Getting "pwn3d" on eBay

[Delirious]

billyspeares won it for 470 pounds...should someone tell him?

 

[Raghavan]

So you don't find this link deceptive at all? That he put the actual description for the item being sold carefully folded within a mass of text describing every technical detail of the item NOT being sold?

It's like telling someone to compete in a competition that benefits you where the 1st place price is a Toyota... and then giving the winner a Toy Yoda.

What if someone offered you 50 dollars for something and then handed you monopoly money?

What if you signed a contract to do work for someone - to be paid on Dec 10 '05. You do the work, but they refuse to pay you until Dec 10 2205.

No, i don't, and all those examples are not about what happened here. Here, the seller openly says it's for the box only, and not the console. Granted, it wasn't too easy to read, but what's the rush? If youre going to spend so much money on it, then you better read everything completely before bidding. That's eBay's policy too. A couple of empty PSP boxes have been sold for over 200 USD. It's totally legit, and eBay and the courts won't do a thing.
The buyer is in for his stupidity now. He either pays a truckload of money and gets a useless box, or he doesn't pay and gets screwed by the seller and eBay.

 

[McLaren]

Why? It's fair play. The seller put that the auction was for the box only. I don't feel sorry at all for the dumbass who bought it, as he should've read the description more carefually.

However, its a scam.

Notice the long paragraph.

The seller is trying to bore the buyer by making a long description and then placing at the bottom hoping he's bored the buyer so he won't read it all, it's just a box in normal font.

I doubt anything will happen if he doesn't pay. A team will look over the description and obviously notice the intention was to scam people.
Though it does teach to read everything.

Anyways, this is worse than the $611 box.

 

[Dave A]

He knows, he's not paid and e-bay will probably contact the seller regarding the scam. Unfortunately not all scams like this get picked up on.

 

[Delirious]

470 pounds = 815 dollars for anyone who is wondering

I am still asking if anyone should contact the winner...

 

[Dave A]

No, i don't, and all those examples are not about what happened here. Here, the seller openly says it's for the box only, and not the console. Granted, it wasn't too easy to read, but what's the rush? If youre going to spend so much money on it, then you better read everything completely before bidding. That's eBay's policy too. A couple of empty PSP boxes have been sold for over 200 USD. It's totally legit, and eBay and the courts won't do a thing.
The buyer is in for his stupidity now. He either pays a truckload of money and gets a useless box, or he doesn't pay and gets screwed by the seller and eBay.

It's a blatant scam, there are laws that cover advertisements designed especially for cases like this. Your advert has to be clear and direct about what you are selling, in this case, the item description had nothing to do with what was being sold until a few words right near the end, that is not clear, at least not clear enough, legally the seller has no right to demand payment in this case. Theres no if's or but's about it, it's a scam. What danoff said imo perfectly describes the methods that this person has used in his advert, he's misslead the person into a false conclusion that he's getting an XB360. That's illegal.

 

[VIPFREAK]

While these are kind of funny... I really do question the person behind it as well as eGay's responsibility. These people are lower than ticket scalpers and should be looked into, description or not.

 

[Delirious]

I just sent the seller an e-mail informing him of the "text" he may not have read in the description. I chose to hide my e-mail address so I won't get a response back.

 

[Plague.Ghost]

Funny how people all come rushing to the aid of the ignorant.

 

[VIPFREAK]

Funny how people all come rushing to the aid of the ignorant.

He's still a dumbass but this seller is so damn blatently trying to prey on a current trend. I don't see him lasting long as a seller if he keeps doing that.

 

[Sharky.]

PLEASE PAY WITHIN 24 HOURS OF WINNING BID

Trying to take the money and run, obviously... 👎

 

[ND4SPD]

Oh my god! PWNED!

 

[Sharky.]

http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=8241041439

Look at last retracted bid (and username).

 

[Raghavan]

Hmm, i guess dumbass doesn't have to pay afterall.

 

[Ev0]

Weird, there's a cute girl on my floor in res named Caitlin...

 

[somebody]

Actually, it doesn't matter what the long description says. At the top of the page is the description box which clearly states...

Item Specifics - Video Game Systems
Platform: Microsoft Xbox
Bundled Items: Accessories, Game(s)
Condition: New
Format: PAL (UK Standard)

So I'd be inclined to insist he sends what was advertised, namely an XBox with accessories and games. Although he doesn't specify that it a a 360, just an XBox.

 

[Dave A]

Funny how people all come rushing to the aid of the ignorant.

It's not about helping stupid people, although in this instance (look at the pos above) the buyer hasn't been completely stupid) It's about not letting the assholes win.

