Gran Turismo 7 July 1.61 Update Prediction

[TPGRacing75]

Don’t get me started about TCR or any kind of FF touring car that has to be added or returning to the franchise. We’re lucky to have the Mazda Spirit Racing Mazda3!(y’all can thank me for that one)

Anyway, think I’m going to make another amendment. Turned my PS5P on and this was the first demo image.
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Replacing the Primera 2.0 Te with this Mitsubishi Lancer Turbo. Still a three box four door sedan, but with the requisite drive wheels and engine aspiration for how non-suv cars are added.
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I'd be down for that. GT7 lacks late 70s, early 80s models in general, so this would be a nice addition.

For a guess on my part, from the 3 rumored categories:

"Modern" Sports Car from brand with little recent representation:
-Mclaren 720S - Of the brands with little representation AND haven't appeared in any recent updates, I'd go with the McLaren train. Brands like Skoda, DS and Volvo don't really have suitable cars, while RUF has gotten a new toy as of somewhat recent, likely nothing from Infiniti, and I don't think a modern TVR Griffith is on the cards either. This isn't Mercedes either as they got the W196 a few updates ago so that rules them out as does BMW who got the Z4. The reason I'm not saying the Xiaomi is that would count as a "new brand" rather than an existing one that has been neglected.

Compact Crossover SUV:
-Nissan Qashqai - PD Pulled a fast one on us with the Peugeot, but I still think this is a likely option. I'm not well versed in crossovers outside of what we have on US streets(which tend to sit on the larger side, disqualifying them.) A Ford Puma wouldn't surprise me, though PD could do the funny and add the Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross instead.

"Quirky" car:
-Subaru 360 - Now this one's a shot in the dark, as "quirky" encompasses anything and everything not mainstream. We are not due for another American car, so that rules them out, and considering the progress on the Fiat Panda seen 2 months ago, and PD's average 9 months from start to finish car development timeline, I think it will be a late fall addition at the earliest. Without much I can find to narrow it down to, I decided to think, "kei car," and considering PD always seems to add at least one historic car in an update, I decided to hitch my horse to the Subaru 360 train. It would be a historic vehicle that fits in with the other low power "peoples cars" in the game. This is the one I'm least confident about, it could be anything really, you never know with PD.

 

[M Stark]

You sound like a Redditor.

Oof. Calling someone the R word is pretty harsh.

 

[ShonnDaylee]

Oof. Calling someone the R word is pretty harsh.

Also, such an early 2000's insult...lol

 

[MoonDog]

Discuss. We know from a reliable source (@TheAdmiester) no datamine cars next update.

Modern Sports Car
Chevy Impala SS, I know, it's a stretch.

Crossover/SUV
Saleen XP8 Ford Explorer

Quirky
VW Thing

No track, no swaps, 3 scapes, no Sophy adds.

 

[05XR8]

That’s a twenty year old stretch for sure. Those joints are dirt cheap.

 

[MoonDog]

That’s a twenty year old stretch for sure. Those joints are dirt cheap.
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I'm sorry, I didn't mention the year.
1994-1996 Chevy Impala SS

 

[Famine]

Aaaaanyway, here's some stats, and some tl;dr bullets for you:

112 cars in 30 updates = 3.7 cars per update. However three-car updates are by far the most common, occurring 19 times.

Average makeup is 2.9 road cars, 0.7 race cars, and 0.1 pre-tuned cars. That makes three road/one race the average, modified to two road/one race for a three-car update.

Every update has had at least one road car (1.17 being an arguable case for no road cars, as the Ford '32 Roadster is a "Road Car" but clearly ought to be a Tuned Car; it's a ). Only four updates (1.15, 1.17, 1.32, 1.38) have had more non-road cars than road cars, the last of which was one road (Honda Civic Type R), one race (Mazda 3 Gr.4), one tuned (RCR Civic), as was the first. That could either mean you should expect more road cars than the others combined, or - at once every less-than-eight updates and now 14 updates since the last time - another example of 1-1-1.

There's no discernable pattern with race cars. Six updates with a race car have been followed by an update without one, but eleven have been followed by another - making two successive race car updates about twice as common. However five of the last seven updates with a race car have been followed by an update with no race car, making it now more than twice as common an occurrence. Multi-race car updates are rare - three in total (1.17, 1.32, 1.49) - but it has been a while since the last, seven updates ago.

We've only ever had four pre-tuned cars (Roadster Shop Rampage, Greening Maverick, Garage RCR Civic, NISMO 400R; again, excluding the Ford Roadster) and we're currently in the longest spell without one (13 updates, beating the run of 10 from 1.17-1.32). That's either the norm or we're overdue one. Where it's going to come from is a big question though as the only existing tuner "brands" are Amuse, NISMO, and RE Amemiya, so it's either those, a new tuner brand (Mine's?), or a SEMA one-off. Some tuner cars are integrated in the main brand though (Civic TC, Roadster TC, the three Toyotas).

