Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

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I just gotta say, I'm amazed that we now have three officially-licensed F1 cars, and arguably some of the most iconic in the sport's history. I had thought that the general idea was that each installment only can have one F1 car, as we saw with GTS and GT6, with GT5 being more of an anomaly since it had both the Ferrari F2007 and the F10. But now we have the McLaren MP4/4, the Honda RA272, and now the Mercedes-Benz W196 R!

In fact, there seems to be a lot of assumptions I had about GT and car licensing that are being broken in the best way, like how we got the Audi RS5 DTM, or the classic WRC cars from Peugeot, Subaru, and Toyota. Not to mention the return of Volvo!
 
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What I would really like are a few more open sports & super cars.
This is great in VR and...then you get to enjoy the exterior sound mix.
I love the Radical and Bac Mono for this.

718 Spyder RS / 488 Pista Spider / 12 Cylindri Spider / 296 GTS / SF90XX Spider​

 
Have they been like this too since PS1-PS2 era? And for difficulty level, no reason to not put that faster AI in the higher difficulty, like even if the fans don't want hard race they can just lower the difficulty. PD Licenses seem to be brutal for getting gold (and the better prize with that), but I always felt bronze isn't really hard.

About the choices of cars being added like you listed there, GT would still have an outdated car list so what they add doesn't matter much, it doesn't satisfy what people want of an updated car list, and not a dinosaur one GT employs, like latest GT3.
In regards to outdated, majority are, but PD have been adding up to date cars in the R35, GT3 RS, GR Corolla, even Mazda 3 Super Taikyu and such cars no-one saw coming.
Plus, they've been adding nostalgic cars many people have wanted back in the game. So, Kaz has been trying to balance what we get for whatever his reasons are.

I'd love to see updated/current race cars(instead of updated liveries on the same car), I've got nothing of why we don't have a clean sweep of today's race cars.
 
Honestly, there's so many "outdated" cars which would be an awesome addition to the car list, and so few new ones. I would struggle to name even 10 brand new cars which I would absolutely love to see in the game, but can probably name 100 older cars just off the top of my head.
 
I'd love to see updated/current race cars(instead of updated liveries on the same car), I've got nothing of why we don't have a clean sweep of today's race cars.
Looking at the list of real race cars they've added, there seems to be a few categories they are prioritising and that nearly all of them fit neatly into:

  • Modern Super GT/Super Formula cars that they have a good relationship with the promoter (BRZ GT300, SF23s, also the Fraga RC F GT3 if you want to count it)
  • Modern Toyota coming from their good relationship (GR010)
  • Historic race cars that were big name cars in earlier games in the series so have nostalgia (Escudo, Silhouette, GT-One, NSX GT500)
  • Historic F1 cars (MP4/4, RA272, W196)
  • Refreshes of GT3 cars already in the game ('18 GT-R, '20 AMG GT3)
  • Group A rally cars (Celica, Impreza)
  • Pebble Beach winners (AGC53/S)

The only car I can't really fit neatly in a category is the RS5 DTM car. But it's clear there's probably a bit more focus on historic content than there is the cutting edge stuff, it's absolutely undeniable.
 
Not too sure they've succeeded here... can't say I've ever seen a human randomly drop 15 mph like this.


Jumpscared by my own video. Yeah, this is incredibly frustrating because without this stupid script PD puts on the AI to baby the player, Sophy would be so much fun. Even the regular AI has potential as demonstrated by some of the chili pepper races.

A good point was made that it doesn't really make sense to force these mechanics when the player is choosing the highest difficulty possible. And by force, I mean literally. It cannot be turned off even in Custom races because it's a separate thing from Boost.
 
I agree about the jimny, but not as much for 992, sure we have the 992 gt3 rs already, but the turbo s feels a lot different. Dont see the problem have both featured.

Oh sure I didn’t say it was a problem, but it was almost certainly a lot less work for them to put that car in the game than something entirely different
 
In regards to outdated, majority are, but PD have been adding up to date cars in the R35, GT3 RS, GR Corolla, even Mazda 3 Super Taikyu and such cars no-one saw coming.
Plus, they've been adding nostalgic cars many people have wanted back in the game. So, Kaz has been trying to balance what we get for whatever his reasons are.

I'd love to see updated/current race cars(instead of updated liveries on the same car), I've got nothing of why we don't have a clean sweep of today's race cars.
Obviously not that there are no up to date cars being added, just that it'd still be not nearly enough to have GT grow out from an outdated car list. Though for this and below....
Honestly, there's so many "outdated" cars which would be an awesome addition to the car list, and so few new ones. I would struggle to name even 10 brand new cars which I would absolutely love to see in the game, but can probably name 100 older cars just off the top of my head.
I don't understand why it'd be bad to want older cars in the game. It's widely seen as a negative for the game or the player that wants older cars. Always just being dismissed as clinging to nostalgia.
 
