Gran Turismo 7 July 1.61 Update Prediction

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nathanh1108
I hope they don't keep adding crossovers.

I get the idea - PD has probably noticed how Gran Turismo helped create a new car culture around Japanese cars in the West, and maybe the idea is to do the same thing with CUVs.

Kids in 1997 learnt how awesome the Nissan Skyline was from Gran Turismo - kids in 2025 can learn how awesome the Honda CR-V is from GT7! Right?

The problem is, there is absolutely no tuning potential, it's slow and lumbering, and even if you could give it tons of horsepower it's always going to be limited by having the aerodynamics of a washing machine on wheels.

No-one is going to fall in love with the Honda CR-V from this game - the only people that it really appeals to are the people who own one in real life or who like the idea of "traffic cars" (why? This isn't a free world game?)...

The truth is, car culture is becoming more and more about the past rather than the present. Things like the Toyota CH-R, the Peugeot 2008, and the Honda CR-V are appliances. They're not made to be fun or engaging to drive. They're made to be efficient and practical. People don't even own their cars outright any more, they rent them on short-term finance deals.

You can see it on car enthusiast websites, increasingly the focus is less on modern cars and more so on celebrating cars from the past. In particular, I've noticed cars that were overlooked when new now get renewed attention and appreciation.

And new car enthusiasts don't buy a crossover to tune or modify, they typically buy a car from the 80s, 90s, or early 00s.

Paradoxically, I think if GT wants to stay relevant and keep fans engaged they have to look backwards. They need to meet the fan base (which is people interested in cars) where they're at, rather than forcing them somewhere they have no interest in going.
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Kazunori Yamauchi on Gran Turismo Fan Expectations, SUVs, Expensive Wheels, Tourist Trophy, and More

Image via Roger Sieber, games.ch Over the holiday period, and to mark Gran Turismo's 25th Anniversary, Polyphony Digital invited Japanese gaming media to a rare tour of its facilities and another opportunity for Kazunori Yamauchi to explain his thoughts of the past, present, and future of the ser
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Yamauchi also reflects on how players — “I don’t think it’s the majority,” he notes — respond to new features such as GT Sophy or new Vision Gran Turismo cars, with requests for their own favorite older vehicles.

“I think it’s because they take it for granted that car culture will continue into the future,” he comments. Noting requests for cars like the Toyota Chaser and Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IV, he states “If you do [only] that, it will probably end, easily. It is not connected to the future at all,” adding “if all you want is old cars that’s fine, but that will never last.”

With that in mind, Yamauchi also reflects on the changing face of motoring today. “The types of cars are changing a lot… In the past, car enthusiasts drove sports cars… Nowadays, car enthusiasts often drive SUVs… I think we have to cover such cars.”

Of course that wouldn’t be too radical a change for Gran Turismo, with cars like the Range Stormer Concept (which became the Sport), Mazda MX-Crossport (which became the CX-7), and Renault Avantime in previous iterations of the game, but perhaps we’ll see more of them in the future.
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And in any case "I hope" is very much the wrong beginning for a post in an update prediction thread - especially when followed by "they don't".

These threads are for predicting what could be in the next update, not wishlists... or wishn'tlists.

Back to the actual predictions, please.
 
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Gonna throw this one out there, that could be for any potential future update...

The return of the BMW 507 '57, and an Extra Menu for BMW convertibles/roadsters:
  • BMW 507 '57
  • BMW Z8 '01
  • BMW Z4 3.0i '03
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Worth noting the 507 has been found in the code, and was a new car in GT6 debuting in premium form.
It seems to be setting itself up for a future Extra Menu quite nicely.

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It also feels like we're due a random classic muscle car of some kind. One I've been thinking about that could also fit the weird & wacky world of Polyphony Digital additions is the return of the Chevrolet El Camino SS 396 '67, another car that made its debut in GT6 as a premium model.

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Part muscle car, part pickup truck. A perfectly odd Polyphony-esque addition.
And although very different from the 2 pickup trucks we already have in GT7, it could make sense for a new World Circuits event to be added to the Pickup Truck Race series alongside the car.
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I'll throw in another car which I feel has a decent chance of arriving sooner or later.

We recently saw Polyphony use the cars from the All Japan GT Car Championship special event in a Sport Mode race. I therefore wouldn't be surprised if other similar events, such as the Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters, also make a Sport Mode appearance in the future.

There is 1 particularly notable car from that Group A era of DTM that isn't currently in the game however: The Audi V8 Quattro.