• In pure likelihood terms, three road cars is what you should expect. One road/one race/one tuned probably has a good case, but it's far less likely. After that... maybe one road/two race, or two road/one tuned, but we're at long odds for either.

For origins, it's 1.6 Asia, 1.6 Europe, 0.5 Americas. I've previously mentioned the (1)-0-0-0-(1) pattern for American cars, wherein there are three updates with no American cars between two updates with at least one, occurring four times so far (one was 3-0-0-0-1). We're at 1-0 for the last two updates, so let's go 0 again!

That leaves a 50:50 split of Asian and European cars: 49 apiece. The European contingent has been buoyed by recent updates, with 16 in the last 8 (compared to 13 Asian) and including two previously unprecedented "oops, all Euro" updates in 1.56 and 1.60. Six of 30 updates (one in every five) have had no European cars and, guess what, we've had four Euro updates in a row.

Only three updates have ever had no Asian cars, and there's never been two in a row. The last one was the last one - 1.60 - so we're pretty much guaranteed to see one this time.

• I'd guess at either two Asian/one European or (also occurring twice previously) three Asian cars.

New to the series comfortably outranks returning (and those classed as returning, with different specifications or model years) by more than 2:1 at 2.7 to 1.1. That hints at two all-new/one returning or three all-new. About a third of updates - 8 to 22 - have been exclusively all-new, so it's twice as likely to be 2:1 in raw numbers but four of those have been back-to-backs (1.29/1.31, 1.54/1.55) and all four were more than three cars. The other four were three-car updates but it's more common to see big gaps (1.15-1.38, 1.42-1.57) than small (1.38-1.42).

• Could be three all-new, but two new and one returning seems the most likely scenario

Availability is again clearly in favour of Brand Central. 2.3 cars per update are Brand Central cars (including 0.3 that are BC and Used), with 0.7 each in Used alone and Legends. That favours a two-BC/one-other update.

We've had six updates where all of the cars added were available in BC, and three of those have come in the last seven - with all three also including a BC/U car: Lancer Evo 8, Kangoo, Corvette C5. The last time BC was outnumbered by either other store was 1.48 (three Used-exclusives), but it has happened another six times - mainly in the early days with Legends cars (1.17-1.20).

• Most probably it's going to be two-BC and one Used, but three-BC with one that can also be Used is also good odds.

Recent updates have also been inexpensive. We've not had an update where all the cars combined exceeded 1m credits in the last four, and the previous one was only above it because the F3500-A cost 1m credits by itself.


As for precise guesses, bearing in mine no datamined cars, recent trends of sporty/oddball/everyday, and filling in generational gaps/bringing old cars back...

• Mazda MX-5 (NB) 1.8 1998 - Road/Asia/Used/Returning/Sporty: Fills in a generational gap and returns. It's more of a surprised that this isn't in the game yet, really. Same with the NC really (which could be a BC/U car depending on age).
  • Alternatively, given the rest of the list and the fact that this isn't really a high-enough performance car to offset them even compared to 1.56's Z4, maybe the DC5 Integra (BC/U) or an Evo 7?
• MINI Countryman Cooper S 2023 - Road/Europe/New/All-New/Everyday: I'd say Qashqai after they went and 2008ed us after we all said Qashqai last time, but I don't want to. Besides, GT has had a Countryman before... remember? Was also tempted to say FIAT 600, given the impending Panda.
• Toyota Copen GR Sport 2019 - Road/Asia/New/All-New/Oddball: Asia, new, and oddball screams "KEI CAR!". I'm not feeling a new brand (1.46 and 1.48 gave us three), so an all-new kei car from an existing brand gets us here. To a Daihatsu that's tuned by and badged as a Toyota. Alternatively the Daihatsu Tanto FunCross as it's been a while since we had any Daihatsu, but the Copen is more likely.

No further questions.

 

[T4UR14N]

Nismo ZTune R34
C8 Corvette ZR1
Lexus IS500

If we get lucky an score a 5 car update
E46 M3 CSL
911 992 GT3

they are or at some point where in the brand dealer showcase, plus at the end of movie they had a few cars they “scanned” ztune was one of them 🤞🏽


the bmw & the porsche i saw on kaz’s twitter account @ gt world series

track:
Tokyo R246

swaps:
the new CUVs will probably get some love, lamborghini & ferrari haven’t had any in awhile

 

[PSN offapple]

C9 Corvette ZR1

There's a whatnow?

