Instead of doing memeber war talk about the game and not about me but i understand that you are triggered because i said that FH it's not in the same category as GT...
lmao, no. I'm simply pointing out that you've done this, for literal years by this point, and certainly for as long as I have been a member here. The second Forza in any regard gets mentioned, the batsignal gets thrown up for you to be the series' white knight, like as if Kaz is paying you for your service. Newsflash, Kaz doesn't know you nor gives a ****.
And for your information just go and see my comment history to understand that I do not defend PD always
Debatable, especially within this thread.
and in any case unlike you that by seeing your comment history your only objective in the GT forums is only to shovel **** on the game and how bad and lazy PD are
I don't think PD are doing a good job in many things, things that they obviously should have worked on long ago, but haven't because they're too focused on salvaging their pride in doing things wholly in house, and their way. A way, in my opinion, is the wrong direction. And I'm not going to mince words considering that's not who I am.
You're free to disagree, but I'm also free to say that I know your schtick, and it's old. Everyone knows it, yet even when called out for it, multiple times and over years by this point, you deflect. You deflect like a mirror. This isn't 2011 anymore. Kaz doesn't care about your GT warrior ways. Nobody does, and it makes you look like an absolute moron.
(while in the forza forums you are attacking everyone who criticizes some aspect of the game and you are telling me that im the fanboy lol)...
When you deal with such people as 'FH5 winning an award at E3 means Playground greased some palms', of course I'm gonna call a spade a spade. And you forget that I haven't even bothered to post in the sub forum half the time considering I bounced off hard on FH4, and am willing to call it out on its faults (and have, on multiple occasions)...much like how I found GT Sport to be an unmitigated disaster, and PCARS 3 to be a game with good ideas, torpedo'd by a headstrong developer with more power then he probably should have.
I'm willing to take shots on my favorites when need be. Unlike you, evidently.
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The basis of this entire pissing match is, if we're going to really drag the endless Forza vs. GT debates again, we can agree that both series are going about cross-gen very differently. By this point, Forza Horizon is the market leader in terms of mass market interest, with both car people and those who wouldn't touch a racing game unless it was Mario Kart or Burnout being interested, and Microsoft know this. That's why they're throwing FH5 onto Game Pass, Xbox, PC, and now Steam. At least here the idea of making the game cross gen makes some sort of sense, business-wise, considering it's likely that the next Forza Motorsport game will be the torch bearer for the next iteration of Forzatech, which will undoubtedly be next-gen only, and is typical considering Turn 10 has always been lead when it comes to big picture items in the Forza series like the engine. It's better to cast as wide a net as possible with the last game you're able to get out with regards to the console generations. Couple that with a large install base considering Microsoft's efforts to make the Xbox brand a much more holistic and freestyle name then simply the latest Xbox console that you
have to buy in order to experience what it has to offer, and it makes at least some sense what Microsoft, and specifically Playground, are doing with FH5.
What makes GT7's move to cross-gen so frustrating, is that there is ultimately very little benefit business wise to catering to the last generation of hardware considering how more often then not, one can very easily and safely take the over with regards to GT games and development time. What are the chances that GT7 launches in late 2022, or even early 2023? By that point, why the hell are you shackling yourself to the system like its a sunk cost fallacy? All it does is limit the scope of how a game can be made when you're still expected to develop for a long in the tooth system for no other reason then some blinkered belief that there will still be a market in a year and a half, two years time even?
If anything, it reminds me on a grander scale of Persona 5, the original game, releasing on PS4...and also limping onto stores was the PS3 version. Then again, Persona 5, while stylish wasn't exactly that graphically intensive on PS4, it looked silly to have a game release on last gen hardware years after the last system was viable, even taking into account Atlus and P-Studio's habits of releasing Persona games (or at least, mainline ones, though Royal certainly adds to that trend) at the end of a system's lifespan. Here...I can very easily see the post-mortem interviews from Kaz saying that they were handcuffed by developing for lower level hardware instead of being able to develop for exclusively next gen. Well, maybe you should have pushed back against your bosses at Playstation considering the fact that you take three or four years to develop a game to begin with.
I would have preferred to have had FH5 be next-gen only, but I'm willing to accept it because Microsoft and Playground is a lot smarter with regards to business then I am, and they seem to know what they're doing with regards to making cross-gen specifically with FH5 work. With GT7, I can very clearly see the problems that the game will run up against when it actually releases, and it could have been prevented if they had just focused on next gen only. And if I can see that at this stage in the game, how much you wanna bet Polyphony and Kaz can see even more of the big picture as they are developing the game?
. Doesn't really sound like an important memory to hold on to, at the very least, so that's probably why.
