Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

[Doncarlone]

The selling price of this car was so good*

Its often remembered for the grind, but in the track it was a beast.

 

[hyperspeed980]

Why would the first car from a specific era and market in a specific segment even matter anyway? That’s an oddly specific measure of quality content.

I'd argue that if GT wants to truly serve as a comprehensive collection of automotive history and culture, it needs to cover as many niche eras and car types as possible - and yes, that includes the ugly bits that people generally don't like.

A pretty egregious example of this currently not being the case is that fact that we don't have a single American car built between 1979 and 1988, and even worse, none built between 1990 and 2002. And no, I don't count the Cosworths - those are European to the core.

 

[Nakano219]

I'd argue that if GT wants to truly serve as a comprehensive collection of automotive history and culture, it needs to cover as many niche eras and car types as possible - and yes, that includes the ugly bits that people generally don't like.

A pretty egregious example of this currently not being the case is that fact that we don't have a single American car built between 1979 and 1988, and even worse, none built between 1990 and 2002. And no, I don't count the Cosworths - those are European to the core.

It's not just America either - the roster kind of trails off a lot in general in the mid-1970s after the Kenmeri Skyline and doesn't pick up again until about 1984-5.

I get it, that timespan was not the best time for the automotive industry for sure. But it's a notable gap.

 

[05XR8]

That's a lot of personal opinions. If you try to be objective about it, this update broadens the scope of the car selection more than most.

The F1 car is a totally unique new option, licensed or not (generic formula cars are a staple of the series, but the pros and cons of that are an entirely different topic).

The Civic is pretty unique in being the first 80s JDM compact car in the game, unless I'm forgetting something.

The Toyota is of course not an interesting car in itself, but it fills the gap of "current everyday road cars" which this GT has very few of. The fact it's a crossover is a reflection of the times, like it or not.

The Hyundai is in a somewhat similar category - if you don't like EVs that's fine, but it's not Gran Turismos fault that they are relevant nowadays.

I’d say the AE86s are compact cars. Edit: That was answered already.

Edit:
About no American cars from 1979-1988. That’s where the IROC-Z Concept would fit as a returning car. Any fox-body Mustang and I guess any Chrysler offering from Dodge Omni GLH-S to Shelby Charger GLHS.

 

[TPGRacing75]

It's not just America either - the roster kind of trails off a lot in general in the mid-1970s after the Kenmeri Skyline and doesn't pick up again until about 1984-5.

I get it, that timespan was not the best time for the automotive industry for sure. But it's a notable gap.

Yeah, the non-supercar mid-late70s/early 80s and non-japanese 90's eras are heavily underrepresented in current GT7 which I'd like to see filled, even if it's something non-sporting like a Chevrolet Astro or Dodge Caravan.

Personally while I have my car preferences, and cross-overs and EVs are not exactly my style, give me 3-4 of anything with a similar performance window and I'll be more than willing to create a custom race class for them.

Heck of it were not for the draconian restrictions on EVs in custom race, I'd be all for making my own "Gr.E" category

 

[OldandSlow]

I’d say the AE86s are compact cars. Edit: That was answered already.

Edit:
About no American cars from 1979-1988. That’s where the IROC-Z Concept would fit as a returning car. Any fox-body Mustang and I guess any Chrysler offering from Dodge Omni GLH-S to Shelby Charger GLHS.

And the Chevy Citation, too. They had a performance model of that, too.

 

[05XR8]

And the Chevy Citation, too. They had a performance model of that, too.

Remember the Beretta GT-U and Cavalier Z24? At the moment, the only car I could see PD adding is the GNX from the datamine.

 

[Vitesh Patel]

I think PlayStation really needs Polyphony Digital to be releasing GT8 before the PS6 arrives.

We're in a place where we don't know what a lot of the other first party studios are working on, and if they do, whether they'll land before the inevitable PS6.

With the cancellation of so many of their live service games, Sony could do with a title that's guaranteed to sell at least 10 million copies to start to make up for the loss of all the cancelled stuff.

I just hope they're really making an effort with career/Gran Turismo mode...

