Gr.1, Gr.2, Gr.3, Gr.4, Gr.B - BoP Tables

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  1. DesertPenguin

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    And I was using pen and paper to write it down this whole time!
     
  2. jagenigma

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    Has there been any changes to BOP this past update?
     
  3. Tassie_tiger

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    Yep, there has been.

    Sorry for the lack of updates.
    Real life dramas getting in the way.

    I'll do some research on which cars have changed, get the new numbers, and then try to find some time/enthusiasm to update the spreadsheet. :p
     
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  4. Tassie_tiger

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    Spreadsheet almost fully updated.
    I just need some Gr.2 numbers from Sport Mode.
    But Groups 1, 3, and 4 are done.


    Update (since 1.15) is as follows:

    Gr.1 - All Cars Updated Except:
    Peugeot 908
    Toyota TS030
    Gr.1 - 4 Cars Added:
    Audi VGT
    Jaguar XJR-9 '88
    Mercedes Sauber C9 '89
    Nissan R92CP '92


    Gr.3 - Cars Updated:
    Aston V12
    Audi R8
    BMW Z4
    Chevy C7
    Dodge Viper
    Ferrari 458
    Honda NSX
    Lexus RC-F '16 and '17
    Mazda Atenza
    Merc AMG GT3
    Nissan GT-R
    Peugeot RCZ and VGT
    Porsche 911
    Toyota FT-1
    Gr.3 - 1 Car Added:
    Toyota Gazoo Supra Racing Concept '18


    Gr.4 - Cars Updated:
    Alfa 4C
    Audi TT
    BMW M4
    Chevy C7
    Lexus RC-F
    Mazda Atenza
    Merc SLS
    Porsche Cayman
    Renault Megane
    Toyota 86
    Gr.4 - 1 Car Added:
    Renault Sport Megane Trophy '11


    *Edit*
    Gr.2 updated with official Sport Mode numbers.
    No change to any car.
     
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  5. vvise

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    @Tassie_tiger Any chance these will get updated for the latest BOP changes? It's been a little while, I wonder if you're still maintaining this project?
     
  6. Mirror_man

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    It seems to have been forgotten.. since 24June... close to 1,5 monthes ago...
     
  7. Tassie_tiger

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    Yep, still maintaining the spreadsheet.

    It was updated after 1.21 landed.
    1.22 turned out to be 1.23, and it came with only had a handful of changes for each category last week.
    I anticipated a larger number of cars being altered with a new FIA Season and the newly added cars, so I've been waiting for that.
    Which was yesterday. :)

    I'll go through the cars and try to update during the day today. :tup:
     
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  8. Mirror_man

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    Awsome!:bowdown:
     
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  9. daan

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    It looks like you're giving yourself too much work with all the separate, sorted tables. Google sheets allows us to sort by any column we wish.

    Surely giving us just the one table per sheet, and naming the columns, and allowing us to sort it ourselves, would be easier for you?

    Anyway, thanks for the work you're doing on this. :tup:
     
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  10. cleanLX

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    for anyone that wants to track it themselves... I have attached a spreadsheet "up to date" to P1.24;
    Gr.1 not included, just GR.2, Gr.3 and Gr.4...


    and here is the history;