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Champion in 1990 & 1991, it would likely be added in road car form and then modified using GT Auto parts for racing, just like the BMW M3, Ford Sierra & Mercedes 190E are for that DTM event.
This would also be the first pre-2000 Audi road car in GT7, with the Quattro Pikes Peak being the only other retro Audi we have, and thus it would fill a pretty sizeable gap in the brand's roster.

Here's a great video on the Audi V8 Quattro's time in DTM:
 
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I'll throw in another car which I feel has a decent chance of arriving sooner or later.

We recently saw Polyphony use the cars from the All Japan GT Car Championship special event in a Sport Mode race. I therefore wouldn't be surprised if other similar events, such as the Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters, also make a Sport Mode appearance in the future.

There is 1 particularly notable car from that Group A era of DTM that isn't currently in the game however: The Audi V8 Quattro.

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Champion in 1990 & 1991, it would likely be added in road car form and then modified using GT Auto parts for racing, just like the BMW M3, Ford Sierra & Mercedes 190E are for that DTM event.
This would also be the first pre-2000 Audi road car in GT7, with the Quattro Pikes Peak being the only other retro Audi we have, and thus it would fill a pretty sizeable gap in the brand's roster.

Here's a great video on the Audi V8 Quattro's time in DTM:
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I think that one point in it arriving sooner or later is that DTM field being composed of 18 cars plus you, as if they were preparing to add one more car and then it got delayed along the way. We saw that for these events they broke the usual 3 races rule and then they also used the JGTC field for Race C last week, so I 'd say they could make another weekly based on DTM (although in Race B or with no fuel consumption)
 
IngWeltschmer
I think that one point in it arriving sooner or later is that DTM field being composed of 18 cars plus you, as if they were preparing to add one more car and then it got delayed along the way. We saw that for these events they broke the usual 3 races rule and then they also used the JGTC field for Race C last week, so I 'd say they could make another weekly based on DTM (although in Race B or with no fuel consumption)
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The fourth runs for JGTC and DTM special events appear to be year-end holiday season one-offs.

ShonnDaylee
I blame Kireth (YouTuber). He had a few videos bangin' on about the possibility of open world racing in GT. No evidence. Not even a good reason. Just a lot of waffle about how he wants GT to have features along the lines of games like Forza Horizon. I've long since unsubscribed.

:lol:

If that's what it was, then people are making a giant leap to open world content.
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Kireth's not the only one thinking about the possibility of free roam in GT, by the way...

Though he's rather unique in sense that he's the one (if the only?) Sport Mode/competitive adjacent 'tubers to push for it - most of people I hear wanting a free roam in GT tend to be coming from road car-aligned people.
 
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tankuroded
The fourth runs for JGTC and DTM special events appear to be year-end holiday season one-offs.


Kireth's not the only one thinking about the possibility of free roam in GT, by the way...

Though he's rather unique in sense that he's the one (if the only?) Sport Mode/competitive adjacent 'tubers to push for it - most of people I hear wanting a free roam in GT tend to be coming from road car-aligned people.
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He's obviously not the only one pushing for it. He seems to be the most prominent content creator pushing for it, though. Hence why I said I blame him (somewhat in jest, but you get the point). He has a MUCH bigger following than your average "road car-aligned people". The reality is it isn't just one, or even a few. Games like Forza Horizon, The Crew, Car X, etc... have created a fanbase that mostly want to be in open world settings. There's not anything necessarily wrong with that, but... It's not what GT is about, and I hope it never is. We have plenty of open world titles for people to enjoy, if they are so inclined.
 
PSN offapple
I'll throw in another car which I feel has a decent chance of arriving sooner or later.

We recently saw Polyphony use the cars from the All Japan GT Car Championship special event in a Sport Mode race. I therefore wouldn't be surprised if other similar events, such as the Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters, also make a Sport Mode appearance in the future.

There is 1 particularly notable car from that Group A era of DTM that isn't currently in the game however: The Audi V8 Quattro.

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Champion in 1990 & 1991, it would likely be added in road car form and then modified using GT Auto parts for racing, just like the BMW M3, Ford Sierra & Mercedes 190E are for that DTM event.
This would also be the first pre-2000 Audi road car in GT7, with the Quattro Pikes Peak being the only other retro Audi we have, and thus it would fill a pretty sizeable gap in the brand's roster.

Here's a great video on the Audi V8 Quattro's time in DTM:
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This car did in Germany what the GT-R did in Australia, but, thanks to Gran Turismo, people talk way more about the GT-R. :P

Worth noting that the V8 was a full-size model. It really had no business competing with compact cars like the 3-Series and the 190E. The quattro system leveled the field and then some.

