Gran Turismo 7 Custom Race thread

[Voodoovaj]

Has Reggie changed? Had a quick go in custom races I'd set up before and it feels different.

Could be a PP thing....

The physics has been updated. More sliding around.

 

[Voodoovaj]

HUGE DROP FOR US!!!!!!!

It looks like every car released since last Spring has been added to Sophy. Notice the upper left says "compatible with Sophy" just in case there is doubt.

EVERYTHING as far a I can tell. Time for full F1 grids with 3500A and B!! Power pack cars! Suzuki Carry and Honda One racing...this is a HUGE update for the custom race crowd!!

BTW, I updated the race manager with sorting for the season editing pages and an update to the history page. Download the files from my github (like in signature)


EDIT - WARNING - Boost Weak has changed. You may want to revise your races. Also, Sophy works worse than before the update on some cars. I did a Suzuki Carry race, and they ignore their hard tires. I put mine on the stock CM tires, and it was still a cakewalk. The most difficult setting was NO boost. I did an F1 race, and Boost Weak was still the most competitive setting, so it is no longer a set it and forget it type of thing. Strong boost was also affected. With the Carry, the strong boost let me pass the entire field at Interlagos within the first lap (almost by the fourth turn). There will be disappointment.

 

[jesse100190]

i was in 19th 40 seconds behind at one point during the opening lap took the lead near the s curve on late 2nd lap and never looked back. the wang was hard to turn on a wet course.

 

[suomi1]

I did a quick test at Le Mans with Hypercars (where rubberbanding strikes the most) to jauge if something beyond the newly added cars was different.

First of all, the tyre bug is still present. Cars only use their default tyres unless if fitted with Racing Hard tyres.


- AI laptimes -
Boost off / player last : 3:43.450
Boost off / player first : 3:35.087

Boost weak / player last : 3:39.791
Boost weak / player first : 3:25.679 (I was slowing them down)

Boost strong / player last : 3:51.040
Boost strong / player first : 3:27.289

Boost weak + Rabbit / player last : 3:39.761
Boost weak + Rabbit / player "first" : 3:38.801 (1s improvement mostly due to less fuel in the tank)

Nothing changed here, Boost weak stays the best answer to rubberbanding when using a rabbit. You just have to accept to crawl along like a LMP2... At first glance, the hybrid system's battery seems to stay full despite a fairly slow pace, but I haven't tested it over a long distance.

 

[05XR8]

PD sure did make this a tough update. I’ve got to run multiple set ups of the same car to see what fit. Wide body with or without aero, wide body w/wide or skinny tyres, wide body slammed or skinny body with or without aero, Camber -5F/-4R, soft damper compression, hard damper expansion… the cars feel good though. Reggie seems to be responding good, but still not at full throttle. However, a three car test at Tsukuba with SOPHY in the 22B and Integra, just left me for dead. Good stuff.

 

[Jack_10_9_8_7]

Has anyone figured out how ‘championship’ damage works yet? From a quick test I had some front bumper damage from a hard hit that stayed for at least a lap? Might it be to do with the force of a collision?

 

[Manasseh257NSX]

First of all, the tyre bug is still present. Cars only use their default tyres unless if fitted with Racing Hard tyres.

I hate that the tire bug is still there. Feel like Sophy and Reggie would handle certain cars better if equipped with the tires that we put on the car.

 

[Theufcveteran]

Has anyone figured out how ‘championship’ damage works yet? From a quick test I had some front bumper damage from a hard hit that stayed for at least a lap? Might it be to do with the force of a collision?

I did a tiny test and it gave me front bumper damage with very little contact. I like it so far.