    08/07/2018 Update Notice - v1.24
    Gr.3 Class

    ・Alfa Romeo 4C Gr.3 [Power Ratio : 106% > 105%]
    ・BMW M6 GT3 M Power Livery '16 [Power Ratio : 96% > 95%]
    ・BMW M6 GT3 (Walkenhorst Motorsport) '16 [Power Ratio : 96% > 95%]
    ・BMW Z4 GT3 '11 [Power Ratio : 105% > 104%]
    ・Chevrolet Corvette C7 Gr.3 [Power Ratio : 103% > 102%]
    ・Dodge Viper SRT GT3-R '15 [Power Ratio : 83% > 82%]
    ・Ford Mustang Gr.3 [Power Ratio : 109% > 108%]
    ・Ford Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car [Power Ratio : 92% > 91%]
    ・Jaguar F-type Gr.3 [Power Ratio : 101% > 102%]
    ・Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-AMG GT3 (AMG-Team HTP-Motorsport) '16 [Power Ratio : 91% > 92%]
    ・Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Final Edition Gr.3 [Power Ratio : 108% > 107%]
    ・Porsche 911 RSR (991) '17 [Power Ratio : 103% > 104%]
    ・Renault Sport R.S.01 GT3 '16 [Power Ratio : 100% > 99%]
    ・Toyota Toyota FT-1 Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.3) [Weight Reduction Ratio : 103% > 102%]
    Gr.4 Class
    ・Audi TT Cup '16 [Power Ratio : 103% > 104%]
    ・Citroën GT by Citroën Gr.4 [Power Ratio : 94% > 93%] [Weight Reduction Ratio : 111% > 112%]
    ・Dodge Viper Gr.4 [Power Ratio : 93% > 92%]
    ・Ferrari 458 Italia Gr.4 [Power Ratio : 100% > 99%]
    ・honda NSX Gr.4 [Weight Reduction Ratio : 107% > 108%]
    ・Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Gr.4 [Weight Reduction Ratio : 106% > 105%]
    ・Peugeot RCZ Gr.4 [Power Ratio : 109% > 110%]
    ・Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport '16 [Weight Reduction Ratio : 110% > 109%]
    ・Renault Sport Mégane Trophy [Weight Reduction Ratio : 113% > 115%]

    07/31/2018 Update Notice - v1.23
    Gr.1 Class

    Audi R18 TDI (Audi Sport Team Joest) [Power Ratio : 108% > 107%]
    Audi R18 TDI (Le Mans 2011) [Power Ratio : 108% > 107%]
    Bugatti Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.1) [Power Ratio : 108% > 107%]
    Mazda 787B '71 [Power Ratio : 96%] [Weight Reduction Ratio : 100%]
    Gr.3 Class
    Ferrari 458 Italia GT3 [Power Ratio : 101% > 100%]
    Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car [Power Ratio : 92%] [Weight Reduction Ratio : 114%]
    Lamborghini Huracán GT3 [Weight Reduction Ratio : 108% > 107%]
    GT-R NISMO GT3 N24 Schulze Motorsport [Power Ratio : 110% > 109%]
    Peugeot RCZ Gr.3 [Weight Reduction Ratio : 110% > 109%]
    Gr.4 Class
    Audi TT Cup '16 [Power Ratio : 102% > 103%]
    GT by Citroën Gr.4 [Weight Reduction Ratio : 110% > 111%]
    McLaren 650S Gr.4 [Weight Reduction Ratio : 111% > 110%]
    Peugeot RCZ Gr.4 [Power Ratio : 108% > 109%]
    Renault Sport Mégane Trophy '11 [Weight Reduction Ratio : 111% > 113%]

    04/09/2018 Update Notice - v1.19
    Gr.1 Class
    Dodge SRT Tomahawk Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.1) [Power Ratio : 85% > 87%]
    Jaguar XJR-9 '88 [Power Ratio : 88%]
    McLaren Ultimate Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.1) [Power Ratio : 90% > 87%]
    Mercedes-Benz Sauber Mercedes C9 '89 [Power Ratio : 86%]
    Nissan R92CP '92 [Power Ratio : 87%]
    Peugeot L750R HYbrid Vision Gran Turismo, 2017 [Power Ratio : 96% > 88%]
    Gr.3 Class
    Audi R8 LMS (Audi Sport Team WRT) '15 [Power Ratio : 91% > 92%]
    Honda NSX Gr.3 [Power Ratio : 96% > 97%]
    Mazda Atenza Gr.3 [Power Ratio : 104% > 105%]
    Mercedes-AMG GT3 (AMG-Team HTP-Motorsport) '16 [Power Ratio : 92% > 91%]
    Peugeot RCZ Gr.3 [Power Ratio : 105% > 106%]
    Porsche 911 RSR (991) '17 [Power Ratio : 104% > 103%]
    Toyota FT-1 Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.3) [Power Ratio : 101% > 100%]
    Gr.4 Class
    Audi TT Cup '16 [Power Ratio : 101% > 102%]
    Lexus RC F Gr.4 [Power Ratio : 100% > 99%]
    Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport '16 [Power Ratio : 93% > 94%]
    Renault Sport Mégane Trophy '11 [Power Ratio : 87%] [Weight Reduction Ratio : 111%]
    Toyota 86 Gr.4 [Power Ratio : 99% > 98%]

