially gigantic. I can hear the complainers now wondering why others get rewarded and they don't.

The prudent thing to do (business-wise) is the sure thing: fill the hole now. From my years of contracting experience, you dont make concrete plans based on unknowns - you make contingencies on what may or may not happen and the timing of what may or may not happen.

Telling your customers that they'll get a prize at some later, unknown point down the road - while not knowing yourself if it'll happen EVER - is just asking for trouble.

I still think the car will return even if we dont know when so Vulcan it is!

 

[FireWheels58]

Sub pop records is the next station to be announced, gonna spoiler it because they haven't posted the tweet yet and while the list is on the blog post and the link is now there, it doesn't actually work yet. So I'm guessing they're either currently working on it or they did some stuff early again. There's no unreleased songs

Spoiler

Bully	All I Do
Deep Sea Diver	Emergency
La Luz	Close Your Eyes
Rolling Blackouts Coastal Fever	Cars In Space
Suki Waterhouse	Supersad
Tunde Adebimpe	Magnetic
Corridor	Domino
Guerilla Toss	Panglossian Mannequin
Kiwi Jr.	Cooler Returns
Man Man	Iguana
Tacocat	New World
Beach House	New Romance
CHAI	We The Female!
Nation of Language	In Your Head
Weird Nightmare	Forever Elsewhere
Yuno	Gimme Ocean
Band of Horses	Is There a Ghost
Foals	Olympic Airways
Lala Lala	This City
The Shins	Phantom Limb
SPRINTS	Descartes
Washed Out	Time to Walk Away
Pissed Jeans	The Bar Is Low

 

[Michael S YT]

Sub pop records is the next station to be announced, gonna spoiler it because they haven't posted the tweet yet and while the list is on the blog post and the link is now there, it doesn't actually work yet. So I'm guessing they're either currently working on it or they did some stuff early again. There's no unreleased songs

Spoiler

Bully	All I Do
Deep Sea Diver	Emergency
La Luz	Close Your Eyes
Rolling Blackouts Coastal Fever	Cars In Space
Suki Waterhouse	Supersad
Tunde Adebimpe	Magnetic
Corridor	Domino
Guerilla Toss	Panglossian Mannequin
Kiwi Jr.	Cooler Returns
Man Man	Iguana
Tacocat	New World
Beach House	New Romance
CHAI	We The Female!
Nation of Language	In Your Head
Weird Nightmare	Forever Elsewhere
Yuno	Gimme Ocean
Band of Horses	Is There a Ghost
Foals	Olympic Airways
Lala Lala	This City
The Shins	Phantom Limb
SPRINTS	Descartes
Washed Out	Time to Walk Away
Pissed Jeans	The Bar Is Low

None of these sound familar to me and yet I listen to the radio 24/7 ever since I was 8 years old which is 11 years ago. Thats also why I dont use the radio ingame because I have a radio in the same room where I dont just sleep but also play my games and use the internet. Was expecting them to add a lot of iconic songs too but I guess not.

 

[FireWheels58]

Still no tweet, but the Spotify playlist is now public

 

[keirsmcq]

 

[Justuxful]

Regarding the Senna, this is the first time a former cover car (or a version of it) is not part of the initial launch roster, so this is a pretty big deal imo.

Plus, I would say that the Senna has arguably become one of, if not the most associated cars with Horizon, so it’s a very glaring hole in the list.

Either way, we’ll just need to accept that it’s gone for now and hope for a return, but what makes this worse is that we have nothing even close as a substitute.

 

[FerrariF1GT]

The one thing I want out of the soundtrack is for the radio to play a new song when a song ends during a race instead of looping at a certain point like it has since FH4. I’m the odd type who prefers having the music on, but knowing that a repetitive loop was coming after a few minutes made me less interested in keeping it on, which is a shame because I generally like the songs themselves in Horizon 4/5.

Frankly I’m surprised that this aspect of the soundtrack isn’t something I hear about often online, but when I think about it more, I can understand why most people just leave the music off regardless (I guess there are more important things to racing games than the soundtrack).

 

[Michael S YT]

Regarding the Senna, this is the first time a former cover car (or a version of it) is not part of the initial launch roster, so this is a pretty big deal imo.

Plus, I would say that the Senna has arguably become one of, if not the most associated cars with Horizon, so it’s a very glaring hole in the list.

Either way, we’ll just need to accept that it’s gone for now and hope for a return, but what makes this worse is that we have nothing even close as a substitute.

The substitute is the Sabre. Its a more exclusive and rebodied Senna. That would be more worthy than any Vulcan.

 

[GTvsForza]

Regarding the Senna, this is the first time a former cover car (or a version of it) is not part of the initial launch roster, so this is a pretty big deal imo.

Plus, I would say that the Senna has arguably become one of, if not the most associated cars with Horizon, so it’s a very glaring hole in the list.

Either way, we’ll just need to accept that it’s gone for now and hope for a return, but what makes this worse is that we have nothing even close as a substitute.

I mean, the old Land Rover was also on the FH4 cover. But, that's not really any better than the Vulcan.