Regarding open world in GT... I can see the GT World menu eventually becoming an open world. But people will be disappointed if they expect Forza Horizon-style of reckless driving IMO. Can't see Kaz doing open world in such a way.
 
It feels like a lot of the recent updates have involved the addition of a SUV/cross-over of some sort, specifically from either Asia or Europe, but I wouldn't rule out an American SUV like the Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk, either.
 
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MIE1992
It feels like a lot of the recent updates have involved the addition of a SUV/cross-over of some sort, specifically from either Asia or Europe, but I wouldn't rule out an American SUV like the Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk, either.
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A trackhawk would provide a much needed high performance rival to the currently very lonely Urus. Think it may be a big too high performance for their current trend of SUVs, as they seem to be very focused on entry level economy runabouts.
 
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MIE1992
It feels like a lot of the recent updates have involved the addition of a SUV/cross-over of some sort, specifically from either Asia or Europe, but I wouldn't rule out an American SUV like the Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk, either.
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I've had that thought too, which is why I feel the Mustang Mach-E might show up at some point as it's both a crossover and electric.
 
Crona08
Whoever planted the Gran Turismo open world seed into the minds of the community should be cast out of society


Anyway I'm thinking we get 4 cars next update

1. 2022 Honda e (gotta have a car to give whacky aero to am I right)
2. Saleen SR Widebody from gt2 (not sure if it would slot into gr3 or gr4)
3. 1995 VW Jetta A3
4. 1990 Subaru BRAT
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IT JUST AN OPIONIN U DONT HAVE TO FOLLOW IT. It just came into my mind from the inspiration of FREE RUN
 
PSN offapple
I'll throw in another car which I feel has a decent chance of arriving sooner or later.

We recently saw Polyphony use the cars from the All Japan GT Car Championship special event in a Sport Mode race. I therefore wouldn't be surprised if other similar events, such as the Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters, also make a Sport Mode appearance in the future.

There is 1 particularly notable car from that Group A era of DTM that isn't currently in the game however: The Audi V8 Quattro.

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Champion in 1990 & 1991, it would likely be added in road car form and then modified using GT Auto parts for racing, just like the BMW M3, Ford Sierra & Mercedes 190E are for that DTM event.
This would also be the first pre-2000 Audi road car in GT7, with the Quattro Pikes Peak being the only other retro Audi we have, and thus it would fill a pretty sizeable gap in the brand's roster.

Here's a great video on the Audi V8 Quattro's time in DTM:
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It’s definitely something PD would do next week since the 190 E just sold out of the LCD. :lol:

Really needs to be in the game. It’s a four-door 4WD sedan. The game have a few of those. ;)
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Audi V8 Quattro (D11) 1991

This will complete the holy trinity of German DTM road cars. Engine: 4.2 V8 280 hp @5800 rpm; 400 nm @4000 rpm Transmission: 6 sp manual 0-100 km/h(62 mph): 6.8 seconds Maximum speed: 249 km/h(155 mph) Length: 4874 mm(192 in.) Weight: 1710kg Tyre/wheel size: 215/60R-15 In 1991 race trim and...
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Here’s an off-the-wall prediction for this month: 2024 Dodge Charger Daytona Scat Pack

It’s a car not in the datamine, “all new never seen before in GT7”, it’ll be in Brand Central America, it’s a 4WD two-door, adds to the lineage of Charger(the ‘68 Charger is about to be sold out in the LCD).
We have a handful of model year 2024 cars and this adds to that list.

Dodge(maybe Stellantis) would want exposure of the Charger EV, a bit of manufacturers pulling back on EVs could have Dodge(maybe Stellantis) wanting to show they still know muscle cars and adding to the current line up in GT7 does that.
Only thing is, the petrol six-cylinder model comes out this year. Might be too soon to add it to the game.
 
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MIE1992
It feels like a lot of the recent updates have involved the addition of a SUV/cross-over of some sort, specifically from either Asia or Europe, but I wouldn't rule out an American SUV like the Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk, either.
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Good observation mate. I'd like to see an American SUV too, but idk if PD will add it for anyone's liking.
 
Nakano219
I think August is a far more likely skipped month than July. This next month between updates is a long five-week month, and July is a month they've been consistent with. I know 2023 was technically an August update, but I look at that more as "July, but a week late" than I do a traditional end-of-month August update, which they've not done since 2022. So, given I'm saying there will be a July update, let's talk predictions:

Tracks are pointless to predict - we'll know one is coming when either PD do something unusual to tease an update, or Kaz writes "big update" in the silhouette post. Absent either of those flags, assume no track.