 

[kikie]

Don't know what happened.
The link doesn't work for me.

 

[Dave A]

E-bay have removed the ad.

 

[Danoff]

Ha!

Sounds evil. Yup. Just some moron gettin' screwed by someone tryin' to make a buck.

I told y'all money's the root of all evil.

Money is an object. It is like a rock or a shoe. It can do nothing - be the root of nothing - cause or have responsibility for nothing. Human beings are the root of all evil (and good). Don't try to shove responsibility for this awful act onto money. The responsibility belongs solely to this theif.

Not to be negative, but the guy had it coming if he didn't read the details. Always notice the fine print people.

I guess you don't read my post. This is fraud (legally). The buyer could sue the seller. YOU should read the fine print - of the law. If you think this was legit, when you end up in jail or on the business end of huge punitive damages for some kind of immoral crap like this, I'll be the one saying "he had it coming".

 

[Danoff]

No, i don't, and all those examples are not about what happened here.

[sarcasm] Really? I thought they were. That's why I posted those examples, because I thought for sure they were exactly what happened here [/sarcasm]

Here, the seller openly says it's for the box only, and not the console.

Wrong post dude, this is about the sale of a picture in place of an X-Box. The box thing was something else entirely and was no where near as bad as this.

Granted, it wasn't too easy to read, but what's the rush? If youre going to spend so much money on it, then you better read everything completely before bidding.

[sarcasm] Oh I see. So when you go to the store and pick up an XBox from Best Buy you read the entire box, top sides and bottom for that little asterix in 2 point font that says what's actually in the box right? That way when you get home and open it expecting to play and you get a dead chicken instead of an XBox, you know why. I guess that's just fair. Whatever crap people can pull to try to weasel money out of others is simply permissible. [/sarcasm]

This is a scam, plane and simple. It's fraud and it is punishable by a civil lawsuit. No jury would let the seller off, and I doubt he could find a lawyer to waste time on his case.

 

[Famine]

Here, the seller openly says it's for the box only, and not the console.

Wrong post dude, this is about the sale of a picture in place of an X-Box. The box thing was something else entirely and was no where near as bad as this.

Which, of course, means Raghavan didn't read the description through fully either...

Irony? I think so.

 

[Kylehnat]

^true, it was for a picture, not the box. I guess that old scam was played out with the first Xbox

 

[GilesGuthrie]

Lesson #1 in ebay trading for Buyers: Don't try to buy the "latest greatest" thing. You're asking to get ripped off.

 

[Raghavan]

[sarcasm] Really? I thought they were. That's why I posted those examples, because I thought for sure they were exactly what happened here [/sarcasm]
No, i'm saying that in your Toy Yoda example, you're being told that you're getting a Toyota, but you get a Toy Yoda. Here, at least the buyer is telling you that you're getting only a box. I don't know why the seller wrote all that BS in the description, but it says clearly that it's only for the box.

Wrong post dude, this is about the sale of a picture in place of an X-Box. The box thing was something else entirely and was no where near as bad as this.
What?

[sarcasm] Oh I see. So when you go to the store and pick up an XBox from Best Buy you read the entire box, top sides and bottom for that little asterix in 2 point font that says what's actually in the box right? That way when you get home and open it expecting to play and you get a dead chicken instead of an XBox, you know why. I guess that's just fair. Whatever crap people can pull to try to weasel money out of others is simply permissible. [/sarcasm]
Actually, i do. $400 aint pocket change, so i'll make sure that i read everything there is to read on the box. And if i bought it from an actual store, I ask if i can open up the box to make sure everything's inside too. If they don't, and i find a dead chicken inside, i'd return the thing, that's it. Too bad eBay doesn't have a returning policy unless something's sold not as advertised, but then again, that's why i don't buy from eBay.
This is a scam, plane and simple. It's fraud and it is punishable by a civil lawsuit. No jury would let the seller off, and I doubt he could find a lawyer to waste time on his case.

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[Danoff]

Actually, i do. $400 aint pocket change, so i'll make sure that i read everything there is to read on the box. And if i bought it from an actual store, I ask if i can open up the box to make sure everything's inside too. If they don't, and i find a dead chicken inside, i'd return the thing, that's it. Too bad eBay doesn't have a returning policy unless something's sold not as advertised, but then again, that's why i don't buy from eBay.

I don't think you understand US law, what it does, and why it must.

 

[Famine]

Raghavan - answer please:

Who is to "blame" when a magician performs a sleight of hand trick? The magician for deliberately concealing his actions to confuse the audience member, or the audience member for being confused?