FRL~ToCA11~GTP #1~ CHAMPIONS: Ninners (RPM-ECM), AMD87 (Alfa) Team SYM (Nissan)! FINAL TABLES UP!Open 

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Yeah, for the sake of sportsmanship, I think that Mazda needs an LSD. I drove it pre-season and it was awful.

Debateable, considering post-1.09 pace shown last night...
 
Debateable, considering post-1.09 pace shown last night...
Straight line is the only thing it has. It got dropped from the very front of the grid in R3 to the very back in 2 laps.
 
What is the highest position a Mazda has achieved so far this season?
 
What is the highest position a Mazda has achieved so far this season?
Something like 12th. I've been lucky with my 86 and got an 8th once.
 
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Last night? I got 9th.
Ah my bad that race I couldn't see 4 people for some reason as I only had 12 finishers.

The other 2 I couldn't see Matheus.
 
Ah my bad that race I couldn't see 4 people for some reason as I only had 12 finishers.

The other 2 I couldn't see Matheus.
Could've grabbed 7th, but got held up and a couple of cars made up 6/7 cars lengths with their straight line pace.
 
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Straight line is the only thing it has. It got dropped from the very front of the grid in R3 to the very back in 2 laps.

What is the highest position a Mazda has achieved so far this season?

6th place with Matheus in R1 after he spent the whole race fighting me for 4th... he actually passed me on the penultimate lap but a mistake in S2 on final lap dropped him behind Lancer and me
 
Math has a green Lexus.
 
Hi there. Are you full of drivers here? Or need a lil' rookie in da place?
 
hsv
All I want to see in future is some orderly racing, not 15 lap shove-fests. Last season, I got myself into trouble at times, because i'd seen those considered to be the best putting on some rough moves at times. Nobody batted an eyelid at them. I ended up following their moves because I found there was no other way to get good results.

This season, I came back with a new attitude, to not get into trouble. This season made me realise that having a controlled and clean driving style literally gets you swamped.

It all boils down to this:
The driving styles evident in ToCA, and the inconsistent stewarding, make it really difficult (for rookies and experienced drivers, but more so newcomers) to judge what's acceptable, what you'll get away with, and what'll get you a penalty.

That's why I want a huge clampdown. Drivers need to know the limits.

Clean driving gets you everywhere, all the past champions have been the cleanest drivers in here (at that moment in time), and they won. I didn't race DK or Sumo in season 1,2 and 3, but from racing them in season 4 I can tell you that they were clean and respectful, and you don't win championships by punting people out of the way.

Season 4- Dax won. He moaned a lot yea, but he was clean and had some sublime racecraft. Also remember that season 4 had no ABS, and if they managed to avoid contact back then without ABS, then I don't know how you lot mess it up with ABS.

Season 5,6,7 Spurgy. Is there any explanation needed? I don't ever recall him taking someone out/hitting them to get past. 3 championships with clean driving, he's obviously getting swamped.

Season 8 Smuffy. One of the few guys in season 6 and 7 who could actually race spurgy. There were a few others (they know who they are), but smuffy was the best of the rest when spurgy left. I've raced smuffy in indycar, and I can tell you know he was bloody fast! Not only fast, but clean and respectful, giving you room if you made a move and you always knew you could battle him in any series without being taken out.

Season 9 Yeratel. One of the other guys who could race spurgy and beat him on occasions. Another extremely fast driver who also understood that racing clean gets you respect. It also means other drivers will race cleanly with you. Quite a few successful seasons in WSC with heavy damage also shows he knows how to race cleanly. He was also a steward with me and carb in season 10, and he was probably the most active steward alongside furi, discussing everything a few times over to make sure they got it right. I've just read through the old stewarding convo, your name appears a few times :rolleyes:

Season 10. Joe. Possibly the fastest guy on a pad that I've raced, and never have I seen him do dirty. Ever. He is probably the guy on here who I've done the most races with, and he is the role model for a clean drivers. Bide's his time, waits for an opportunity (something a few of you could learn about), then makes a clean move. If you have ever had contact with him, it's because you have turned into him, because he doesn't divebomb/tap people/nudge them wide to gain places. He makes a move when he knows he can get past you cleanly, ie alongside on the straight.

There are many others who have also won (teams championships) that also race like these guys (Neljack for Venom and DBC and carb for DBC , Snowcrash for SYM, even furi at times :sly: ).

So these guys all got swamped? They were all clean and controlled, and far less aggressive than some of you out there this season. You know what else all of the aforementioned had? Respect. They all respected each other and the other drivers on track. This meant you knew you could go side by side with all of them, and they wouldn't punt you wide or push you onto the grass. You know how they got this respect? Racing cleanly. Also keeping quiet in the threads helped, all bar dax and furi are often very silent in the series threads, not complaining about other drivers and stewarding. It shows that they did their talking on the track, not in here or in little PM's complaining about drivers X or stewarding decision Y. You say you were copying what the best did? I don't ever recall any good/fast/clean driver cut turn 2 at Silverstone, no idea who you were following with that one.
 
Certainly! It's just some people (this isn't directed at you Scania) are willing to give but not willing to take.
That's cause we are all jason Plato and I claim my £5
 
Also remember that season 4 had no ABS, and if they managed to avoid contact back then without ABS, then I don't know how you lot mess it up with ABS.
I'm looking at you, AMD ;)
 
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Regarding GKM's post regarding respect among drivers, take a look at my overtake on Furi in R3 L1 in the long right-hander in S2... that switchback would've most probably have ended with some paint traded or worse in the next corner otherwise...
 
you mean when you fed me off onto the grass? yeah i remember that
No, I meant when you rammed me up the back overtook then we both slid of the track because of the ridiculous speed you were trying to go through T1 at, then do exactly the same thing a few laps later.
 
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Regarding GKM's post regarding respect among drivers, take a look at my overtake on Furi in R3 L1 in the long right-hander in S2... that switchback would've most probably have ended with some paint traded or worse in the next corner otherwise...

Great move that, capitalized fully on the Nissans RWD nimbleness. Also I did similar to Panoz in R1 or R2 there.

Okk, general word here. And firstly this is not directed at anyone in particular. For me last night was frustrating because 1: on a personal note, I was way off pace. 2: People say about me braking early, but I can''t get car turned in, and I would rather not run over someone because of it. Then when in my view if someone comes barreling in, they know i'm going off because of my bad understeer... (and Yera, seem your PM, and i'll agree with it in all honesty).

Oh and with regards to @hsv - yes last season quite frankly half the grid wanted to shred your rear bumper off, but i've seen improvement this season. And I only saw at the hairpin in middle of track in R2, but I just saw over steery RWD skittles. Anyway had one detailed report, i'll sort it.

Oh and we always seem to have one of "these" weekends in ToCA once a season.
 
It doesn't help that Apricot Hill is a fairly difficult to overtake circuit. Myself and @Andil have the ability to look into a crystal ball and see trouble. We were right :P

I mean, it wasn't the best circuit for the Renault - and it's a track I don't know too well but still, I did my best to make sure I kept clean with people..
 
It doesn't help that Apricot Hill is a fairly difficult to overtake circuit. Myself and @Andil have the ability to look into a crystal ball and see trouble. We were right :p

I mean, it wasn't the best circuit for the Renault - and it's a track I don't know too well but still, I did my best to make sure I kept clean with people..

And your cars a bit too fast on the straights.
 
And your cars a bit too fast on the straights.

But that's what its famous for... being the fastest car on the straights in TOCA! The Honda and Fords however are stronger in the corners! I made it easy for you guys to get through really saying the tyres had gone off about 30% into the race...
 
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