Oh bollucks. I even remember thinking "water" and intending to write oxygen and hydrogen.No comment
There's 6 states of matter - solid, liquid, gas, plasma, Fermionic Condensate and Bose-Einstein Condensate.
However, fire isn't matter - it's energy (specifically heat and light energy). Fire itself has no mass, though may contain burning particles which do and a small amount of matter in a plasma state.
What's a far trickier question is that, if there are 7 characteristics of life (Excretion [carbon dioxide], Growth, Movement, Nutrition [fuel, oxygen], Reproduction, Respiration, Sensitivity) and fire fits all of them, why isn't fire considered living?
What's a far trickier question is that, if there are 7 characteristics of life (Excretion [carbon dioxide], Growth, Movement, Nutrition [fuel, oxygen], Reproduction, Respiration, Sensitivity) and fire fits all of them, why isn't fire considered living?
You only see fire when fuel, oxygen and a spark interact. Get too far from the fuel and there's none to react with. Get too close to the fuel and there's no oxygen to react with. So you end up with a minimum and a maximum boundary for fire. The spark part is self-sustaining within this flame region - which is always changing as fuel and oxygen are consumed or added to the reaction, leading to the dancing effect of flames and the nature of how they spread.
What's a far trickier question is that, if there are 7 characteristics of life (Excretion [carbon dioxide], Growth, Movement, Nutrition [fuel, oxygen], Reproduction, Respiration, Sensitivity) and fire fits all of them, why isn't fire considered living?
That makes perfect sense to me, cheers. As for the living part, they don't really fit sensitivity do they? The fire has never evolved to be able to burn in environments where it normally can't, or anything like that.
Here's a question, what's Famine's IQ?You seem to know a lot on a hell of a lot of subjects.
Really? I figured he was the modern day, spawn of Einstein.I have a hunch that he's Steven Hawking in disguise! 💡
I have a hunch that he's Steven Hawking in disguise! 💡
I have a hunch that he's Steven Hawking in disguise! 💡
Probably because its not a living thing.![]()
That makes perfect sense to me, cheers. As for the living part, they don't really fit sensitivity do they? The fire has never evolved to be able to burn in environments where it normally can't, or anything like that.
Here's a question, what's Famine's IQ?You seem to know a lot on a hell of a lot of subjects.
He's a quantum anomaly.
I wouldn't consider fire a truly living being because it's a phenomena, a reaction between two things that changes according to the environment. I wouldn't consider humans as living either if they were spawned from the collision of two rocks, or because oxygen, a flammable substance and a spark were mixed. Also, it's like water flowing or pressurized air - just like air follows the path of least resistance and water flows to whatever direction gravity dictates, fire burns whatever is flammable around it, assuming enough oxygen is available...
What's a far trickier question is that, if there are 7 characteristics of life (Excretion [carbon dioxide], Growth, Movement, Nutrition [fuel, oxygen], Reproduction, Respiration, Sensitivity) and fire fits all of them, why isn't fire considered living?
What's a far trickier question is that, if there are 7 characteristics of life (Excretion [carbon dioxide], Growth, Movement, Nutrition [fuel, oxygen], Reproduction, Respiration, Sensitivity) and fire fits all of them, why isn't fire considered living?
That's because I have a low attention span
I think it is because Fire doesnt have cells, like all other living creatures
Viruses don't have cells.
We all know fire isn't alive. Just 'cos. But not many of us have a valid scientific explanation behind the "'cos".
Sensitivity really applies to whether something changes in response to external stimuli. Fire certainly does that - blow and it flickers. It does funky things in zero or microgravity.
That's because I have a low attention span and like information. I pick up all sorts of crap on all sorts of things, but I don't really go very deep on much. Except molecular biology
I haven't had my IQ properly measured in ages, but the last IQ test I did a couple of years ago came out at 174 - which was about the same as when it was professionally measured. But a high (or low) IQ isn't really a measure of smarts. Most IQ tests are based on puzzle solving and spatial orientation which only really reveal your ability to learn things, rather than what you know. I might rate higher for IQ than a professor of botany who can speak 8 languages (including Klingon) but I probably know less than they do.
Nevertheless, I am a pub quiz gun-for-hire
Most living things are natural phenomena - they just require a larger set of conditions...
So what kinds of things are alive but not made of matter?
I haven't had my IQ properly measured in ages, but the last IQ test I did a couple of years ago came out at 174 - which was about the same as when it was professionally measured.
So it's because the characteristics were thought of by humans and are ultimately flawed so there have to be exceptions.
Life doesn't have to be made of matter. E-life (automata grown on a computer) can exhibit the same kind of behavior as actual life. So what if they're artificial? Who's to say that the entire universe isn't just a simulation run on a quantum computer?
I don't consider automatas life, since as the name implies: they're automated. They react without thinking based on a clear set of rules - even "thinking" automatas are predictable assuming you have the code, since they evaluate each variable according to a set of preset definitions to reach a logical (to them) solution. Even when the weight of a variable is dynamic, it's not real "thought". You could argue that a human is predictable, but there is still the "free thought" and random decisions that a human (or other creature) may take. A mechanism ruled by a defined set of base rules (because even learning automatas need a few base rules) will never be considered a living thing in my eyes.
If we define "life" based on our experiences on this planet, it would seem that, to be alive, you must be made of matter. We know carbon-based need not be the case, but certainly there has to be "something" there...I'm not even aware of "being made of matter" as a prerequisite for life.
You and I are on same short busDamnit. My wiener just shrank six inches. I've got IQ envy. I only test between 135 and 140.
I don't consider automatas life, since as the name implies: they're automated. They react without thinking based on a clear set of rules - even "thinking" automatas are predictable assuming you have the code, since they evaluate each variable according to a set of preset definitions to reach a logical (to them) solution. Even when the weight of a variable is dynamic, it's not real "thought". You could argue that a human is predictable, but there is still the "free thought" and random decisions that a human (or other creature) may take. A mechanism ruled by a defined set of base rules (because even learning automatas need a few base rules) will never be considered a living thing in my eyes.