    04/09/2018 Update Notice - v1.17
    Gr.1

    Audi Vision Gran Turismo [Power Ratio : 85%] [Weight Reduction Ratio : 80%]
    Gr.3
    Chevrolet Corvette C7 Gr.3 [Power Ratio : 104% > 103%]
    Dodge Viper SRT GT3-R '15 [Power Ratio : 84% > 83%]
    Lexus RC F GT3 prototype (Emil Frey Racing) '16 [Power Ratio : 108% > 107%]
    Lexus RC F GT3 (Emil Frey Racing) '17 [Power Ratio : 108% > 107%]
    Nissan GT-R GT-R NISMO GT3 N24 Schulze Motorsport '13 [Power Ratio : 109% > 110%]
    Volkswagen GTI Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.3) [Weight Reduction Ratio : 104% > 103%]
    Gr.4
    Alfa Romeo 4C Gr.4 [Power Ratio : 103% > 102%]
    BMW M4 Gr.4 [Power Ratio : 98% > 99%]
    Lexus RC F Gr.4 [Weight Reduction Ratio : 102% > 103%]
    Mazda Atenza Gr.4 [Power Ratio : 105% > 104%]
    Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Gr.4 [Weight Reduction Ratio : 105% > 106%]
    Renault Sport Mégane Gr.4 [Power Ratio : 99% > 100%]
    Toyota 86 Gr.4 [Power Ratio : 100% > 99%]

    03/29/2018 Update Notice - v1.15
    Gr.3

    BMW M6 GT3 M Power Livery '16 [Power : 98% > 96%]
    BMW M6 GT3 (Walkenhorst Motorsport) '16 [Power : 98% > 96%]
    Chevrolet Corvette C7 Gr.3 [Power : 103% > 104%]
    Honda NSX Gr.3 [Power : 96% > 97%]
    Lamborghini Huracán GT3 '15 [Power : 94% > 95%]
    Lexus RC F GT3 (Emil Frey Racing) '17 [Power : 108%] [Weight : 102%]
    Mercedes-AMG GT3 (AMG-Team HTP-Motorsport) '16 [Power : 93% > 92%]
    Subaru WRX Gr.3 [Power : 106% > 107%]
    Gr.4
    Aston Martin Vantage Gr.4 [Power : 100% > 99%] [Weight : 106% > 107%]
    Alfa Romeo 4C Gr.4 [Power : 100% > 103%] [Weight : 111% > 109%]
    Audi TT cup'16 [Power : 103% > 101%]
    BMW M4 Gr.4 [Power : 99% > 98%] [Weight : 104% > 106%]
    Bugatti Veyron Gr.4 [Power : 102% > 104%]
    Chevrolet Corvette C7 Gr.4 [Weight : 111% > 110%]
    Honda NSX Gr.4 [Power : 93% > 95%]
    Lexus RC F Gr.4 [Power : 99% > 100%]
    McLaren 650S Gr.4 [Power : 94% > 95%]
    Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Final Edition Gr.4 [Power : 99% > 100%]
    Nissan GT-R Gr.4 [Power : 96% > 97%]
    Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport '16 [Weight : 111% > 110%]
    Subaru WRX Gr.4 [Power : 98% > 99%]
    Toyota 86 Gr.4 [Weight : 105% > 104%]