 

[alanoh]

has sophy been acting really weird for anyone after this update? i had a gt300 inspired grid doing 2:12-2:14 laps on suzuka, but after this update several cars fell to 2:20+, with one even dropping to 2:41 (skyline r31). upon watching the replay, i found that the ai was being extremely conservative, almost slowing down to a halt for every corner

 

[Theufcveteran]

has sophy been acting really weird for anyone after this update? i had a gt300 inspired grid doing 2:12-2:14 laps on suzuka, but after this update several cars fell to 2:20+, with one even dropping to 2:41 (skyline r31). upon watching the replay, i found that the ai was being extremely conservative, almost slowing down to a halt for every corner

Sophy might not be trained with the new physics yet. You would think they'd cover that before updating the physics, though.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Wish we had got some more compatible tracks too, but all of the new cars is acceptable. 😄 Now I can do another 2.4 hours of LeMans race, but add the new hypercars. Since I will be in a GT3 car, they will essentially be the rabbit (multiple rabbits...) so it should be good. Need to start doing some testing.

Did a 20 lap race last night at Road Atlanta with GT3 cars and it was pretty good. Lost a couple spots off the start but over 15 laps or so I picked them off one at a time while fending off a challenge from another car that was moving forward with me. Ended up P6 I think.

Since that was the last thing I did in the game, going to run another right now to see how it goes with all of the changes. Will report back...

Edit: Did a 10 lap race and spent the whole race fighting in the 14th to 16th range. This was with all the AI cars manually set at the old BOP settings. Then did another 10 lapper with the new BOP turned on and made my way up through the field to 6th. Also noticed the AI cars were slower in a few places than they were with BOP set manually. 🤔

Side note, Sophy is a SUPER late braker now. Good luck out braking them into the corners.

 

[suomi1]

As for me, I’m going to hold off a bit before diving deeper into creating new car lineups for Custom Race mode ; probably until the next update or hotfix. They tend to roll back certain changes, and I don’t want to waste any time on it for nothing.

 

[Sinyster]

has sophy been acting really weird for anyone after this update? i had a gt300 inspired grid doing 2:12-2:14 laps on suzuka, but after this update several cars fell to 2:20+, with one even dropping to 2:41 (skyline r31). upon watching the replay, i found that the ai was being extremely conservative, almost slowing down to a halt for every corner

only weird instance I have noticed myself so far was when I was doing a GT4 themed (game, not class) at Le Mans, and while every car was working fine, for some reason my 190E DTM replica car would constantly slow down to a crawl at the chicanes, Mulsanne corner, and so on. I'm unsure if it's the car settings themselves causing Sophy to be cautious, because it sure wasn't the problem prior to the update. I'll test it later on with the stock car, and the DTM replica again by themselves, to see if the issue happens again, and then I'll test again with new settings on the DTM car to see if that changes anything as well. Gotta make sure if it's the settings or the car itself being a problem.

 

[Voodoovaj]

Has anyone figured out how ‘championship’ damage works yet? From a quick test I had some front bumper damage from a hard hit that stayed for at least a lap? Might it be to do with the force of a collision?

You pretty much got it there. The in game prompt says that it's pretty much like "light" but the time to heal, and the severity of the effect, changes based on the severity of the impact.

Personally, I like heavy damage. It causes unpredictability.

BTW, for those who want multi-class racing, I added that to my race manager (link in signature). On the edit season screen, scroll to the bottom and select multi-class for the race type. That will allow you to divide the grid into "top" class and "bottom" class, then you do whatever you want. That will qualify the cars separately and track them as two different championships.

Btw, I tested it last night with hypercars and the newest Gr3 cars, and it worked really well. The lower class stayed together and the competition didn't fall apart. I have not tested over long distances. Personally, I am not bothered by the post pitstop boost - I think it's a minor price to pay for an engaging experience.

 

[Stephan]

Soon as I saw the Caterham, I knew I had to do a track toy race featuring its fellow compatriots.

Might do another one where they're equally balanced but during this race, the Mono was the top car among its class.

 

[Voodoovaj]

Now that the power pack cars are available with Sophy, there's more possibilities

This pic was from Reggie at CGV, but I made another and it works great. IMHO, sketchy handling cars make for the best Sophy racing. My favourite, the Abarth Cup, is SO much better with this update.