 

[Fernandoz]

None of that is relevant to your "FOMO" claim, which I was refuting. I don't really care about any of this post-rationalisation.

Weekly Fomo events, legendary dealership...LITERALLY aspect of 'missing out'

 

[Lomic]

Weekly Fomo events, legendary dealership...LITERALLY aspect of 'missing out'

Missing what ? A car that will come back for sure in a few weeks ? The feature is annoying but it is not FOMO.

 

[GBalao888]

Missing what ? A car that will come back for sure in a few weeks ? The feature is annoying but it is not FOMO.

I mean, it technically is as you have a time-limited window of about a week to ten days to buy the car in question before it is removed from rotation. Should you have enough money, but the car is sold out by then, it will sting, and will take a while before it returns. Chances like these come back every once in a while, so if you snooze, you lose.

And while yes, it will come back eventually, there's no way to predict when the car will return to these dealerships.

I hope one day there is an update that makes the Used and Legend Car dealerships have all cars available in their lineup where it's just like Brand Central, with an option to buy them new and on demand (e.g. with zero mileage and being able to select the car's default colors/liveries), with an option to buy them used like with the current systems.

That way the difference between the dealerships in the game would be down to the era of cars represented: Brand Central for modern cars from within 2001-present, Used Cars for older, but more common vehicles, and Legend Cars for the iconic and famous classics.

 

[Lomic]

I mean, it technically is as you have a time-limited window of about a week to ten days to buy the car in question

But it returns regularly, so you don't have to FOMO and you have time to get the credits (which can be long). I'd prefer those cars to be available at every time but if I can't buy it this week, I have time to plan to get the credits until it comes back.

 

[CTRL Garage]

@Lomic it's best to ignore this person, they praise a game with worse FOMO mechanics

 

[Lomic]

@Lomic it's best to ignore this person, they praise a game with worse FOMO mechanics

I know, but sometimes I can't resist 😅

 

[Famine]

Weekly Fomo events

Are 80% drawn from existing races, the other one is a custom race anyone can set up at any time, and they don't give any unique rewards that you'll otherwise miss out on.

legendary dealership...

Can't be a FOMO mechanic if (to a high level of certainty) you know it's coming back.

The only FOMO mechanic left in GT7 in its current state is Invitations. Which suck.

Do you play the game at all?

Like... at all. All your information about it seems second-hand and a couple of years out of date at best.

And while yes, it will come back eventually, there's no way to predict when the car will return to these dealerships.

Except that there is. They're just in a rotation (well... two rotations; the three trophy cars are in a more frequent cycle) and save the rare occasion where PD shuffles it slightly or buggers it up entirely (like the Escudo) it's all fairly predictable, and people have been making rarely incorrect (but sometimes out by five days) lists of upcoming cars for almost three years.

They've even started (as of about a year ago) making it even more frequent with additional "Special Picks" slots for cars featuring in upcoming events - usually the "Weekly Fomo" ones. These don't change the main rotation either.

 

[RACECAR]

Weekly Fomo events, legendary dealership...LITERALLY aspect of 'missing out'

You actually intend on making an actual argument or are you just gonna continue with this busted record player act you keep putting on?

 

[Ande3200]

Its not gt7 worst update. But the choises is quite bad. Instead of the Toyota their could be something like BMW m5 any gen, Ferrari 812 superfast, mclaren 765lt or any Audi rs models. And the update even with just 4 cars would feel less lackluster.the varity is not great here.

Sometimes pd have very strange choises.

 

[GlamFM]

Its not gt7 worst update. But the choises is quite bad. Instead of the Toyota their could be something like BMW m5 any gen, Ferrari 812 superfast, mclaren 765lt or any Audi rs models. And the update even with just 4 cars would feel less lackluster.the varity is not great here.

Sometimes pd have very strange choises.

A 90s F1 car
A brand new EV
A late 80s hatchback
A modern Daily driver

"variety is not great here"

 

[sparkytooth]

A 90s F1 car
A brand new EV
A late 80s hatchback
A modern Daily driver

"variety is not great here"

Its only good variety if it has 4 700hp midengined supercars

 

[GTP_reddevil]

I feel the older Civic coming (not 100% confirmed I know unless it has been confirmed of which fair enough) will make those recreating older style touring car custom races will like this option.