    01/26/2018 Update v1.11
    Gr.3 Class

    Audi R8 LMS (Audi Sport Team WRT)'15 [Power : 92% > 91%]
    Chevrolet Corvette C7 Gr.3 [Power : 102% > 103%]
    GT by Citroen Race Car (Gr.3) [Power : 88% > 87%]
    McLaren 650S GT3 [Power : 110% > 111%]
    Lexus RC F GT3 prototype (Emil Frey Racing) [Power : 107% > 108%]
    Porsche 911 RSR (991) '17 [Power : 105% > 104%]
    Gr.4 Class
    Audi TT cup'16 [Power : 104% > 103%]
    BMW M4 Gr.4 [Power : 100% > 99%]
    Jaguar F-type Gr.4 [Weight : 107% > 106%]
    Lexus RC F Gr.4 [Power : 100% > 98%]
    McLaren 650S Gr.4 [Weight : 112% > 111%]
    Renault Sport Mégane Gr.4 [Power : 100% > 99%]
    Volkswagen Scirocco Gr.4 [Power : 92% > 91%]

    12/22/2017 Update v1.09
    Gr.3 Class

    BMW M6 GT3 '16 [Power : 97% > 98%] [Weight : 101% > 102%]
    BMW Z4 GT3 '11 [Power : 106% > 105%] [Weight : 103% > 108%]
    GT by Citroen Race Car (Gr.3) [Power : 89% > 88%] [Weight : 106% > 110%]
    Audi R8 LMS (Audi Sport Team WRT)'15 [Power : 90% > 92%] [Weight : 103% > 108%]
    Aston Martin V12 VANTAGE GT3 '12 [Power : 112% > 111%] [Weight : 105% > 104%]
    Alfa Romeo 4C Gr.3 [Power : 105% > 106%] [Weight : 100% > 105%]
    Toyota FT-1 Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.3) [Power : 100% > 101%] [Weight : 102% > 103%]
    Chevrolet Corvette C7 Gr.3 [Power : 106% > 102%] [Weight : 100% > 101%]
    Jaguar F-Type Gr.3 [Power : 102% > 101%] [Weight : 102% > 106%]
    Subaru WRX Gr.3 [Weight : 100% > 103%]
    Dodge Viper SRT GT3-R [Power : 86% > 84%] [Weight : 102% > 103%]
    Hyundai Genesis Gr.3 [Power : 111% > 113%] [Weight : 100% > 105%]
    Ferrari 458 Italia GT3 [Power : 100% > 101%] [Weight : 107% > 109%]
    Volkswagen GTI Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.3) [Power : 104% > 100%] [Weight : 100% > 104%]
    Volkswagen Beetle Gr.3 [Power : 90% > 91%] [Weight : 106% > 110%]
    Ford Mustang Gr.3 [Power : 112% > 109%]
    Peugeot RCZ Gr.3 [Power : 104% > 105%] [Weight : 102% > 110%]
    Peugeot Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.3) [Power : 96% > 100%] [Weight : 100% > 106%]
    Honda NSX Gr.3 [Power : 100% > 96%] [Weight : 100% > 102%]
    Porsche 911 RSR (991) '17 [Weight : 103% > 106%]
    McLaren 650S GT3 [Power : 108% > 110%] [Weight : 102% > 107%]
    Mazda Atenza Gr.3 [Power : 105% > 104%] [Weight : 102% > 103%]
    Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-AMG GT3 (AMG-Team HTP-Motorsport) [Power : 95% > 93%]
    Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG GT3 [Power : 105% > 103%]
    Lamborghini Huracán GT3 '15 [Power : 95% > 94%] [Weight : 106% > 108%]
    Renault Sport R.S.01 GT3 '16 [Power : 101% > 100%] [Weight : 106% > 109%]
    Lexus RC F GT3 prototype (Emil Frey Racing) [Power : 101% > 102%] [Weight : 106% > 107%]
    Gr.4 Class
    BMW M4 Gr.4 [Weight : 107% > 104%]
    GT by Citroën Gr.4 [Power : 90% > 94%]
    Audi TT cup'16 [Power : 106% > 104%]
    Aston Martin Vantage Gr.4 [Power : 99% > 100%]
    Alfa Romeo 4C Gr.4 [Weight : 104% > 111%]
    Chevrolet Corvette C7 Gr.4 [Weight : 108% > 111%]
    Jaguar F-type Gr.4 [Power : 96% > 100%] [Weight : 103% > 107%]
    Dodge Viper Gr.4 [Power : 92% > 93%]
    Toyota TOYOTA 86 Gr.4 [Power : 99% > 100%]
    Ferrari 458 Italia Gr.4 [Weight : 108% > 107%]
    Volkswagen Scirocco Gr.4 [Power : 97% > 92%]
    Bugatti Veyron Gr.4 [Power : 99% > 102%]
    Peugeot RCZ Gr.4 [Power : 110% > 108%]
    Honda NSX Gr.4 [Weight : 109% > 107%]
    Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport [Power : 91% > 93%] [Weight : 108% > 111%]
    McLaren 650S Gr.4 [Power : 92% > 94%] [Weight : 110% > 112%]
    Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Gr.4 [Power : 96% > 97%] [Weight : 110% > 105%]
    Lamborghini Huracán Gr.4 [Power : 98% > 99%] [Weight : 108% > 103%]
    Renault Sport Mégane Gr.4 [Power : 105% > 100%]
    Lexus RC F Gr.4 [Power : 100% > 98%] [Weight : 105% > 102%]
    Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Final Edition Gr.4 [Power : 98% > 99%] [Weight : 102% > 101%]
    Nissan GT-R Gr.4 [Weight : 110% > 105%]