Note that brake balance effect has also changed this update.

 

[Manasseh257NSX]

Something I observed today with Sophy AI. Some of the cars in last place drive HORRENDOUSLY off pace. Similar to that of how the power pack Sophy "filler" drivers do. (I.e. brake well before the normal braking points, slow down meters away from the apex, they essentially baby the car and fall farther and farther behind each lap)

I'm not sure how this is determined but I think the 2 lowest PP cars are just deemed the weakest link. Makes me wonder if the Sophy in Custom Races are utilizing the Sophy 3.0 in the power pack now or if the new physics model is just making them finicky. Will do more testing cause this definitely wasn't the case before the update.

 

[Voodoovaj]

Something I observed today with Sophy AI. Some of the cars in last place drive HORRENDOUSLY off pace. Similar to that of how the power pack Sophy "filler" drivers do. (I.e. brake well before the normal braking points, slow down meters away from the apex, they essentially baby the car and fall farther and farther behind each lap)

I'm not sure how this is determined but I think the 2 lowest PP cars are just deemed the weakest link. Makes me wonder if the Sophy in Custom Races are utilizing the Sophy 3.0 in the power pack now or if the new physics model is just making them finicky. Will do more testing cause this definitely wasn't the case before the update.

It's quite literally the last two cars all the time. If you have a field full of the same cars, the last two will be slow.

It doesn't matter which car or at what point in the race, the last two cars are slow, especially the very last one. This is why I like heavy damage, it forces cars to change position.

 

[jesse100190]

having to deal with the yellow flag portion of Fisherman's ranch tonight for 7 laps which is on the upper part of the track after the sector with a the jump.

 

[RSF_5]

Would be interesting to know why some cars aren't Sophy compatible anymore after the update. Hope they'll add them again in the near future (GT86, Focus RS, BRZ, latest Civic) ...

 

[05XR8]

Something I observed today with Sophy AI. Some of the cars in last place drive HORRENDOUSLY off pace. Similar to that of how the power pack Sophy "filler" drivers do. (I.e. brake well before the normal braking points, slow down meters away from the apex, they essentially baby the car and fall farther and farther behind each lap)

I'm not sure how this is determined but I think the 2 lowest PP cars are just deemed the weakest link. Makes me wonder if the Sophy in Custom Races are utilizing the Sophy 3.0 in the power pack now or if the new physics model is just making them finicky. Will do more testing cause this definitely wasn't the case before the update.

Depends on Reggie. Maybe it’s because the Civics( PP 602-603) in the grid are just above the PP 600.X of the other cars(the Lancers are slightly higher than the Chasers and Mark IIs). I guess the Civic is like a soft rabbit of the bunch. The cars down the grid weren’t left behind all race though. I gained P1 on lap 3 of the 4 lap race and the conga line was still close. A couple cars passed each other for position.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Would be interesting to know why some cars aren't Sophy compatible anymore after the update. Hope they'll add them again in the near future (GT86, Focus RS, BRZ, latest Civic) ...

Yeah I was using the GT-R safety car for the rabbit in my GLTC series, and after the update I can't use it anymore. 🥲

 

[alanoh]

only weird instance I have noticed myself so far was when I was doing a GT4 themed (game, not class) at Le Mans, and while every car was working fine, for some reason my 190E DTM replica car would constantly slow down to a crawl at the chicanes, Mulsanne corner, and so on. I'm unsure if it's the car settings themselves causing Sophy to be cautious, because it sure wasn't the problem prior to the update. I'll test it later on with the stock car, and the DTM replica again by themselves, to see if the issue happens again, and then I'll test again with new settings on the DTM car to see if that changes anything as well. Gotta make sure if it's the settings or the car itself being a problem.

yeah that's been my experience too, they slow down so much around the corners, and it feels like i'm racing gt5 b-spec drivers when the temper bar is on the far left, possibly even worse than that