 

[Famine]

C9 Corvette ZR1

at the end of movie they had a few cars they “scanned” ztune was one of them 🤞🏽

It was a Mines V-Spec Nur...

All The Cars in the Gran Turismo Movie (and How Likely They Are to Come to the Game)

It's fair to say that the Gran Turismo movie is pretty much jam-packed full of cars. You wouldn't expect anything else from a film based on a true story about a car-obsessed racing game addict who becomes a professional racing driver. On first viewing there's a good chance you won't necessarily h

www.gtplanet.net

... and that scene wasn't really PD's offices in any case.

the bmw & the porsche i saw on kaz’s twitter account @ gt world series

There were two BMWs there not currently in the game - a currentish M4 and an E46 M3 CSL - and presence at a World Series event is not exactly an indicator of future inclusion:

 

[RaY29rus]

All The Cars in the Gran Turismo Movie (and How Likely They Are to Come to the Game)

It's fair to say that the Gran Turismo movie is pretty much jam-packed full of cars. You wouldn't expect anything else from a film based on a true story about a car-obsessed racing game addict who becomes a professional racing driver. On first viewing there's a good chance you won't necessarily h

www.gtplanet.net

1 year before it appeared, that was definitely a hint! Nissan Ariya for the next October update confirmed.

 

[Scuderia Paul]

It always amazed me why there wasn't a 'Gran Turismo Movie Pack' or update with some of the cars ready for launch with the film. I think any 'normal' studio would have been prepared.

 

[Nakano219]

As for precise guesses, bearing in mine no datamined cars, recent trends of sporty/oddball/everyday, and filling in generational gaps/bringing old cars back...

• Mazda MX-5 (NB) 1.8 1998 - Road/Asia/Used/Returning/Sporty: Fills in a generational gap and returns. It's more of a surprised that this isn't in the game yet, really. Same with the NC really (which could be a BC/U car depending on age).
  • Alternatively, given the rest of the list and the fact that this isn't really a high-enough performance car to offset them even compared to 1.56's Z4, maybe the DC5 Integra (BC/U) or an Evo 7?

The NB and NC (and the RF variant of the ND) were in the datamine. If "there's no datamine cars this month" holds, it's very very unlikely to be an MX-5.

 

[Famine]

The NB and NC (and the RF variant of the ND) were in the datamine. If "there's no datamine cars this month" holds, it's very very unlikely to be an MX-5.

An NB and an NC, sure, but there's loads of them - and both examples in the datamined list are Roadsters, not MX-5s.

Edit: Hmm... 2003 NB Mazdaspeed Miata...

 

[GBalao888]

It always amazed me why there wasn't a 'Gran Turismo Movie Pack' or update with some of the cars ready for launch with the film. I think any 'normal' studio would have been prepared.

Cars such as the BMW M8, Nissan 370Z NISMO and Koenigsegg Gemera would have been added already if that were the case.

 

[tankuroded]

• Toyota Copen GR Sport 2019 - Road/Asia/New/All-New/Oddball: Asia, new, and oddball screams "KEI CAR!". I'm not feeling a new brand (1.46 and 1.48 gave us three), so an all-new kei car from an existing brand gets us here. To a Daihatsu that's tuned by and badged as a Toyota. Alternatively the Daihatsu Tanto FunCross as it's been a while since we had any Daihatsu, but the Copen is more likely.

I actually had the Copen GR Sport as a pick (albeit listed as a Daihatsu) for few months prior assuming TGR GT Cup was going to be still a thing, with it being a featured car.

 

[Scuderia Paul]

Cars such as the BMW M8, Nissan 370Z NISMO and Koenigsegg Gemera would have been added already if that were the case.

That was my point. If it were a Forza movie for example you could be almost certain that there would have been a pack or update to coincide with the launch of the movie.

 

[T4UR14N]

There's a whatnow?

that’s a typo 😆 was supposed to say C8 but i digress 😅

It was a Mines V-Spec Nur...

All The Cars in the Gran Turismo Movie (and How Likely They Are to Come to the Game)

It's fair to say that the Gran Turismo movie is pretty much jam-packed full of cars. You wouldn't expect anything else from a film based on a true story about a car-obsessed racing game addict who becomes a professional racing driver. On first viewing there's a good chance you won't necessarily h

www.gtplanet.net

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... and that scene wasn't really PD's offices in any case.

There were two BMWs there not currently in the game - a currentish M4 and an E46 M3 CSL - and presence at a World Series event is not exactly an indicator of future inclusion:

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that Mines VSpec Nur has the Z Tune Kit front bumper, front fenders & rear fender spats 👀

 

[Famine]

that’s a typo 😆 was supposed to say C8 but i digress 😅


that Mines VSpec Nur has the Z Tune Kit front bumper, front fenders & rear fender spats 👀

It does. That's the Mines demonstrator/press car (which also explains why it was available for the movie's use). You can find the full spec pretty easily.