    11/03/2017 Update v1.05
    Gr.3 Class

    Mercedes AMG GT3 (AMG-Team HTP-Motorsport) '16 [Power : 94% > 95%]
    Audi R8 LMS (Audi Sport Team WRT) '15 [Power : 90% > 91%]
    Lamborghini Huracan GT3 '15 [Power : 94% > 95%]
    Hyundai Genesis Gr.3 [Power : 112% > 111%]
    Gr.4 Class
    Nissan GT-R Gr.4 [Power : 97% > 95%] [Weight : 110% > 111%]
    Volkswagen Scirocco Gr.4 [Power : 100% > 97%]
    Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Final Edition Gr.4 [Power : 97% > 98%]
     

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  11. vvise

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    @cleanLX where'd you get all this. I had such a hard time tracking this info down.

    @Tassie_tiger thank you for the support! The spreadsheet is very useful!
     
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  12. cleanLX

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    @vvise I started tracking upon release of the game, and just continue to copy paste from update notifications into a word . doc.
    When I got the game, the first thing I did was create a spread sheet to be able to sort cars by weight and hp/lbs... to help determine who looked good.
    When the BoP's hit, i just started tracking...
    At one point I was tracking all BoP'd revisions, but realized "the past" was just that.
    Someday, I'll fill in the HPrange and TQrange and figure out shiftpoints... just do not have the time these days.
     
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    This is GOLD! What an awesome community this is. Thank you, thank you, thank you! You are a star:bowdown:
     
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  14. Tassie_tiger

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    Spreadsheet is fully updated. :tup:

    PD have had a major overhaul with the BoP numbers.
    Not one car is unchanged.
    Literally, not one.
    No doubt the new tyre model had a lot to do with it.
    But there are many cars with adjustments that also include Max. Speed, so there is more to it than just handling changes.

    Therefore, every car in each Group has been checked and adjusted. :ouch:


    Gr.3 and Gr.4 numbers are direct from Sport Mode.

    Due to having no current Sport Mode events, and the fact they are now weekly:
    Gr.1 and Gr.2 numbers are from Open Lobby - BoP "Circuit: On", Tuning "Prohibited", and Tyres "Racing: Hard".


    The update to the spreadsheet (since 1.20) is as follows:

    Gr.1 - 1 Car Added:
    Mazda 787B '71
    Gr.1 - All Cars Updated.


    Gr.2 - All Cars Updated.


    Gr.3 - 1 Car Added:
    Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car
    Gr.3 - All Cars Updated.


    Gr.4 - All Cars Updated.


    Total number of cars per Group:
    Gr.1: 19
    Gr.2: 3
    Gr.3: 33
    Gr.4: 27

    The link for the spreadsheet is in the first post.


    Cheers, and thanks for the suggestion. :cheers:

    I'm happy to do the other tables, and TBH they take almost no extra time at all to do.