Looking forward to the F-3500A definitely. For those questioning “variety”, this upcoming update contains probably one of the most in terms of “variety” as each car are completely different in terms of what type of car and time period.

 

[mastretta_mx]

Its not gt7 worst update. But the choises is quite bad. Instead of the Toyota their could be something like BMW m5 any gen, Ferrari 812 superfast, mclaren 765lt or any Audi rs models. And the update even with just 4 cars would feel less lackluster.the varity is not great here.

Sometimes pd have very strange choises.

Why should be always super cars or GT3 cars?? There are literally a dozen of racing games/sims with that content, if GT has been different ll these years us because of variety and let people play/drive/race with regular cars and affordable sport vehicles🤷‍♂️

 

[PSN offapple]

Variety is good, as it means there's a higher chance for there to be something for everyone. That makes sense for the amount of cars we typically get per update now.

However it's also fun to occasionally have an update with a set/main theme. Thinking back to when we had 3 Group C cars paired with Le Mans in a GT Sport update, although there were also other cars too.

Maybe the upcoming update is a bit like that on a smaller scale, if say there was a new F1 circuit to be paired with the F3500-A. The previous circuit Eiger Nordwand was half a year ago, but I guess we'll find out in a few days if there's something new.

 

[Ande3200]

Why should be always super cars or GT3 cars?? There are literally a dozen of racing games/sims with that content, if GT has been different ll these years us because of variety and let people play/drive/race with regular cars and affordable sport vehicles🤷‍♂️

Gt7 has been out for almost 3 years and there is still not a single BMW m5 model. No Audi rs models. No it dosent have to be just super cars. But more varity would be great.

 

[GlamFM]

Gt7 has been out for almost 3 years and there is still not a single BMW m5 model. No Audi rs models. No it dosent have to be just super cars. But more varity would be great.

If GT has anything it's variety. Putting a M5 in there would't bring more variety - putting in a tractor would.

Just use a different word to say you really want a M5 man.

 

[JC_Dude]

Why should be always super cars or GT3 cars?? There are literally a dozen of racing games/sims with that content, if GT has been different ll these years us because of variety and let people play/drive/race with regular cars and affordable sport vehicles🤷‍♂️

For a game quite heavily focused on pushing the competitive aspect it's rather embarrassing just how out-of-date most Gr. 1, 2, 3 and 4 lineups are. Aside from the VGTs, the newest Gr. 1 and 3 cars are from 2021 and the newest Gr. 2 and 4 are from 2019. Several manufacturers' lineups are multiple generations out-of-date.

 

[Chris30]

Gt7 has been out for almost 3 years and there is still not a single BMW m5 model. No Audi rs models. No it dosent have to be just super cars. But more varity would be great.

I'd like to see a BMW m5 model too, it's so weird they have plenty other type models, like m3 and m4. And they even have a BMW m6 Group 3 car. PD should enhance a little variety for each manufacturer at least.

 

[Ande3200]

If GT has anything it's variety. Putting a M5 in there would't bring more variety - putting in a tractor would.

Just use a different word to say you really want a M5 man.

But you have to admit not having a single BMW m5 model or Audi rs model is beyond strange.

 

[GlamFM]

But you have to admit not having a single BMW m5 model or Audi rs model is beyond strange.

I'd like to have them in the game as well for sure. But I don't find it stranger than any other car not being in the game.

 

[GTP_reddevil]

But you have to admit not having a single BMW m5 model or Audi rs model is beyond strange.

In fairness, PD aren’t obligated to add these cars into the game ever despite them being heavily requested. I’d love to see them in the game but that’s mainly up to PD…

 

[Ande3200]

In fairness, PD aren’t obligated to add these cars into the game ever despite them being heavily requested. I’d love to see them in the game but that’s mainly up to PD…

I know its their game. And they make the calls.
But they then have to deal with people complain about it.