Oh sure I didn’t say it was a problem, but it was almost certainly a lot less work for them to put that car in the game than something entirely different

Maybe as physics are concered , but process of scanning the car is still the same as any other car.
 
Obviously not that there are no up to date cars being added, just that it'd still be not nearly enough to have GT grow out from an outdated car list. Though for this and below....

I don't understand why it'd be bad to want older cars in the game. It's widely seen as a negative for the game or the player that wants older cars. Always just being dismissed as clinging to nostalgia.
That was part of a reason Kaz gave about being careful of adding nostalgic cars.

Looking to the Future of Car Culture​

Yamauchi also reflects on how players — “I don’t think it’s the majority,” he notes — respond to new features such as GT Sophy or new Vision Gran Turismo cars, with requests for their own favorite older vehicles.

“I think it’s because they take it for granted that car culture will continue into the future,” he comments. Noting requests for cars like the Toyota Chaser and Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IV, he states “If you do [only] that, it will probably end, easily. It is not connected to the future at all,” adding “if all you want is old cars that’s fine, but that will never last.”


With that in mind, Yamauchi also reflects on the changing face of motoring today. “The types of cars are changing a lot… In the past, car enthusiasts drove sports cars… Nowadays, car enthusiasts often drive SUVs… I think we have to cover such cars.”

Of course that wouldn’t be too radical a change for Gran Turismo, with cars like the Range Stormer Concept (which became the Sport), Mazda MX-Crossport (which became the CX-7), and Renault Avantime in previous iterations of the game, but perhaps we’ll see more of them in the future.
 
Emojis .........the Sophie thing when racing......is this to attract a younger audience ? under 7`s maybe ? ...........Id have preferred the time & effort spent on this aspect to have been to create a more realistic response to on-track events maybe in the sound dept, crowd cheers / jeers / boos / oohs & aahhs etc .......in the rare occurrence i pass someone on track i wanna CHEER !
 
Emojis .........the Sophie thing when racing......is this to attract a younger audience ? under 7`s maybe ? ...........Id have preferred the time & effort spent on this aspect to have been to create a more realistic response to on-track events maybe in the sound dept, crowd cheers / jeers / boos / oohs & aahhs etc .......in the rare occurrence i pass someone on track i wanna CHEER !
🧐 😜 🙃 :cheers::gtplanet:
 
That was part of a reason Kaz gave about being careful of adding nostalgic cars.

Kaz has no credibility in what he says or claims. Anything about what's coming from his mouth can be dismissed.
 
Kaz has no credibility in what he says or claims. Anything about what's coming from his mouth can be dismissed.
he should enter politics
 
GT Mode only depends if they can get Sophy right for actual AI challenge other than chase the rabbit.

B-Spec depends on it too.
 
I agree about the jimny, but not as much for 992, sure we have the 992 gt3 rs already, but the turbo s feels a lot different. Dont see the problem have both featured.

The new Jimny is actually quite a solid addition, the wheel base is nicely more spread out, especially with wide wheels, and the K engine swap murders 550pp events.
 
GT Mode only depends if they can get Sophy right for actual AI challenge other than chase the rabbit.

B-Spec depends on it too.
I'm sure Sophy has the power to completely change the AI, if executed properly. PD probably wants to make the integration as beginner friendly as the current system to as challenging as the Lewis Hamilton time trials, while being able to adapt to it's own environment to be used in B Spec. There's always a lot going on behind the scenes it's just unfortunate we don't get as many opportunities to ask questions surrounding major announcements.

Maybe @Jordan could sneak in an interview during the world finals to get a better look into the progression of GT7s lifespan.
 
I'm sure Sophy has the power to completely change the AI, if executed properly. PD probably wants to make the integration as beginner friendly as the current system to as challenging as the Lewis Hamilton time trials, while being able to adapt to it's own environment to be used in B Spec. There's always a lot going on behind the scenes it's just unfortunate we don't get as many opportunities to ask questions surrounding major announcements.

Maybe @Jordan could sneak in an interview during the world finals to get a better look into the progression of GT7s lifespan.
Many'd seem to view that even if the GT Mode has huge amount of events like GT4, it'd be for naught if you're only racing terrible AI with chase the rabbit for 'challenge' most of the time. So I'd view Sophy as what'd save GT Mode if executed properly.

Best case scenario is similar GT comeback like car sound and customization.

Difficulty adjustment (and a wider range than just Easy/Normal/Hard) should allow players to both have the beginner friendly one and the hardcore unbeatable ones. Don't want for Sophy to be nerfed for that beginner friendly stuff.
 
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FFB on Formula cars is still like on bicycle 😐 I'm wondering is PD even aware of this issue...
Doing the Red Bulls at Nordschleife and the steering/FFB is so light on my Fanatec, it's horrible. Is it meant to feel that way? Hardly any resistance when turning the wheel.
 
Ah so that's the mystery prize (and the collab Hyundai talked about months ago).
 
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