    With over 80 cars and 8 numbers for each, there's no prizes for guessing that the vast bulk of my time is consumed by continually changing cars, entering each car into an event, checking the tuning sheet and writing down the numbers, and then editing the main table in the spreadsheet. ;)
     
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  15. Mirror_man

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    Watch out for the Tiger!!! Awsome work dude! Your "CLAWS" really make a definitive carving mark! :bowdown::bowdown::cheers:
     
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  16. cleanLX

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    oh, forgot to mention, all the TQ values on my sheet have come from @Tassie_tiger
     
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  17. Tassie_tiger

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    A quick heads-up to say that the BoP spreadsheet is fully updated for v1.29. :tup:
    All cars in each Group have been checked and adjusted.

    Gr.2, Gr.3, and Gr.4 numbers are direct from Sport Mode.

    Due to having no current Sport Mode events, and the fact they are now weekly:
    Gr.1 and Gr.B numbers are from Online Lobby - BoP "Circuit: On", Tuning "Prohibited", and Tyres "Racing: Hard".
    (Method cross-referenced with Sport Mode numbers and proven to be accurate)


    The main changes to the spreadsheet (since v1.24) are as follows:

    Gr.2 - 3 Cars Added:
    Honda EPSON NSX ’08
    Lexus PETRONAS TOM'S SC430 ’08
    Nissan XANAVI NISMO GT-R ’08


    Gr.3 - 1 Car Added:
    BMW M3 GT (BMW Motorsport) '11


    Gr.B - New sheet - 10 cars added.


    Sheets for v1.24 archived.


    Total number of cars per Group:

    Gr.1: 19
    Gr.2: 6
    Gr.3: 34
    Gr.4: 27
    Gr.B: 10


    The link for the spreadsheet is in the first post. :cheers:
     
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  18. Mirror_man

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    Good work dude! :) Awesome! :)
     
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  19. Kano Manel

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    Great job. Super helpful. People like you make this community even better.
     
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  20. Tassie_tiger

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    A quick heads-up for those interested.
    The BoP spreadsheet is updated to reflect the Gr.3 BoP changes in v1.32. :tup:

    50% of the Gr.3 cars have had a BoP change so it was worth the update.
    The Gr.3 v1.29 sheet has been archived.

    Gr.4 only required the Lambo. adjusted as per the v1.31 change.

    Gr.1, Gr.2, and Gr.B remain the same.

    No other changes were needed.


    As usual, the link for the spreadsheet is in the first post. :cheers:
     
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    Where have you been all my life?
     
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  22. Tassie_tiger

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    The spreadsheet has been updated to reflect the changes in v1.34. :)

    Gr's 1, 2, 4, and B remain unchanged.

    Gr.3 - 1 Car Added:
    McLaren F1 GTR
    Gr.3 - 2 Cars Updated:
    Honda NSX
    Renault R.S.01

    It wasn't worth archiving Gr.3 - v1.32, so the sheet has simply been edited.

    And as the stats. do change depending on Tyre type, and with tyre selection options now becoming more common, I've also noted on each sheet that the stats. relate to Racing Hards.


    A few noteworthy points:
    The McLaren makes a big debut with some top and tail stats.
    It's rated as the car with the lightest Weight, highest Max. Speed, and lowest Braking and Cornering.

    And as I've mentioned before, there is some evidence of more than just Power and Weight changes.
    The NSX has gained Power but now is rated to have less Acceleration and less Stability, whereas the Renault has lost Power but has increased in Max. Speed while also losing some Stability.

    It would suggest some Gearbox alterations, along with some other changes influencing Stability.
    I randomly checked 2 other cars to see if their Stability had also dropped (just in case), but no change was found.
    I'll do a few more random checks in the upcoming days. :tup:

    Total number of cars per Group:
    Gr.1: 19
    Gr.2: 6
    Gr.3: 35
    Gr.4: 27
    Gr.B: 10
     
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  23. vvise

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    verrrrry interesting....
     
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    I nominate this for a sticky!
     
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    Brilliant, thanks!!
     