 

[adam46]

I'll throw up five guesses and hope we get three:
Lexus IS200/Toyota Altezza
Ferrari 355
Hyundai i20N
Pagani Zonda (any, I just need one)
Daihatsu Charade DeTomaso (PLEASE)

 

[RACECAR]

I'll throw up five guesses and hope we get three:
Lexus IS200/Toyota Altezza
Ferrari 355
Hyundai i20N
Pagani Zonda (any, I just need one)
Daihatsu Charade DeTomaso (PLEASE)

Not sure how you can do better then the R already in the game. Maybe the Revolucion?

 

[adam46]

Not sure how you can do better then the R already in the game. Maybe the Revolucion?

I think it's just my tendancy to run custom races based on the GT3/GT4 car list talking. I'd love a road car that either is one of the C12s from back then, or something that can convincingly stand-in.

 

[suomi1]

I'll throw up five guesses and hope we get three:

Daihatsu Charade DeTomaso (PLEASE)

I was stuck for a few seconds on the name of this car..

Daihatsu? Okay, I got this one.
Charade? Yeah I now it, beautiful old track.
De Tomaso? Sure, cool cars!

Never heard of it.
Interesting prediction.

 

[GTvsForza]

My guesses:

• Return: Saleen S7
• Oldie but Goodie: BMW Isetta
• SUV/CUV: Mitsubishi Outlander Sport Ralliart
• Track: Autumn Ring

 

[Gt2344]

MY prediction are:

Crossover: VW TCROSS R-Line 2024 (Crossover obviously)
Sedan: XIAOMI SU7 Ultra (as we know its coming)
Van: Honda N-BOX (idk why but their is a Hiace)

Map: Maybe we have a free roam world, Possibly a Track (I dont think so)

 

[hyperspeed980]

Map: Maybe we have a free roam world

Bold prediction to make with absolutely zero evidence.

 

[Crona08]

Map: Maybe we have a free roam world

Whoever planted the Gran Turismo open world seed into the minds of the community should be cast out of society


Anyway I'm thinking we get 4 cars next update

1. 2022 Honda e (gotta have a car to give whacky aero to am I right)
2. Saleen SR Widebody from gt2 (not sure if it would slot into gr3 or gr4)
3. 1995 VW Jetta A3
4. 1990 Subaru BRAT

 

[05XR8]

I think the free roam thing came about because Kaz thought about making a small area to teach driving.

 

[ShonnDaylee]

Whoever planted the Gran Turismo open world seed into the minds of the community should be cast out of society

I blame Kireth (YouTuber). He had a few videos bangin' on about the possibility of open world racing in GT. No evidence. Not even a good reason. Just a lot of waffle about how he wants GT to have features along the lines of games like Forza Horizon. I've long since unsubscribed.

I think the free roam thing came about because Kaz thought about making a small area to teach driving.

If that's what it was, then people are making a giant leap to open world content.

 

[nathanh1108]

I hope they don't keep adding crossovers.

I get the idea - PD has probably noticed how Gran Turismo helped create a new car culture around Japanese cars in the West, and maybe the idea is to do the same thing with CUVs.

Kids in 1997 learnt how awesome the Nissan Skyline was from Gran Turismo - kids in 2025 can learn how awesome the Honda CR-V is from GT7! Right?

The problem is, there is absolutely no tuning potential, it's slow and lumbering, and even if you could give it tons of horsepower it's always going to be limited by having the aerodynamics of a washing machine on wheels.

No-one is going to fall in love with the Honda CR-V from this game - the only people that it really appeals to are the people who own one in real life or who like the idea of "traffic cars" (why? This isn't a free world game?)...

The truth is, car culture is becoming more and more about the past rather than the present. Things like the Toyota CH-R, the Peugeot 2008, and the Honda CR-V are appliances. They're not made to be fun or engaging to drive. They're made to be efficient and practical. People don't even own their cars outright any more, they rent them on short-term finance deals.

You can see it on car enthusiast websites, increasingly the focus is less on modern cars and more so on celebrating cars from the past. In particular, I've noticed cars that were overlooked when new now get renewed attention and appreciation.

And new car enthusiasts don't buy a crossover to tune or modify, they typically buy a car from the 80s, 90s, or early 00s.

Paradoxically, I think if GT wants to stay relevant and keep fans engaged they have to look backwards. They need to meet the fan base (which is people interested in cars) where they're at, rather than forcing them somewhere they have no interest in going.