Cars... we have a framework this month from the tease in the datamine thread. Which to me makes this thread less fun, it's more fun to use tenuous-but-correct logic to try and shoot the moon, but fine, I'll play with the deck we have:
  • Something in the vein of the Vantage and 812 - late 2010s European sports cars from brands that have been lower-priority in prior updates. I can see why the 720S would be a popular guess, but I'm instead going to go for the Lamborghini Aventador S. The thinking here is the the Gallardo and 430 Scuderia were in the same update, so putting this and the 812 close together also makes some sense.
  • Something in the vein of the CX-30 and CR-V - early 2020s Japanese crossovers. PD can't make up their mind which segment of crossovers they want, so I'm going to cheat a little and put two down here. But there's little reason not to play this with a straight bat and pick the most obvious answer, which would be a Nissan Qashqai or Juke.
  • Something quirky - We've had the Unimog, we've had the Carry, I think it's time for an actual pick up truck that can race in the actual pick up truck events. So some kind of Dodge/Ram pick up truck to go with the F-150 and Tundra. I'm not going to pretend I'm knowledgeable enough about these to pick an exact one, unfortunately.
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I've changed my mind on the sporty car after thinking about it - now I'm thinking it'll be the Solus GT.

Still fits the pattern of (very) sporty modern European, it's a car you'd think PD would be all over given its origins, and it was around at Goodwood with McLaren still mentioning it coming from the VGT and GT specifically.
 
Mike Hamilton
Nissan Qashqai: Because last Nissan was added more than half a year ago and because of the crossover/m..family car trend

Xiaomi SU7 Ultra: Because we need one sports car in the update and we know its coming soon.

Another one: No idea what it could be but no kei car, no rally car because of the recent additions. Maybe the Fiat Panda?

No track, no new features.
Sophy for 1-2 more tracks/layouts.
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I would like to change/add to my prediction:
  • No Xiaomi yet as I believe they would have shown in-game model/scenes already last month if it was already ready (like they did with the F3500 F1 car which was then released shortly after first reveal)
  • The SUV could also be one of the following:
  • 2022 Fiat 500X Hybrid
  • 2022 Alfa Romeo Tonale Q4 Plugin Hybrid
  • 2018 Skoda Kamiq
  • 2023 Mitsubishi XForce

All of these can be found in the Brand Central Museum…
 
Nakano219
I've changed my mind on the sporty car after thinking about it - now I'm thinking it'll be the Solus GT.

Still fits the pattern of (very) sporty modern European, it's a car you'd think PD would be all over given its origins, and it was around at Goodwood with McLaren still mentioning it coming from the VGT and GT specifically.
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Well, we'll see what PD chooses this time. Hopefully it will be a couple new European styled cars, I'll have to look at the article again about the next update. I'm interested about what else they'll include in the update.
 
I haven’t seen where we are in the schedule right now. Are we predicting silhouettes this weekend?
 
TurismoValor
I haven’t seen where we are in the schedule right now. Are we predicting silhouettes this weekend?
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Real tough to say.

If there's a July update (and PD has skipped July before), I'd expect it on 24th - so yes, silhouettes this weekend. But the 31st is also possible...
 
Maybe a switch in silhouette presentation. We’ve had the old low resolution style. Then we saw the scanning & sound clip reveals. Now the current high resolution posts.
 
If there was going to be any major supercar/hypercar, there would have been some sort of hints or promotion, am I right? When 812 superfast came, they revealed it pretty early.
 
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Crona08
Whoever planted the Gran Turismo open world seed into the minds of the community should be cast out of society


Anyway I'm thinking we get 4 cars next update

1. 2022 Honda e (gotta have a car to give whacky aero to am I right)
2. Saleen SR Widebody from gt2 (not sure if it would slot into gr3 or gr4)
3. 1995 VW Jetta A3
4. 1990 Subaru BRAT
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That would be in Gr.3 as the late 90s GTS class is pretty much the same as the late 90s GT2 class is basically in between mid 2000s GT1 and Late 90s GT2; later turned into GT1 with cars such as the DBR9 which is in Gr.3. Not to be confused with proper GT1 which was specifically from 1997-1998 with the CLK LM, F1 GTR LT and GT-ONE which are Gr.2
 
Be nicely timed if it is shown this weekend and drops on the 24th as I'm back from a cruise on Friday.
 
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