  26. Tassie_tiger

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    A quick heads-up to say the Porsche 962 has been added to the Gr.1 sheet for v1.38 :tup:

    Gr's 2, 3, 4, and B remain unchanged.

    Gr.1 - 1 Car Added:
    Porsche 962 C '88

    Gr.1's sheet for v1.29 has been archived, if only due to the length of time between Gr.1 BoP changes.


    There's not much to mention about the 962.
    Comparing it to the R92CP, XJR-9, and C9, it has less BHP but also less weight.
    This means the 962 slightly wins that Power/Weight ratio race.
    The only other thing of mention is that it joins just 2 other cars, the LM55 and XJR-9, as being rated with a 10.0 for Max. Speed.


    Total number of cars per Group:
    Gr.1: 20
    Gr.2: 6
    Gr.3: 35
    Gr.4: 27
    Gr.B: 10


    As always, the link for the spreadsheet is in the first post. :cheers:
     
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  27. Tassie_tiger

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    Hi all. :)

    We have an unusual update to the spreadsheet.
    Unusual in the fact that it isn't due to a notification from PD regarding changes to BoP.
    As it stands, there have been no changes to Power or Weight to any of the cars I've just checked since v1.38 (except for 1 very strange case)
    But ... some of the other ratings for many cars have changed nonetheless.

    For now I have concentrated on the Gr.1 and Gr.3 cars, as they are currently being used in Sport Mode events, and have checked all cars in both categories.
    I will check the Gr.2, Gr.4, and Gr.B cars in the next few days.

    So, what has been found?

    Gr.1:
    We have 5 standout cars.
    The Peugeot 908 has had a Power and Torque increase. I can find no notification of this happening, and to my knowledge it has always had the same figures since release. Mystery.
    The Hyundai 2025 and the Porsche 962 are completely unchanged.
    The Alpine VGT now has lower Max. Speed and Cornering.
    And the Audi R18 '11 now has lower Cornering.

    All cars, except for the two unchanged cars mentioned above, have a lower Stability rating.
    The majority have dropped by 0.1
    But the Mazda LM55 and the Nissan GT-R have dropped by 0.2, and the Peugeot L750 has dropped by 0.3


    Gr.3:
    Mixed bag with 14 of the 35 cars unchanged.
    And that makes for a long list of changes, with most being a 0.1 change, but I guess we can roll with it.
    So ... Here we go:
    Alfa 4C down in Max. Speed and Stability.
    BMW M6's down in Max. Speed and Cornering.
    BMW Z4 down in Max. Speed and Stability.
    Citroen GT down in Accel. and Stability.
    Dodge Viper down in Stability.
    Hyundai Genesis down 0.2 in Max. Speed.
    Jaguar F-Type down in Max. Speed and Stability.
    Lambo Huracan down in Max. Speed and Braking.
    Lexus RC'16 down in Max. Speed.
    Lexus RC'17 up in Accel. and Stability.
    Mazda Atenza down in Max. Speed.
    McLaren 650 down in Max. Speed and up in Stability.
    McLaren F1 down 0.3 in Max. Speed.
    Mercedes AMG GT3 up in Max. Speed but down in Stability.
    Porsche 911 down in Max. Speed, Cornering, and down 0.2 Stability.
    Renault RS01 down in Max. Speed.
    Subaru WRX down in Stability.
    Toyota FT-1 down in Accel., and down 0.2 in Max. Speed and Stability.
    Toyota Supra down 0.2 in Stability.
    Volkswagen Bettle down in Accel. and Stability.

    I guess the standouts are the RC'17 which got a buff, the F1 which lost 0.3 Max. Speed, and the 911 and FT-1 who both dropped ratings in 3 categories.

    Do with all that info. what you will. :lol:
     
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  28. Hasnain282

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    Was half a second slower in the Lambo today compared to yesterday at Interlagos so I guess that might explain some of it
     
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  29. Lazybike

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    Blimey...someone at PD must really dislike the Z4!
     
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  30. Dimitri

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    Lambo and Ferrari gr3 seem much less twitchy, perhaps they changed setups in line with the new physics model? Or maybe I’m just dreaming.
     
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